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Andrew Garfield | SmartLess

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Andrew Garfield joins Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett on SmartLess to promote The Magic Faraway Tree and The Uprising, and to talk about his Sam Altman role in Artificial. The conversation covers his childhood in gymnastics and swimming, his path into acting, his father's influence, his thoughts on grief, and his love for theater and quiet time.

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Opening and Boat Trip Banter

0:04Are they actually going to talk? How long do they actually [ __ ] talk for? Hey everybody. Um, this is Andrew Garfield [music] and I am this week's guest on a podcast [music] that uh we can all debate whether it needs to exist, but um I'm waiting here um as most guests have to do [music] and I didn't realize how long you have to [ __ ] wait.
0:28But uh at some point [music] in the near future, I will be talking to the guys who do Smartless. It's a Welcome to Smileless. >> Smart L smart. [music]
0:54>> Jay, how was the boat ride? >> Yeah. Um Jeff, >> the world wants to know respond publicly. >> How is the boat ride? [laughter] >> They were there were so And then I guess I was saying I think Schumer posted like a bunch of photos. Amy Schumer, not Chuck. Um although Chuck Schumer's threatening to post some photos of you, too.
1:16[laughter] I don't know what that's regarded. >> Yeah, there were many, many, many, many pictures um being taken. Um, [sighs and gasps] it was it was nice. What do you mean? I mean, it was like incredibly >> You not It was nice. You're in the middle of directing. You got a little time off and it was nice to get a time time off.
1:34>> Yeah, but it was I these are all high class problems, you know? I I just You can't really relax cuz I'm not I'm not done. I got to leave in freaking 48 hours to go back to Iceland for a week of shooting and another 11 hour flight and another 9h hour time change or more. Like it's just my body is like, "Dude, what are you doing?"
1:56>> Right. >> Chill. >> Right. Listen, again, I hate to go back to it, but according to the shots off the back of the boat, your body looks like it can handle just about anything. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Speaking of which, uh Willie, I saw some nice shots of you. Uh you had your own little European boating vacation, eating grapes with that hard body of yours.
2:18Christ, [laughter] everything. And Shnie, I saw you. You posted a picture of you and Scotty Scott. Uh just they keeping it real up the up the up the north coast of California. >> Yeah. In the Malib in the Malibu. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, Will calls will FaceTime me working out with no shirt on.
2:38Just regular conversation. >> Hey, what's going on? Doing dumbbells. I'm like, what? Can you Do you want to wait or do you want to talk now? No. I got to get it in. I got to get it in. >> No, no. And then you went No, no, no. The phone call. Do you want to wait on that? >> No, cuz I want to I thought about it.
2:52I as soon as I lifted a dumbbell, I was like, "Oh, Sean." You know what I mean? [laughter] >> I got to call joke. >> Yeah, >> it's a good It's I was going to say it's victimless, but it's not entirely victimless. But, you know, I got this. So, by the way, uh I went a couple of weeks ago because it's been a minute since we've all been together.
3:12I went did this thing with our pal uh Dave Letterman, who we all adore up in Montreal. >> Oh, yeah. I saw the pictures of that. That looked rad. Yeah, it was super fun. It was super fun. And we all adore him and and revere him and just Yeah. the best. And and >> Sean, he he started we spent I told you this, but we spent maybe 12 minutes talking about Shawn.

Dave Letterman and Sean Jokes

3:31Uh Jay, you got like 30 seconds like a passing glance. >> What? >> Yeah. [laughter] But Sean got and he's like >> that's when you lost the audience. >> He's like, "What about the the thing that you get that you um Sean takes a lot of hits on the podcast." >> Yeah. >> Which we've discussed before. And I'm like I said I said Dave Shawn and I have had this conversation.
3:50If I didn't make fun of Shawn, he'd think that I was mad at him. >> Totally. We've had this conversation a million times here. >> And then I told him the story JB of when we went to see Shawn opening night of Hello Oscar at the Tabasco [laughter] Theater and he said, "Talk about a show. >> Hello Oscar."
4:09>> And and how you know we joke around and blah blah blah. And then Sean gives this performance and Jason turns around. I'm sitting right behind Jason. He's got tears in his eyes and he says, "He's ruined the podcast." >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Respect him too much now. We can't make fun of him. >> We can't make fun of him.
4:24He's too good. And I told that story to sort of whatever couple thousand people in this theater with Dave. >> Uh and uh I said, "So, just so you know, we all are in awe of what Sean does." >> That's very nice. >> Pull it off, Sean. Take it. We We've talked about this ad nauseium, but I appreciate it.
4:43We talked about with Dave and Dave has your back. Dave loves you. >> I love Dave, too. He walked in, he saw Good Night Oscar in London. He walked in. I go, "Do you want a sandwich or something?" [laughter] And he's like, and he goes, he goes, "I have diabetes." So, I was like, "Oh, shit." I had no idea.
4:59And I'm making fun of his weight. >> Wait, truly he had he does or no? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, no way. >> Yeah. And then Scotty were like Scotty and were like, "Look, I got the p the pod on my shoulder." He's like, "Me, too." too. And they were like, you know, >> speaking of Scotty, what about that article I sent you yesterday?
5:14>> The the crisis going on in the gay community now with people who who love bears. Like the problem with GLP1s now that the bears bears skinny bears. >> They're going extinct. [laughter] >> We got to protect the bears. >> Well, the the skinny bears are called otter, you know. Now [clears throat] they're they're otter.
5:31Yeah. >> Oh my god. [laughter] >> Yeah. Now they're turning into [snorts] otter. If you see a bear, don't shoot. You know, I mean, we got to keep [laughter] >> unless it's going well. >> We got to keep >> um >> unless he asks for it. [laughter] >> All right. Anyway, well, so much other stuff to talk about, but we should probably get to it so much.
5:54>> Is this yours today, Shnie? >> This is mine. You guys are going to be so excited. >> Really, >> Jay? What if we were like, "No, it's yours." >> No, [laughter] that's happened before. I think >> I know it has. You fumble through your notes. Uh guys, my guest today was born in Los Angeles and raised outside of London.
6:09>> Oh, I've got it. >> Who? >> No. >> Uh >> he was a competitive gymnast. How about that? >> No. >> And a swimmer as a kid, but quit gymnastics after his 200B Russian coach sat on his back during the splits and he thought, quote, "This is not a childhood." He worked at Starbucks until they fired him for sitting down too much.
6:28His mom made him a Spider-Man costume for Halloween when he was three. years later, he got paid to wear one in three movies. It's the uber talented and very charming Andrew Garfield. >> Wow. >> Andrew Garfield, >> Garfield, I was just talking about you the other day. We've never met. Nice to meet you.
6:48>> Were you saying nice things about him? I was I was showing off I I I there's a photo of you that came up on Instagram or something and you were wearing and because I was I find myself defending some of the stuff that I wear and you were wearing a phenomenal zip up from Allesie which I own a different one and I get a lot of [ __ ] for and I was like look at Andrew Garfield.
7:08This dude is [laughter] cool. He looks so good and he's wearing an Allessie zip up so shut [laughter] it. >> Was it like a vintage one? >> Yeah, it looks so good. You know the one I'm talking about. It's so good. >> Yes, I do. Yeah. >> Were you wearing the high shorts, too? >> No, I wasn't wearing the high I can't pull off shorts generally, but particularly not high shorts.
7:26[laughter] >> You got to be careful. >> It's really nice to be with you guys. I really love you guys. I love this show so much. And yeah, Will, we haven't met. I know I know Jason a bit. Sean, I don't think we've met ever either, but I feel like we should have because we're of the theater. >> Yeah. Yeah.
7:41Yeah. We will. We will. We'll do something. >> Thanks for [clears throat] having me. Oh. Um, [laughter] I felt like my intro was a bit ominous. I felt you guys got so sad at like the Russian guy sitting on my back [laughter] and like like so painful. >> The the list of losses of my life as >> I mean when I read that that made me laugh so hard when you're like when you as a child you go this is not a [laughter] childhood I have to leave.
8:05>> I was 13 with a very large Russian guy. Yeah. On me. And and Will, I'm I'm such a huge fan of yours as well. I'm I'm just a a fan of all of you and I'm so I'm I'm a little overwhelmed to be >> right back at you. Where where are you? You're in a hotel room somewhere. What are you doing? >> You assume this is a hotel room, but I designed my house to feel like as familiar [laughter] as a hotel room was.
8:30>> That was a little bit of a fauxar early on there, Jason. But um I No, this is it's the the Crosby Street Hotel, room 601 if anyone's interested. [laughter] >> Wow. Wow. If this is live. >> Wow. Doors unlocked. Ass up. Doors open. [laughter] >> By the way, I really like I I hope you guys keep in all of the very platonic homoerotic intro that you guys It was like the most homoerotic you guys have gone in a while.
8:54I feel like >> it's been a minute. It's been a minute. It'll It's coming. There's more coming. >> But [laughter] it's it's it's a service you guys are providing, I think, for men around uh around the world. Sean, you just reminded me of my buddy, speaking of homoeroticism, my buddy who was on one of these these dating sites, the uh not Grinder, but a different one that's even more just immediate hookup thing.
9:17>> Yeah. Yeah. >> And and he got on and the guy sent him a picture of himself with his butt in the air uh [laughter] winking winking and he just wrote howdy. [laughter] And my buddy's like no >> howdy. Swipe [laughter] >> swipe. >> Um all right. So, if you're in New York, you are promoting something.
9:37What are you promoting? >> Um, right now I'm promoting a family film called The Magic Far Away Tree, which is an Enid Blightton book that was made into a film by Simon Faraby, who made the wrote the Paddington movies. >> But I'm also something very different I'm promoting is a Paul Greengrass movie called The Uprising, which is about the peasants revolt in the 1300s and has a slightly different um tone to it.

