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Hosts Will Arnett, Sean Hayes and Jason Bateman interview British writer-actor Sharon Horgan about her career, including Pulling, Catastrophe, Bad Sisters and her new HBO series Youth. The conversation also covers Jim Burrows' passing, a plug for their Hollywood Bowl show, and lighthearted talk of sleep and facials.

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Opening and Jim Burrows tribute

0:04What are you eating? What are you eating, Jay? What are you chewing on for the cold open? >> Yeah, I'm I'm >> You're back on your bars. >> Yeah, I'm >> Don't mention Don't mention the [music] brand because you know what? It's not worth getting, you know, $12 of free bars. You know what I mean? >> That's true.
0:17Instead, I will just give a nice Hawaiian welcome to our audience [laughter] and say hello. >> Oh my god. >> Welcome to Smart List. Smart.
0:31Smart less. [music] Smart less. >> Did we get a workout? We got a workout in already, JB. >> We got We got some cardio. We got some sauna. We got some pool. We got a shower. >> What would Have you gone to bed? I mean, that's a lot to accomplish, >> guys. I'm still up. >> Oh, no. >> I'm still up. Um, uh, Willie, I told Jason, I saw Jason on Sunday.
0:58We missed you. Sorry. >> And >> Oh, you guys got together? >> Yeah. What was your excuse? >> Not in town. Is that still >> You could phone in. >> But you're in town now. >> I am. I'm back. >> We're going to see you later today. >> Wait, but what? No, don't fall for it, Sean. You're back out again in a few days.
1:15>> No, a couple weeks. But let me just say this. We are going we are uh going to see each other tonight and this afternoon and tonight uh under circumstances that are not the best but we're going to celebrate the life of somebody that we all worked with and we all love deeply. >> The great the great uh Jim Burrough.
1:32>> Yeah, who we had on the podcast um and who sadly passed away a little while ago and >> close close friend of ours, a close mentor of ours, a father figure of ours. Yeah, one of the all-time great not just you know obviously he revolutionized uh multi- camera like television directing for comedy etc.
1:50But he also was just such an excellent guy. so kind and generous and just >> funny man >> was so was was instrumental in >> um g giving me uh really important roles in my life as an actor and also in mentoring me as a director and and and helping me find representation as a director like >> and to remind people and my sister Tracy he he directed every episode of Will and Grace and Cheers and he directed like the first year of friends and Two and a Half Men and Big Bang Theory and Mary

Burrows' career and Hollywood Bowl plug

2:20Tyler Moore and >> everything you've ever loved he he and he co-created uh cheers with the on top of that with the with the Charles brothers and it it reminds me I think I told him when he was on [laughter] JP I don't know if you remember this but one time we ran into Jimmy in Midtown uh in in New York and uh we talked to him for a second then he said all right I'll see you guys later and I go all right cheers and [laughter] and then I sort I sort of like watched him leave and I looked
2:45towards you and you were just staring at me with that like >> hey dummy did you just say cheers to Jimmy Bros [laughter] >> [ __ ] Canadian God damn it. >> So, the I told Jay this story, but I'll try to tell a shorter version. So, speaking of Jimmy, his wife, uh, Debbie Burroughs, uh, who we love, this the best, she invited Scotty and I for her first outing since her husband passed away to the Hollywood Bowl.
3:09And so, we go and sit outside on our front stoop and wait for the Hollywood Bowl. And Jay, please move me along if this is taking too too long. Oh my god, this story. This guy, this is last week. This guy was sitting it was this guy got out of his car across the street. >> I think Will, your guest just just clapped or snapped.
3:26[laughter] >> I know. She's like, I'm still here. >> Mike's still hot, still ready to come on the podcast. >> Anyway, well, I can tell you later, but um it's this crazy story, but this guy got out of his car, came over and started like berating me and Scotty out of nowhere and put his phone up. He started videotaping us and we were just sitting there.
3:44>> Where were you sitting? In front of your house. >> In front of our house. Yeah. And um and then Debbie pulls up and then he starts kind of getting into her face and my face and then it was weird. And then he and then we got in the car to go to the Hollywood Bowl and he just stands in front of the car and says, "Nope, you're not going anywhere."