Promoting Magic Faraway Tree and Uprising

10:03>> Holy [ __ ] Oh, the [laughter] uprising. Yeah, >> I read a few I read a few Enid Blightton books and as a kid I [laughter] don't remember any uh peasant uprisings. >> Yeah. Wait, that sounds like a very uncomfortable shoot. [laughter] A peasant a peasant war film. I'm not imagining a lot of luxury on that one.
10:24Walk us walk us through the pain. >> Jason's just [laughter] thinking at the end when you wrap you are you going to shower in the trailer? You don't want to use the water in the trailer. So now you got to do the ride back to the hotel with the guy with the >> fabrics. Oh, this [ __ ] [laughter] Yeah, stinky stinky fabrics.
10:39>> Chuck Schumer is definitely not waiting for me on a yacht in [laughter] any kind of port at the end of a shoot day. >> Where did you shoot that? >> We were in Munich. We were in Munich. Uh we were shooting cuz there's a lot of medieval architecture still in in in Germany, weirdly. So we were shooting around.
10:56We're mostly in a one field in in Munich that was being doubled for a lot of different >> peasants fields in Munich. It was mis it was miserable but in that way of the best possible misery. >> Yeah. >> And you guys love Paul's movies and you know Captain Phillips and the Born movies and News of the World.
11:15He's just like an incredible filmmaker. >> Yeah. >> And he's one of those team captains that kind of makes you want to suffer for him. You know what I mean? Where it's like, "Oh, no. I want to suffer as much as possible for this man because he's gonna >> because he's driving." Yeah. >> I was going to say, Jason, would you say that Woody and Sam are saying that they're suffering for you right now?
11:37[laughter] Is that a fair assessment of what they're going through? >> Yeah. I They're just trying to keep me awake, you know. >> But he's Yeah. Paul [clears throat] Greengrass is does seem like one of those guys who it's it's a allin venture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it was an amazing and it's a really good group of actors as well.
11:55It's um Tom Hollander who's incredible and Jamie Bell and Cosmo Jarvis, Katherine Watston, Steven Delane, like a kind of murderer row of great British actors and it's like a proper ensemble and he's and it's like this historical drama but he's shooting it like like he shoots which is all handheld. You're in the action.
12:15you're kind of viscerally with the characters and uh it's powerful and it's like it it goes like a like a freight train. It's like a very like fast-paced historical drama. >> Can I can I can I just say another sort of can I just you mentioned Steven Dellay and I've said this before >> this is one of the most underrated actors of our time.
12:35Steven Delane >> 100%. [clears throat] >> He's an incredible actor. >> Where would I know him from? >> I mean a million. He's >> Yeah, I I'd know his face if I saw him. 100%. Oh yeah, 100%. He's breathtakingly incredible, right, Andrew? Am I right about that? >> Yeah. No, he's one of He is one of the greats.
12:52And it's it's one of those careers where you're like, >> oh man, that would that's kind of the dream where Jason Baitman doesn't exactly know who I am. [laughter] >> Do you know where it's like, oh, it's like he knows that I'm great, but he doesn't know anything about me or my personal life. >> Oh, yeah.
13:10>> But he would definitely cast me in a really D E L D I [laughter] >> D I L L A N E. >> He uh Jay, you know your wife loves him. Um layb breaking. Uh and uh he was in that he was in the English version of uh when they did the bridge that that Swedish Danish show and they made it called the tunnel. It was a UK French GoPro.
13:37>> I like saying GoPro. It makes me sound like I know what I'm talking about >> for sure. And [laughter] uh I remember talking about him with Amanda and just both of us just going like this guy is inc. I mean he's amazing. >> Did you did you find him Jay? >> The tunnel the TV series. Yeah cuz your spelling on Dellay.
13:53>> How much more time do we have? >> No it's it's like Dale Pickle. >> Guys welcome Steven Delane. [laughter] >> Here he is. I've got >> Andrew. [laughter] How good is your Steven Delane impression? >> There he is. Oh no. No, I'm not much of a fan of this guy. No. [laughter]
14:16[laughter] >> Could you imagine after all that? >> See, guys, I had to make it worth it. [laughter] >> Um, no, he's a rock star. >> I see. I see what you're saying. Yes. Yes. This is a guy you see him in any project, you're like, "Oh, we're in good hands here." >> Yeah. [clears throat] He's amazing. Well, but you know, I was going to wait till the end to talk about this, Andrew, but since we're talking about projects, >> we are at the end now [laughter] that Steven delay in Google search.
14:42>> Exactly. No, but two projects I thought are really, really cool. One is by a friend of mine called Wild Things. Will you play Roy of Sig Freed and Roy? >> John Hoffman. Are you friends with John? >> Yeah, John Hoffman. Yep. And love John Hoffman. He's the best. >> Oh, wow. Yeah. You just finished working with Jude.
14:58>> Yeah, we just did um >> you play Sig Freed and Roy, which is awesome. Yeah, it's um I'm excited about it. It's it's as you imagine and more it's like more is more is more is more with those two, you know, with the the the gay German magicians in the desert and with the tigers and the lions and >> it's that old story, >> that old classic tale, that old myth that has been [laughter] told time and again.
15:24>> Um but [ __ ] hell, these guys were truly not Well, the guy I play was truly insane. Roy Horn. He was the tiger magician, but literally believed and was convinced and maybe truly did have some spiritual connection >> to his tigers to animals generally. >> Did you use real? >> No, no, no. We're not legally allowed to to do that.
15:47I did feed a tiger with my hand. >> Yeah. I don't know. That's pretty. >> But did you didn't was was one of them mald forgive me. >> Yeah, of course. Yeah. No, you're forgiven. You're forgiven. We don't say mold. >> We don't say mold, though, will. We say there was an incident. There was a thing that happened.
16:07There was an event. >> Was it your character that had the event? >> Yeah. Roy. Roy. Yeah. >> The guy The guy who had the the guy who had the magical connection. >> Jason. Jason. [laughter] Jason. Jason. >> Jason. He ate his face off or something. >> Oh, Sean. >> Oh, [laughter] sorry. I just read I just read that he ate his face off.
16:27>> Eating new myths. No, there was there was an incident. So, what's remarkable about it is I don't know I of course I'm defending him because I feel like I am his representative on this earth. He so 40 years he worked with these animals and there was no incident with him ever. And there was one night in 2003 where the tiger went tiger and um decided for whatever reason that night that he he was going to bite down on his um master's neck and drag him to his cage.
16:58And there's lots of different um kind of theories about why the t how do you a tiger is a tiger. How can you you know you have no idea. But >> there are lots of theories and the and one of the things that the show explores is why on this particular night >> did things go wild. Um but he survived it. His face is intact.
17:17Um and uh but he then he died during co he like he like recovered. He did lots of rehab. He kind of they got back on stage with the Tigers. They were savages. They were like just these incredible kind of like gay German warrior magicians. They were like some of the strongest. Roy particularly was this kind of I don't know monster.
17:39He was an amazing amazing man. >> Wow. >> Oh, I can't wait to see that. >> Wait, but Andrew, you're also playing and then by the way, then we'll be done because you have 18 other projects which is really exciting. But you're playing artificial. You play Sam Alman >> in a movie. >> Was he on the yacht with you, Jason?
17:52Was he on Was Sam on the yacht? >> He was on a boat nearby. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> So for Tracy, Sam Alman created Chat GPT. He created OpenAI. And that's really cool, man. I mean, that's going to be a really great story. >> That's the uh uh Luca Guanho. >> You got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm nervous about that one.

Playing Sam Altman in Artificial

18:12I'm really scared about about that one. >> What about the about the about the backlash? >> Well, yeah. I mean, like you're playing one of arguably >> You guys take a point of view on it. >> I mean, one I I hope we've taken a point of view on it and it will be, you know, seen and people will have their own opinions about it.
18:29But yeah, I mean like I playing one of the arguably the most powerful people on this planet right now or interpretation of whoever this person I have no idea. I've never met Samman. I don't know any anything about the interior of his soul. I just had to do some you know I had to interpret what I what I understood what I saw what I read what I >> you know I don't know what my imagination gave me what the script gave me but it's like he could definitely he probably has hacked my phone and he
18:59probably is >> observing every move I make >> does the does the film take a position that uh this is something either ominous or something that is positive or um what what what what what cuz >> I think it focuses on him getting kind of ousted from the company and then back into Right. >> Yeah, that's part of it.
19:20I I think um I would I would hesitate to to kind of preamble to be I kind of want people to >> to watch it and to and to find their their position. I I hope we're not villainizing anyone or making anyone into a hero or a I hope it's you know what Lucas films do. He gets into the gray area of what it is to be human obviously.
19:44So >> don't you think it's wild you were part you're gonna be part of that and you're part of the other kind of big you know tech movement with with the social network which you were great in and um do you want to tell Will and Jason or do you want me to tell Will and Jason what a woman once >> don't tell Jason >> what what a woman once tweeted about your laptop smashing scene.

Social Network Laptop Scene Jokes

20:04>> I'm happy for you to share this. >> Okay. I mean, I it's it's something like she wanted you to >> she wanted you to smash your laptop on her tits or something. >> Oh, because she Wow, I gotta rewatch that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is that it? >> Hang on. Let me pull that up real quick. [laughter] >> I mean, we know how fast you are at Google.
20:26So, >> my dialup service is not what it was. >> Wait, she she tweeted that she want Yeah, she tweeted that she wanted to smash her. Then she was serious. And then you met her. >> I met her. >> No way. Yeah. She showed up at a she showed up at a Q&A. >> Um and she she was holding a sign saying, "I'm the one that that wants you to smash a laptop on my tits."
20:49>> Wow. Did she And [laughter] did she ask a question? Did she ask a question at this TNA Q&A? >> Uhhuh. Nice. >> Nice. Nice guys. It's low low hanging fruit [laughter] still fruit. Low hanging fruit is still fruit. >> And we will be right back. And now back to the show. >> Um, so wait, so that is a particularly now Social Network's one of my favorite movies.
21:13I don't recall the a particularly memorable level of hotness while you're destroying a laptop. Was there Did you do it in like a hot way? >> It was sub I guess it's subjective and I guess it's not it's not something that you're into, Jason, and that's okay. >> Was your top off or something when you did it?
21:32[laughter] No, it was just full of the the a powerful like justice seeking. There was like Fer didn't say Fer wasn't like, "Hey, you're going to smash left. Hey, let's go tarps off on this one, huh?" Hey, [laughter] Garfield, you're going to go tarps off on this. E, can you get your nips hard real quick?
21:51>> Yeah, let's roll. Let's roll. E, >> can we get some ice for Andre? [laughter] >> Yeah, let's roll. E, let's get this fired up here. Let's go. Tarps off on Garfield on one. >> Tarps off. There's no way that you that David Fincher would have been as successfully as he is if he was Canadian. There's [laughter] no way.
22:07There's no way. I'm realizing that in real time. >> Wait, what? [laughter] But Jason, have you not seen the outtake of Andrew doing And I'm not even kidding. How many takes and how many laptops did you smash? >> No, I haven't. >> Um I I I think it I don't know. 30 40 I don't know. It was >> 30 laptops smashed.
22:25>> 30 laptops. Yeah. Yeah. You those rage rooms? Has you ever done like a rage room where you get like a baseball bat and you get given a bunch of [ __ ] to smash up? >> No. Wait, where are those? >> You have it, Dude. >> No, I mean I know of it. I have never. [laughter] >> I want to smash up. >> It's a Yeah, it's a great It's a It's a place that you can >> So, would you like Andrew to come over and you have a couple laptops that need smashing up, don't [laughter] you?
22:48>> And I have tips. >> Their hard drives in hard drives need to be erased. >> Um, all right. But you but you you did a family film that you're promoting now. Um, and what do you uh what you got? Do you got do you got any uh any any little Oh, wait. I've gotten into trouble asking this before. I was going to ask you if you have any kids.