3:59And wouldn't let us leave. This guy like having like a mental break. >> What was the What was the crux of his complaint? >> There wasn't anything. He was just parked across the street and when they were sitting out on their stoop waiting for their ride to pick them up, heavy um this guy just gets out of his car, walks towards them and says, "Hey, so what did he say?
4:15some like something out of total out of left >> like hey people have been talking about you guys and not good things and I was like well take a number you know but what else is new but uh >> I mean that part seems [laughter] fine to be honest >> I'm still with him I'm still on his side go ahead [laughter and gasps] >> but then then so so Deb somehow like maneuvers her car around this guy who's trying to stop them from leaving for some weird reason he gets in his car and pursues
4:45>> and starts chasing them down the street in his car and like trying to ram them off the road. >> Yeah. And then and then pull and then pulls in front of the car and blocks the car so we can't drive on a busy street on Highland. >> So what they decide to do is d drive directly to the Hollywood Bowl and talk to some of the local security there.
5:00>> Yeah. Anyway, it was really weird. >> Hey, >> this is all just to say a shameless plug for our show at the Hollywood Bowl. [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> Wow. >> I did not see that coming. John, [laughter] >> come see us October 17th at the Hollywood Bowl. You never know what's going to happen. >> Yeah.
5:19>> Anyway, Michael, our producers, is like, "Hey, plug your show this morning at the Hollywood B." I'm like, "Oh, I got actually got a real story." >> It is true, everybody. October 17th. [sighs and gasps] >> Come on and enjoy. We don't know what we're doing and we just need a little help out there. >> Yeah, we'd love to see you.
5:35>> Empty seats would be terrible. >> We'd love to see you. So, come on and come say hi and and shout at us. I think Will has a friend and Sean has a friend. I have no friend for this one. This is a two guest um night. >> Um double your pleasure, double your fun. >> Single price. >> It's going to be a lot of fun.
5:54>> One ticket. Yeah. >> Uh and uh Oh, I wanted to give I wanted to give a hint about my my guest, but I'm not going to. But I uh >> Leave it in there. >> Yeah. It's just somebody we know who hasn't been on the podcast who uh >> Let's hear one more snap. Maybe I'll get it. Um, wait, wait, wait. Uh, speaking of good guests.
6:13>> Oh, speak. >> Talk about a segue. Hey, um, [clears throat] our guest. Oh, now JB, you and I. >> Wait, so you were just talking about the Hollywood Bowl guest. >> I was. Now I'm talking about our guest today. You seem less less enthused about this one. >> No, no, no, no. I was about to get into cuz we know, you and I both know and have worked with this person.
6:34>> Oh, boy. >> Uh, there's a there's a And I don't >> Porsche Dasi. >> No. And I think that no on different on different projects. Uh but Sean, I don't know if you know this person, but you definitely know her work. Super super super funny. >> Uh I first saw her, I think was in uh her acclaimed series Pulling on BBC, which made me laugh super super hard.
6:55Uh she she's won all sorts of video named pulling. >> Pulling. I did. [laughter] >> I haven't returned it. She's she was also got a lot of claim for her series Catastrophe. I got to know her on the increasingly important decisions of Todd Margaret with David Cross. Jason, you knew her from game night.
7:16You guys always hilarious writer, producer, former Sharon. >> COME ON, SHARON HAN. >> GOD, I JUST SAW your face in today. >> You did? >> Oh, yes. >> Oh, that's so funny. Do you know what I was doing? Do you know what that noise was? That click? Uhoh. >> I I was just sitting here and I've got loads of [ __ ] on my desk and I just picked up a thing and I thought maybe it was hand sanitizer.
7:41>> Eye drops. Eye drops. >> Some haven't got my glasses. It is eye drops. >> It's eye drops. Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. >> And And you just squirted some on your hands. >> I think it would be okay to put >> as long as you don't put hand sanitizer in your in your eye. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. >> Oh. Where now?
7:53Where is it? You said that's your office there. >> Yeah. Well, it's my office, but it's also kind of slash um the winter wardrobe room. Well, not really winter wardrobe. It's kind of You can see there's a mirror there. That's where like I might try on clothes for things like not my regular clothes like if I have to get dressed up for a thing.