Family Films and Parenthood Talk

23:04Am I allowed to ask that? >> How dare you? >> Yeah. Honestly, [laughter] how could you? What are you going to ask next? My age. What is What is this? I didn't think [laughter] I was coming on the Patriarchy podcast. I um The Handmaid's Tail [ __ ] [laughter] um >> My bad. I apologize. Um, I'm 42 and I'm childless and I'm not entirely proud of that.
23:27Like, I would love I would love to have kids. I would love to start a family. It's just not >> You offered that. I didn't ask that. Um, >> well, you told us you kind of did. [laughter] You kind But so, but because usually you hear about folks doing a family film because, well, you know, I do stuff my kids can't see and so I want to finally do a movie that my kids can see.
23:47That's that's usually the the the story you hear. >> Sounds just like, >> right? Yeah. >> Um, this you just you love this book. >> Well, no, you know what? I love Simon Faraby. I love those Paddington movies so much and I've been like [clears throat] advocate for I love those films and Simon is just a great heartfelt comedy writer >> and I had wanting I had been wanting to do something a little easier in a way to be honest.
24:13Is that okay to say? Like >> yes. >> I just kind of wanted to have a nice time. Instead of throwing potatoes at peasants and stuff, you want to do something on the sound stage, right? >> I needed a break of from throwing [laughter] potatoes at peasants. Thank you. So, it's the first time I feel really understood, >> Jason.
24:27Um, yeah. No, I uh it was really lovely. It was just a lovely time and um and it's heartfelt and it's about, you know, getting kids back in touch with themselves, with each other, with nature, with their own nature, with the family unit, with community. And you know, it's it's it's not anti-technology, but there's a kind of like a kind of an awareness around how technology may or may not be um screwing things up for us.
24:54And it's just lovely. And I I have nephews and I have godkids. And there was something very sweet about making this film and having >> my friends who have young kids come and and and see it. And it was like the best reviews I've ever had in my life. It was like >> Yeah. honestly will like it was like voice note after voice note after voice note of just raves from the 7 8 9 10 yearear-olds >> that um that I have a connection.
25:19It was honestly like why why have I done anything other than this up until now because this is so much more pleasurable. >> It is I I have had that experience you guys have too. When you do stuff that is more sort of family oriented and whatever the response is is pretty uh rad. And when you meet a kid who's like super into something that you did, it's so much more gratifying.
25:43>> Just watching their minds get blown when they're introduced like like Will, I bet a million times you've done like Lego Batman voice for a [clears throat] young kid and they're like, >> "Oh my god, what? I don't understand." Like their their mind kind of breaks a little bit. >> Yeah. It's And sometimes people, you know, come up to you and you're with your kids and you're getting ice cream out here with my kids or whatever and somebody comes up and wants to say hi.
26:02You're like, "Hey." But when it's a kid who comes up in that way and is and is like a big fan of like as you say like Lego Batman or something it is very gratifying really in a different way. >> Or like when a kid comes up and says I don't know I have no idea who you are. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> When you when you did um you were think they thought you were [laughter] >> right Jason.
26:25>> Yes. [laughter] >> Jason one time burned me the greatest burn that I'm super jealous of. I told this huge story about we were with on stage with Matt Damon and I told this story about Brad Pitt, you know, complimenting this thing and how psyched I was blah blah blah. And I was like gushing like a little kid and Jason paused.
26:43Jason goes, "Who do you think he thought you were [laughter] >> after getting a compliment from Brad Pitt?" >> Yeah. Which was so [laughter] good. I was so jealous of that bird. >> So Andrew, tell me about growing up. You were born in Los Angeles, but how did you then grow up in England? because you were born here.
27:00>> Yeah, my mom my mom was from Essex um from England. They she she met my dad in in London. Um and then yeah, my dad's from LA. It's a longer story, but um we don't have time. >> Yeah, they we don't we don't have time after Steven Delane thing. Um I uh I we [laughter] um we uh yeah, so they they met in London.

Childhood, Gymnastics, and Growing Up

27:20They my dad was from LA. He moved back to LA with her. had me and my brother and we were living in Marina del Rey in the 80s which was not Marina del Rey now. >> And [clears throat] uh my mother was a kind of small town girl from the outskirts of of London now suddenly in the middle of gang warfare in Marina >> delcake factory.
27:45Let's not forget about that. [laughter] >> Is the cheesecake factory been there since ' 83? >> And there was a Jerry's there was a Jerry's deli too. There was a nice Jerry's deli there. Oh, wait. She painted a much more kind of brutal picture of Marina Ray. Are you calling my mother a liar? Is that what you're calling [laughter] my mother a liar?
28:00>> We've heard Jerry. Jason, you panced me once in the in the parking lot of that Jerry St. >> You going to wear sweatpants? You're going to lose them. >> And I was wearing sweatpants. [laughter] We We're going to work. We paused outside the restaurant and then he panced me in the middle. [laughter] >> You're lucky I didn't tip you over afterwards either.
28:15What year was this? When was How old were you? >> This was 2004. We were 34, 35. [laughter] >> We were all hopped up from cake from the Cheesecake [laughter] Factory. >> And you weren't losers. You were like cool guys. >> I don't know. [laughter] Cool guys. >> And then and then you did you when you got into gymnastics.
28:35I was in gymnastics, too. I did the I was good at the pommel horse and like the floor events and stuff. Yeah. >> Pom horse guy. >> Yeah. I I didn't but I didn't stick with it. And I Wait, but Sean, in a pinch, could you do like a backward [laughter] handspring, like a like a flip right now? >> I can do I can do like a round off or cartwheels now at this age, but I couldn't.
28:55But I could do all that stuff when I was younger. Yeah, just for a little bit. >> Andrew, gun to your head right now. Would you be able to do like a halfass floor exercise? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I throw my back out, my knees would be [ __ ] and I'd be >> I'm sorry. Just pay paint me a picture.
29:11What's Why is the gun to the head to do this? What is it? Some [laughter] oligarch. Some oligarch is like I have Andrew Garfield. >> You boy. >> Do something. Get through. [laughter] >> Do it. >> [ __ ] what? How did I end up in this scenario? >> I would I'd lose my head. I would not be able to do much of anything.
29:29I I don't think I'd be able to even do a somersault. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, you could try. >> Yeah. >> Um and then you left gymnastics. Your father became a swimming trick. Then you were swimming. I mean, and then >> but my but so but just I'll finish the thing about so my mom basically was like I'm out.
29:45I'm I'm not I don't want to be here anymore >> in LA. Sorry to go back to that. I felt like there was like a I I have a weird thing where there's a thread undone. I have >> she got tired of the 90 freeway and she wanted >> she got tired of the 90 and she said are you coming? If not don't worry kind of thing.
30:00And my dad was okay [laughter] we we'll we'll go back we'll go back to England. So I was raising and then yeah gymnastics and I love gymnastics. I really did. Like the first time I did like a back handspring or a back somersault, >> I felt like I had unlocked some weird secret code to my body and to like fly.
30:16It felt like flying. It was very very cool. >> And then it became something, you know, you know what happens when you're a kid and you're like good at something >> and you have a father who you know is uh quite a competitive uh animal. Um it it starts to become less fun because suddenly it you know it's either a gold medal or you you know you don't get love.
30:38No, not not literally but like in [laughter] >> I know what you mean. >> The guys are just kind of like laughing at me like >> we're all thinking about our own fathers. [laughter] >> No, I know. >> Um wait, so then uh so then you stopped doing that cuz it got a bit bit too stressful. And how soon after that did you find acting and was he supportive of that?
30:59>> Well, yeah. This is what's this is what's kind of beautiful is that we so I was I was swimming for he was my swimming coach for a while and again that became another thing and I kind of just let everything go when I was a teenager cuz yeah it's like like one of my favorite movie it's like that it's like the Truman show.
31:13It felt like the Truman show. I was like if this is all there is there has to be more. And uh I was being raised in a kind of small small town in the south of England and I didn't have any kind of idea that a life in the arts was a was a life to be had. I thought it would it would leave you destitute and just kind of on heroin.

Finding Acting and Father Relationship

31:32That was the kind of like the horror stories that were being kind of um given to me. And then uh I uh it was my mom. My mom saw how kind of lost I was. And thankfully I was that lost cuz without being lost I wouldn't have found the thing that really set me up for the rest of my life hopefully, which was I I tried I tried painting, I tried music, I tried sculpting and I was fine at them and I enjoyed them.
31:55But then when I did my first acting class and I did my first play, which was I played Fat Sam and Bugsy Malone at my local community theater >> and it was one of my favorite movies. The Alan Parker movie is one of my favorite movies of all time >> and I felt a kind of a close I felt close to myself in a way that I maybe hadn't felt.
32:14I felt a sense of purpose. And then I had a drama teacher that came into high school that kind of mentored me and saw me and said, "I think you have something to give here." And that was kind of all I needed. And then yeah, I had to. >> Weirdly, my dad was very resistant at first cuz he was just scared like any good boomer father would be of me not surviving as an actor.
32:32You know, he was very very concerned with me just like having a roof over my head and like >> living. Well, and also I I thought that was interesting when I read to that point that you grew up with no money and then your your your family started this business then went bankrupt and then Yeah. You know, from there it was just like, God, what am I I'm sure that feeling that your dad had for you was partly because >> he's been trying to forget it, but thanks for bringing it up.
32:54[laughter] [clears throat] >> Talk about the darkest time in your family's life, Andrew. [laughter] Real quick. >> Uh, so then was he was he really like a a hard ass about, well, yeah, fine. You can do the acting stuff, but you're going to go to college and you're going to study a backup career. >> Yeah, business.
33:11He wanted me to go into business, whatever that means. >> Did you? >> No. No, I I I did like an A level which is like an SAT in business and in in in England and it was uh I got a B. It was fine. But but I'll I'll tell you I'll tell you a cool story like so I go to drama school for 3 years and he he he kind of backs me.
33:29He's like okay if this is what you want to do I'm going to I'm going to help you do it. So I did three years >> after high school >> after high school. Three years university course in acting at a great drama school called Central which I loved. And um and then I started working in theater but I was still having to like do a bunch of you know odd jobs in Starbucks and I was a cricket coach for a while.
33:50I did a lot of >> you know waiting tables the usual thing >> but then you know there was a couple of moments on the on the journey on the way that he that me and him really started to connect. One was getting Spider-Man obviously and I kind of I think I called him straight away. I was like [ __ ] that business degree [ __ ] good boy made it kind of thing and he was like you don't have to worry anymore.
34:10Um, >> and uh, and then I did Death of a Salesman, which is a great play that Philip Zimmerman, >> Philip Zimmer Hoffman, and and yeah, Mike Nichols directing. >> Wow. >> And he came and saw that opening night. And it was like >> a lot of whatever dynamics we had to heal, father and son dynamics. We kind of started to really heal through me doing that play and him seeing me do that play and realizing that we had we had some wounds that we shared that the that the that it's it is generational
34:40that it is handed handed down um generation to generation these the not enoughness wound or whatever that I think a lot of men >> have I I certainly do that I work with all the time. But and then the kind of the third and and it was it kind of was revealed in my discussions with him that he had this unmet dream of wanting to be a writer.
34:59He he's he's a very charming, charismatic storytelling guy. He's very he's he's into art and culture. He's just it's just been a buried dream of his for a long time. So it was super interesting. And he would tell the story of driving past um Fox Studios when he was um he had a shipping company in LA and a moving company in in LA.
35:18He would drive past Fox Studios and just imagine, dream and wonder what was happening behind those gates. And there was um there was a night where he was out with my mom to visit me in LA. It was the night before the Oscars where I I I was nominated for the for the for the the first time I was nominated for an Academy Award.
35:37And I said, "Hey, there's a party tonight I want to take you guys to." And um yeah. He's like, "Where is it? Where we go?" I'm like, "Oh, no. We'll we'll you'll you'll find out." and we're driving and he's like telling stories about LA and his memories of LA and we start pulling up to Fox and he's a Fox this is where I used to dream and wonder and we start pulling in to um to the Fox lot >> which is where that night before party is >> is is is held and he he looked at me and he just started balling his eyes out and