8:12It's a weird It's a weird room. >> It's a weird life. It's a weird life. >> Sharon, do you have a a mirror face? >> Huh? >> What's that mean? >> You have a mirror a mirror face when when you look in the mirror and you really want to see how you look. >> Isn't there a face? >> Walk her through. Give her the Richard Early.
8:30So, we have a we have a we have a friend who uh he he to to trigger his mirror face. He kind of semi- whispers hisses a line to himself which is he pretends he just got directions from someone and he turns over his left shoulder and he says it's where >> like he's really hear it. So, it kind of tightens up his eyes.
8:51So, it's it's where it's like smokey. Yeah. Now, do it [laughter] now. Try it. Say go. Go. Yeah. Um I don't think that would work for me. Um no, I I mean unfortunately I am I can't I pout in the mirror. I can't help it. >> Yeah. I think we all my my 16-year-old, he accuses me of doing a certain face like in photos and stuff and now he does it to me, which is really tough cuz if it was one of these guys, hey, go [ __ ] yourself.
9:18But 16-year-old >> cuz I'll bet he nails it. Let me see it. >> It's like it's kind of like [laughter] >> it's the worst. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's the worst. Sharon, welcome to the show. >> Sharon, I just have to say we will was like, I don't think you know this person, but I called you and you took the call and you gave me wonderful advice for a project.
9:41>> I felt I had paranoia about that for a while. >> No, no, it was wonderful. So, thank you. >> Tell us about this is about pulling. That was not a bit about pulling. This is about [laughter] >> No, no, no. We don't have to talk about it. No, but it was great. >> Oh, good. I'm glad I'm glad it I'm glad that worked out.
9:57>> But you know what? Speaking on totally different topic, Bad Sisters. I still talk about Bad Sisters. It's one of the best shows I've [clears throat] ever seen in my whole life. And you were I mean it was just incredible. And then there was a season two which I still have not seen. >> Oh, you got to see that.
10:09That's Yeah, that that's if you like if you like the first one. >> I love the first one. >> Jesus. Second one. >> Sorry. >> See the second you doing, dude. >> Sorry, >> Sharon. It's been like nonstop. Just great great work and great reception for you and everything that you're doing since the last time I saw you.
10:25I mean uh congratulations you consistently not just not just as a performer but it's so admirable and it the way how much stuff you create how much stuff you write for yourself. Yeah, it's really impressive and I I wonder like >> does that engine still is is it just as strong in you now as it was 10 years ago or do you does it feel more like a mountain to climb as as you go on?
10:53Um, no. I still really like creating new stuff cuz I I think that um I mean I loved Bad Sisters and you know I I kind of it was hard to say goodbye to it in a way but um but I also think when you're making something you you kind of get you know the that show had a certain a certain kind of feel to it and so with that comes a certain kind of music that you choose for soundtrack and you kind of you get into um >> you know you kind of fall into a pattern.
11:27And then then when you when you make something new, you get to start all over again, like from from scratch. You get to be you get to just like put your playlist together and and and and start over. And and it's really scary because when you when you come up with characters, you kind of you always think that's the that's the last time you're gonna come up with a good character.
11:50So it so it is scary but but it's it's really fun to to start over, isn't it? >> Yeah. And I I will I will say that I think now it occurs to me that the sort of the English model which has always been and we've sort of adopted it in this country now with >> in this country I think it was often people were known for a certain series.
12:12they do one maybe two series in their life and and the audience would accept them in this new role >> but they knew them from the the first thing that they were known for. You guys have always done in the UK because because of the way that the formatting is done. You didn't have a lot of shows that did 9 12 15 seasons.
12:28So people could go and do one or two seasons of a show and then you could go and write a new show and the audiences were totally willing to go oh she's doing this new show and I'll see her doing that. I mean, you could do a couple of shows in a year, you know, we we would be doing six episodes. >> Like, we would film a series in six weeks.