Oscars Night With Father

36:06I was like well you're going to find out that it's actually not that interesting what happens [laughter] on the other side of these gates but at least you'll at least you'll you'll know and it was and we had a really beautiful beautiful breakfast the next morning the the day of the Oscars because you know we are competitive people and we like winning stuff but it's also been very tied in with our sense of identity our sense of selves as kind of Garfield men and we kind of healed a lot of that but still
36:31it was a beautiful thing to be able to like share like a big achievement of like an Oscar nomination with my dad in that way >> dude incredible >> it's amaz as a Garfield man as you said as [laughter] you said >> do you hate Mondays no Do do you love lasagna? >> Um, [laughter] very good. Do you have a dog?
36:52Yeah. >> Um, do you um I love that you had that moment with your dad and that he was able to express like in a really sort of real emotional unguarded way how he felt and what a great lesson to learn from your dad. um even even you know you're you're weren't a kid anymore but even just to [clears throat] to see to get that kind of example of that I think is really really important and and so meaningful man it's >> Is he still with us Andrew?
37:23>> Oh very much so. Yeah he's in England. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's writing and now he's writing like he's just writing for pleasure and uh he's really talented and he's yeah we have the like I think the proudest thing of my life is my relationship with >> with my dad and to see as you say worlds like to see someone allow themselves to evolve in that later stage of life through their kid as as their kid is trying to break free and evolve and individuate and and free themselves of
37:51some something that's holding them back from feeling fully joyful in their It's so I I I tip my hat. >> And you being old enough to see your your father as a as a as a co- adult, you know, somebody like as we get older, our parents become so human to us. It's it it can be off-putting at times, but also just um >> uh you know, obviously really enlightening.
38:15It's it's amazing how we all become sort of equal as we get older. >> Yeah. I Yeah. I Yeah. I think and and I've seen you I I' I've seen you speak on and and and I've seen sort of quotes of yours over the years uh talk about one of the things that that I love about you is the way that you talk about your how how open you are uh about various things.
38:37you've talked about grief quite quite openly o over the last few years >> in a way that I think is so um it's so admirable in the way that you're able to do that and really set such a great example and certainly just for me John Q public to read that and see you talk about really touched me and allowed me to kind of go like oh I I want to be that open I want to be in as in touch with my feelings about certain things I I think it's pretty pretty awesome >> that means a lot well And it you you had
39:08now a famous quote, Andrew, about grief, which I love, which is >> uh you said, "Grief is all the unexpressed love." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I thought I was like, "Oh, I had to think about that." I was like, "Oh, yeah." Cuz I try to pay I try to tell people how I feel now, even if it makes them uncomfortable or me uncomfortable.
39:24I don't want to save [laughter] I don't want to save all that love and and and and emotion for when they're dead or I'm dead. It's like now's the time, you know? But even with and even with that even with saying like my relationship is you know talking about my mother who passed away just before in 20 end of 2019 um even with cuz I told her I loved her all the time even with all that there was still there still is this kind of chasm of grief that's never going to be fully >> you know the love is that was the
39:56remarkable thing in that experience for me was like oh [ __ ] like the love is truly never ending like it's It's it's infinite. It's like it's infinite. Um and it doesn't stop >> um just it won't stop when I die. I I don't know. I I found that quite quite touching and quite beautiful. And yeah, I guess like I remember like being a young actor and looking up to certain people and wanting them to be as real as possible in the world, not just in their films or in their plays or in their
40:28music. I wanted like to feel like it was okay for me to be as kind of [ __ ] up as I was in the head and then in the heart and in the body. And so there I I I don't know. I find it interesting to kind of try to deconstruct the rules of our culture. Like I it's like why can't we talk about how [ __ ] shitty it is to lose your like like why can't why is grief a taboo thing?
40:51It doesn't make any sense to me in in in our in our culture. It was it was kind of fun to be able to I know fun is quite kind of a light way of putting it like it's I I didn't expect so many people to feel a resonance or a kind of a freedom because of that. But yeah, it was a very it's a very Yeah, I find it very beautiful.
41:10Well, it's also we we're we're a little bit I think as actors we we we get uh the privilege the opportunity to explore so many different parts of ourselves and and emotions uh as well that that um >> you know you you have to because the script says you know you're going through a breakup or something like that and you have to sort of like explore all that stuff.
41:32And so maybe just the the idea of dealing with that in your own personal life is not such a foreign and scary thing because we can tend to be practiced at some of these uh kind of oddly shaped emotions and characters, right? Um >> yeah. No, definitely. >> It's it's a nice part of it. And on that, Andrew, what what you know, you do you do so much great work and play so many different characters um in different genres and different formats.
42:00um what is it that um what is it that you like most about what you do um to to just ask you like the most base sort of simple question? I mean there's so many different parts to it but is there one thing that if you the same guns to your head um you have to say what is the thing that >> I have this [ __ ] Garfield at my disposal.
42:24>> One more [laughter] question Mr. Garfield does he have so much access to me? How [laughter] does he like how is he always in in the room? >> I own this [ __ ] guy. >> Cuz you told him your room number [laughter] was >> We'll be right back. And back to the show. >> U is there one thing that gets you most excited when you when you open up your eyes or start your work each day?
42:55>> Oh man. Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to be, oh god, overly sincere about these things. Um, but but but but it's like it's a life-saving job. I think this job saved my life in the sense that like I remember, do you guys read the Agassy um autobiography? >> No, but I've heard I should. I heard that's >> [ __ ] hell.
43:13It's so good. And it's about an athlete and and an athlete that hates the sport that he he hates tennis. Like the first line is I hate tennis. And it's like him and his father and all this stuff. and um he has this moment in the middle of the book where he's like I played for the US Olympic team and we won gold and I'm stood there with my fellow USA players and I thought to myself for the first time maybe I love tennis and I found that so deeply moving because for me it's like
43:48>> if I can be a part of a team if I can be a part of a community that's doing something that is greater than each individual and it's somehow of service in some way and if I get to go to all these emotional places that we're not allowed to go to in other in other you know areas of our life I feel just like so alive so joyful to be alive and like the luckiest >> person in the world so it's really feels to me when it's about like >> if it's about some kind of service to something greater some spiritual kind of
44:25pursuit then I'm like it's >> and the team effort of it too. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Collect there's a collective there's a collective thing and and the majority of the things I do have that kind of quality. I think I do seek out a kind of uh that kind of quality. Certainly with like the uprising it's about revolution and it's about what happens when the soul of a person or the soul of a group gets abused and kicked and beaten to the point where it says no more.
44:51or I either die or we change everything like what that that's an amazing journey to try to understand and and go and obviously like universal like throughout history and and right now there's people who are feeling that soul squeeze to the point of [ __ ] has to change or or today is a good day to die in the pursuit of that change >> right >> and the money you know [laughter] >> no what about what what about like [laughter] what about what about like location like part of the world, like how much do how
45:24much time do you take when you consider these jobs? Cuz I imagine you've got a bunch of different choices that conflict. >> Do you consider where you're going to be on the planet? How long it's been since you've been home? Um, >> that's a new thing for me. I'm thinking about that more as I get older.
45:37I think I think like in my 20s and 30s, it was like I'll I'll go anywhere any time and I'll I'll devote myself to this in a way that's probably a little unhealthy. But uh but now I definitely feel I don't know man like [ __ ] time is ticking like it's not like that awareness that it's not >> where is where is home?
45:57Sorry where where where speaking where is Okay. >> I'm in mo I'm most in London but I'm a little bit in LA as well where you guys are I think. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. What is it when when you when you consider taking something that's in a far away land and going to be gone for a for a while? What what are what are the what are the top three things that you think you're going to be missing and that you're going to be sacrificing?
46:16Is it certain relationships? Is it certain creature comforts? Is it um >> No, it's all relationships really. Like it's all it's relationships, but it's also my my my my home and my relationship to my home. Like I have a I've created a little home for myself in London that is it feels like an old friend at this point.
46:34So whenever I'm there, I feel like, >> oh yeah, this is um this is where I can just be. And and yeah, and and my family. I'm very close to my family. I'm very close with my nephews and my brother and my dad still. and and uh yeah, my old school like my old friends are from high school. That's like my my closest friends.
46:51>> Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah. Are you still is that still your sort of friend group? Your all your friends from high school and >> Yeah, friends from like I have a core group of about five or six friends from high school and like that's like I think that that they've certainly saved me from myself.
47:05>> They've got to be thrilled for you. Were did they have a did they have a a comfortable time a decent time sort of adjusting and adapting to them sharing you with the world? They [ __ ] love it. They love it because not only can they ride the coattails, they can also >> [laughter] >> um like rip the piss out of me in like more.
47:24They have free reign. They have like green light to >> What have you taken the most heat from? >> Oh, Jesus Christ. I mean, >> good run of you on Spider-Man outfit. >> I think I think when they see me trying to be sexy in any way in [laughter] like >> in like an award show or if I have like Let's see.
47:45>> Yes. [laughter] >> Give me the steamy look. >> You look at me in the eyes. Maintain eye contact. [laughter] >> Um, Andrew, I just have one Spider-Man question and I won't go on and on. I just This I did not know that it's Is it true that you and Toby Magcguire each have an actual species of spider named after you?
48:05And apparently Tom Holland does [laughter] not. Is that right? >> No way. >> Yeah, but Tom Holland has a gajillion dollars, so I think he's fine. [laughter] Yeah, but that's cool. You like a Is that true? >> I think I Yeah, I believe I believe I believe so. It's one of those things that you kind of forget happened because it's just too abstract to to be >> Was it a Garfield spider?
48:26>> I I don't I have no I honestly don't know. Sean Sean, can you >> All right. Well, [laughter] arachnologists named the Iranian species Pria Garfield or Garfieldi. >> No way. >> And Felistada Maguire in honor of the of you guys. That's pretty crazy. >> Now, you know, >> wow. >> And none of those words I probably So, uh, it is customary for me with someone like you who's done so much theater to ask if you have any crazy theater stories.
48:52I always start with one of my own just to make you feel like it's okay to share. Mine is I just did this one man show called the unknown and I played all 10 different characters. [laughter] >> It felt like 20 men bring me to Broadway. >> It was insane. [laughter] That was the same actor. [laughter] >> So >> this Russian guy is everywhere.
49:16>> He's now made his way to the back of the theater. >> No, but he's made his way into the back with the Italian [laughter] guy. >> They still can't find him. He just runs around from aisle to aisle. >> Yeah. And every night >> Canadian David Fincher is somewhere in the mix here as well. >> I like to think of myself as the Canadian David Fincher.
49:31Sorry. Go ahead, Sean. Sean, what's your theater story? So my theater story is one night one of my so one man show it played 10 characters. One night one of my characters asks another character question and I stood there waiting for the answer for a really long time [laughter] and then I go oh [ __ ] I'm that guy too.
49:48I swear to God they like after after 50 shows your mind starts to go crazy and I asked the question of the character and I was literally waiting for the answer. I was like oh I'm that guy too. [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> It was the it was the worst feeling. It was so scary. Um >> that's cool. like a mini mental breakdown that's like psychosis I think totally but anything in Angels in America or Death of a Salesman or anything.
50:13>> Yeah, I mean yeah definitely I think it was on one of the first previews of Angels in America that we did in London and it's after you know it's a 9-hour show and uh it's the first time we're doing you know all of it back toback on a Saturday and yeah [ __ ] And um I can't I don't know how that I don't know how any of us survived it truly.
50:30Like it's ridiculous. And but there's a there's a big climax at the end of the second part where I have to fight an angel on stage and the angel is on a harness and at one point she she goes up on wires and I'm like holding on to her and I'm like pulled around the rafters like off the ground during this very very technical fight.
50:53And to get set, I have to put my hands through loopholes by her waist with my and I'm wearing like a hospital gown with my ass out facing the um the audience and I'm like, "Okay, this this is our first time doing this in front of an audience." And I get set and I'm like right down at the front of the stage, my ass is towards the audience and I'm like >> pretending to wrestle this angel and I'm like set, set, set, and then nothing happens.
51:19We just stay on the ground. We're meant to be lifted. We're just like on the ground on the ground and as we all know like just the awful feeling of having to pretend like everything is fine. So I'm like >> continuing to wrestle. I'm just kind [laughter] of like doing the worst continual wrestle movement with my ass facing the audience.
51:41And it's it's I think it's about a minute and a half that I'm just doing this one [laughter] >> impossibly awful movement. guy backstage is trying to find the right rope to pull >> and the stage manager who is this very sweet nerdy northern guy comes out and like the the the dramatic music stops and I'm still doing this awful wrestle the climax of the show and the guy goes I'm so sorry everybody we've had some technical diff difficulties we'll be right back with you after like 8 hours
52:10of a show the curtain comes down and my ass is still to the whatever and the curtain comes down and we fix it and um I get back in the position after like 5 minutes. I stick my ass at the audience again and the curtain comes up and I'm still doing the [laughter] wrestle. And of course, like it works and the audience go [ __ ] crazy because that's what they want.
52:31They want the worst [ __ ] that could possibly happen to happen and it to be recovered and they're part of like something that could never have happened otherwise if they had come any other night. But it was >> I'm I'm sweating talking about it. Do you do you do you actually you just made a really good point about the sort of they're part of something that can never happen again the exact same way or otherwise?
52:52Is that part of the allure to you uh of of theater of those? >> Don't you think I I wonder what you guys think about this? I feel like I mean maybe this is a very obvious thing to say but I feel like that's where we're heading now. We're heading back towards live immersive >> 100%. Yeah. >> It feels like the like one of the last commodities that is going to be valued.
53:14>> One thing AI can't do. >> Well, per Yeah. experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like an actual >> whether it's comedy or music or theater or storytelling. >> It's going to be a huge It's going to be huge. Yeah. >> I think so. I I I don't know. I mean, >> and also what about like orchestral music too, right?
53:28Which is what what it used to be. Like there was no recordings of anything. You you had to go to the opera house or whatever it was and watch you know Beethoven conduct his symphonies like buy an album and hear >> gun to your head. >> Yeah. What symphony are you going to listen to? >> Hammercocked. Wait >> compose something.
53:47[laughter] >> Now Andrew, you know Jason will know and people know I love every once in a while like having a gummy just cuz it like it's relaxing and calming. >> A weed gummy. Yeah. And you once celebrated >> like a fine every once in a while. Yeah. >> Yeah. What's this? Every once in a while garbage.