12:50I mean, it's a little bit different now because, you know, you're making shows that are will air on Amazon at the same time as Channel 4. So, you kind of have to make eight or 10 and you kind, you know, so it's a little bit different. >> Well, we all have the same distributors now, right? It's not >> Yeah.
13:04Yeah. Exactly. But back in the day when we were just making stuff for, you know, a UK or an Irish audience, you know, you film it in 6 weeks and then you're kind of Yeah. you you move on to the next thing. And also you would you would get like a couple of seasons or like with pulling um you know that was like two seasons and and a and a special and and that's kind of that's kind of it.
13:27You're done >> and that's it. And and also the budgets were were were sort of low enough that the risk they allowed you to do stuff. I mean, the budget, we've done I've done it before. You show up and you're like, "Where's Craft Service?" And they're like, "What'd you bring?" >> There's nothing. There's some [laughter] It used to Will Will Will and I did this show called The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret that Did anyone see?
13:47>> No, but I remember seen a little piece of with David Cross. >> So funny, >> but it had no no budget and I [clears throat] craft services was um a box of biscuits and some tea bags around. Yeah, >> that was it. >> Yeah, >> it was. And for us that was completely normal. But for any Americans coming over, they were >> just a gasast at not having constant food.
14:10Oh, ju um a funny a funny thing. Can I just say a funny thing because it just came into my head when we were doing um Game Night. >> Yeah. >> I was >> I love By the way, can I just say I I'm one of the I've seen Game Night three times minimum. I [ __ ] love that film. It is so underappreciated to both of [laughter] you guys.
14:29It is such a funny good funny. >> I I urge anybody please see game night. It's so good. Sorry. >> But I was when I was filming when I was filming game night um I was writing this series for UK TV called Motherland. So when we were in the in the trailer when we were in the trailer I was writing that series and I [laughter] I my coowriter like when we would um I don't think there was even I don't think we were zooming.
14:58I can't remember. Anyway, I would be eating lobster. There was lobster [laughter] in craft services. So, I'd be eating lobster in my giant trailer while she's like, >> you know, sitting in her [ __ ] hole in in London. So sure with all the massive amount of work it takes to fill up a blank page you do do what you do is just it's so impressive but it is an enormous amount of work an enormous amount of concentration um and work and writing.
15:29>> Yeah. What what what is your favorite part of it that fuels you through all of that tough tough work and discipline? What what is the thing that most excites you and drives you to do what you do? I think it's the the writing bit for sure because although although I do I love I love an edit where you're putting it together and making it better like where you're just kind of incrementally kind of making something actually >> good but the writing bit I think >> but like what part like creating
15:59characters or or coming up with stories or >> just sitting in a room with funny people laughing I think is ridiculous joy. >> Yeah. Do you ever do it? Do you But do you ever you write solo by yourself in a room? >> I write solo by myself as well, but like even the things that I I don't know why I did that with my hair.
16:16Sorry. Um I even the [laughter] Even the stuff that I I write mainly solo. I like now I I I love to have a a writer's room and and you know someone writes um >> you know a few episodes are are written by a couple of the writers in the room but that like I just came from one today and it was >> you know some of the people will end up writing a script but a lot of them are kind of there you know um as consultants or you know just writing assistants yeah just coming up with ideas.
16:47Yeah, there's nothing better that feel. There's nothing some of the deepest laughs I've ever had have been in stuff that by the way bits and jokes that never made it into anything that didn't work. But some of the hardest laughs are in those rooms pitching a bit and somebody comes up with a bit that catches you off guard and you're like, "Holy [ __ ] I've never heard something like that."
17:08>> And and also like at that stage the possibilities are endless. I mean, you can go anywhere and no one's telling you that there isn't enough money and no actors turning it down. >> So, wait, so you just walk around with like tons of ideas all the time, every day, every week? >> Uh, no. I wouldn't I No, I don't think so.
17:26I mean, I I I I kind of I have that slightly unfortunate thing of not always being in the moment cuz I'm thinking like that could be that it's not healthy, I don't think. I'm the >> No, I I I think for the most part I don't walk around thinking like that. But I guess when when um when I need to start thinking like that, like if if I'm thinking I I I I don't know, I'm going to not do this series beyond, you know, um this season, I kind of think, oh, I should be thinking of something else.