54:08[laughter] >> Did you run out? >> Garbage. >> Yeah, I did run out actually. I need some more. You once celebrated turning 29 by eating pot brownies at Disneyland. Please tell me how that went. >> Yeah, it was it was one of the all That sounds fun. >> Great days. Yeah. No, it was one of the alltime great days.
54:24>> Did you ride rides though? I think I would puke. >> Yes. No. No. No. I did. And we didn't. One of us did. George did. George had to get off um crew like what's that California where you're kind of like >> oh yeah California adventure flying over yeah he he couldn't we we rode that a few times he only he could only managed two times um and yeah so George had a tough a tough run of it for a moment we all had tough moments it was like a group of like eight or nine of us and we
54:51all kind of you know got each other through those those kind of trenches moments and it was great each one of us dipped at a different moment so it was like a little bit like whack-a-ole there was like a corn dog moment that we had where I was really struggling. >> Oh, hang on. >> Um, but there was [laughter] one really I think the best moment the best moment was the simplest moment of the day weirdly where we transitioned from Disneyland to the the California Adventure theme park part of Disneyland.
55:16>> And um there's that song California here we come right back where we started from that was coming emanating from the speakers in the trees. And at one after the other, we all looked around and realized that we were all doing the exact same jaunty little walk dance [laughter] >> to that song. >> Like Happy Bears.
55:38>> Like we were doing the exact same and it was like >> that's funny. >> Sounds like there could have been some caps and stems in this uh these [laughter] counties. No, it was purely it was purely weed and and but we were so aligned. We were so aligned. We were aligned with the cosmos in that moment.
55:57And we apart from and we had you know we we it was fancy. We was like 29th birthday. So we pulled out all the stops. We got one of one of the guides to take us around. One of those lovely >> Disney guys and and her and her name was Shantel. And uh she may have been an AI robot because she did not betray any knowledge of what was moving through intoxication.
56:18She was just so like she was like Disney adult joyful. >> I think they're pretty accustomed there now to folks just tripping balls when they go down to there. Like there's two kinds of people. There's either like the wholesome family, you know, got the little kids and the strollers and all that stuff or the people above >> there's the shaggyhaired actors.
56:36Yeah. With their [laughter] buddies. If you're 25 years or older, you're probably on something. >> I can I try to do I can't do roller coasters and stuff anymore. I me my equilibrium's gone after 50 shot. >> Yeah. I get I get uh nauseous. >> I think I might be the same. I think I might be the same. I went to I was in Universal Studios recently with an old friend from high school.
56:57We went just I don't know. We just went and we had a a pop a kind of little pop candy and we had a guide as well. And I felt like she was cool enough because we did um the Transformers ride which is one of those like it's a screen and it's 3D [ __ ] hell. It's just pure [ __ ] hell. It's like [laughter] it's Dante's inferno.
57:17It's just horrible. >> And we came out and both of us I was worse. I was like I'm really [ __ ] up now in a way that's not pleasant in any >> I would blow chunks everywhere that I >> turned and I was too high and I was too dizzy and I turned and I was like I trust this girl. I'm going to see I'm going to see what she says.
57:34I'm like, "Hey, uh, I don't know if you're aware, but I we did a little bit of we got a little bit bit high before the Transformers ride, and now I'm regretting it." And she was so [ __ ] cool. She was like, "I got you. We're going to go to Hogwarts. We're going to go and get a butterbeer. [laughter] We're going to go and we're just going to sit on a bench and we're going to have I know a place where there's a really nice breeze.
57:54>> We're just going to ride this out. >> We're [laughter] just going to ride this out. This ain't my first rodeo. I'm right now, too." >> She's like, "Check out this ride. It's called a bench." Uh [laughter] >> um um now Andrew, I believe we've kept you way too long. Jason said one something to me a long time ago which I love.
58:10He goes when after he's worked his balls off on something like this movie or whatever or Will's in the same boat and I read that you're kind of similar. Jay said, "I want to aggressively do nothing >> when this is over just for a little bit for a day or a week or whatever." And you recently said your perfect day off would be a lot of lying down and looking out the window.
58:32which sounds incredible. Um, what how long can you do that for before you like up and up and again up and around again? >> I can do it for a couple of months. Like I like >> Oh god. >> Yeah, I really can. this time. I I've been working for like 11 months straight >> and it was so schizophrenic like doing the I did like Sam Alman who's like an emperor and then I did the peasant the peasant movie where I play the opposite of an emperor someone who's getting kind of abused by an emperor um figure and then doing Roy
59:06and and like and like doing Roy doing Roy Horn from like 20 years old to 65 years old like we We we we do the whole the whole gamut. >> So I feel, you know, you get to the point sometimes where you're so deeply resentful of the work that you love to do so much. And that's that's kind of that's kind of where I'm at.
59:26So I'm like >> And then what is your version of looking out the window? Is it is it watching dumb TV? Is it reading books? Is it hanging out with friends? >> I would like to say it's I would like to say it's reading books, but it is more watching dumb TV and literally looking out. I have a lovely window in my in my house and and it's there's a beautiful tree that I just stare at.
59:44Again, it's like this kind of like the most valuable commodity outside of live performance is quiet and time >> and space and not having our attention snatched by the things that are always snatching our attention. But no, yeah, friends. I I did a trip to Devon, which is a little seaside town in England with my nephews and my brother.
1:00:03I had a I did a trip with with with friends to um to Greece. I I was I I I did a little driving around Italy. Yeah. I mean like Yeah. tending to that part of the garden, being with my family. It was simple [ __ ] Like I think like >> one of the gifts of like being raised the way I was is it was made very very clear to me by osmosis.
1:00:23I think that >> that there was no way that I could ever allow myself to drink my own Kool-Aid enough to lose myself. You know what I mean? That's why I I I keep my >> my close friends close who will keep me accountable and like keep me I love that myself. Thank you for being here. This I'll never This is a great episode.
1:00:44I laugh so hard with you. >> Thank you. >> I love you guys. I think you guys are so phenomenal. I I'm such a huge fan of you guys and I'm grateful for this podcast and for everything you guys give to the world. I really really truly am sincerely. >> Right back at you. Keep it coming. >> Right back at you.
1:01:00And if you don't, we'll put a gun to your head and we'll say, "Keep going." [laughter] >> Have fun in New York, Andrew Garfield. Pleasure to meet you guys. Much love to you. >> So great. Great talking to you. >> See you around, I hope. All right. >> Yeah. Cheers. >> Bye, pal. Thank you. >> Bye. Bye. Bye.
1:01:16Bye. >> Uh, that's uh that's that's a I like that guy a lot. >> I do too, man. >> Me too. A lot. A lot. >> Yeah. What a easy breezy conversation. I love it. He'd ever consider being our friend? >> Yeah, let's ask him. >> He would be a good friend, doesn't he? >> Could we send him like what do you do?
1:01:36How do you make friends nowadays? You just like send an offer. >> But we don't want to come on too strong, though. >> Send an offer. >> You know, [laughter] you know, like listen by, >> this is just our starting point. Please feel free to counter. Uh, is that how [laughter] you started? I just >> I'm always amazed that actors like that go from job to job to job to job to job.
1:01:56How when do you have time to create the character? like and get and figure it all out. >> Do the research and all that stuff. >> Or or how about how about this? How about when do you have the time to like not be an actor and >> hang out and like maybe like >> meet meet some nice guys like us and create new friendships and uh you know >> you're still lobbying [laughter] for him to meet >> Yeah.
1:02:20I mean, Jesus, you know, um, >> you know what, Jay, you know what? He gets he he probably gets so many great opportunities, he can't stop, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. You you you know how you make a new friend? You meet somebody. >> Jesus. >> You you go really slow. You get to know them. >> So short >> and you go you just take it slow and you take it day.
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