18:00But then I also kind of go back like I go back and look for things that were germs of ideas and and that have now become more relevant in your life because you're at a different stage in your life, you know, right? >> You know, in your relationship or with your family or work or >> sometimes things just suddenly become relevant and and you're like, "Oh, it's an idea."
18:22>> How do you decide on what to take on? Will you primarily do what it is you think up or um or like what's the ratio as far as incoming calls with ideas like hey maybe think about maybe adapting this magazine article or this book or rewrite this? For the most part, for the most part, I I don't do that.
18:41Like although Bad Sisters was that was an incoming call that was um um brought to me because it was a Belgian series and you know, would you like to adapt this? And so that was kind of sort of the first time I did that. But generally it's you know like there there's incoming calls with like IP to adapt and that kind of thing but for but usually you know I do that within the company or you know like you know connect something with a writer that I admire or you know I kind the things [clears throat] I do
19:15myself often are are things that I just kind of think I should probably have I could either have some therapy or I could write this thing about my [laughter] my ex. But there's there must be a certain relief like when you knowing that like when you're working on all these ideas and the sort of the various stages of development.
19:32We all know that sometimes that can be long. It can be arguous. You're trying to put it together. There's all those different elements and then all of a sudden you get a call from Hollywood and you know big Hollywood uh superstar Jason Baitman's doing a movie that that's that's a cakewalk with lobster.
19:47They're going to have lobster every day and all you got to do is sorry do you mind taking a couple first class flights to Atlanta? [laughter] You know what I mean? staying at the Four Seasons. Would you would you do that? I mean, that kind of feels like a vacation a little bit, doesn't it? >> Oh my god.
20:01I I love doing that. I mean, I I really do. I think that's a total buzz to to >> Where have all those jobs? Some Where have those jobs gone? >> We'll be right back. >> And now back to the show. >> Wait. Now, Sharon, talk to me about how you write something that you you know you're going to play this character and you're writing that one, but you're also writing other characters.
20:28>> Yeah. >> And you have to uh oversee or drive or approve the casting of those characters. And inevitably, they're going to they're going to they're going to perform those lines differently than how they have lived in your head as you wrote it. And the reason those lines work is because you're kind of performing them in your head as you're writing them.
20:49And you might not be directing or something like that. How do you manage that? Cuz like when you're playing the character you wrote for you, you're doing it perfectly, [laughter] >> right? I mean, you're like, "No, but you're like reading you're like reading the mind of the of of the author." Um, but with these other characters and it all sounds a little bit different.
21:05Is it do you have to bite your tongue? Do you do you kind of whisper to the director or the showrunner or or oftentimes you are those people? >> Is it tough? Yeah, I mean it it uh yes, I think it is, but I think I've learned how to be better at it. >> Um because I used to it used to be a problem, you know, if people didn't do it the way that [laughter] was in my head or like when when >> Oh, I just I I just >> it just doesn't work as well.
21:35>> Yeah. And and you sort of end up I remember with pulling like and Dennis Kelly who wrote it with me, we'd never made anything before. I I don't know how we were allowed make it. We didn't even have to make a pilot. We just wrote a script and then suddenly we were It's cuz it cost 10p to make. So there was like they didn't have much to lose.
21:49But >> I remember we we wrote this >> and for Tracy 10p is 10 trillion dollars [laughter] US. >> Very expensive over there. >> Um we we wrote this line for for one of the the main actors in it and it was it was just a stupid line. It was it was a joke about um a thing. Do you remember the [ __ ] lollies um episode?
22:08Um will what one of the girls has created this come up with this thing called a [ __ ] lolly and it's it's an ice lolly in the shape of a [ __ ] and she's like you can market it to you know hen parties [laughter] or >> and she has to say about she has >> go to cart >> go to cart shipping [laughter] >> express pay extra for express and check >> [laughter] >> Okay, I'm going Shopify.
22:43Okay, >> the guy that she's pitching the [ __ ] lollies to, she's doing it as a sort of like dragon dragon's down style pitch. And the guy she's pitching it to, >> he suggests like or he's he goes, "Can you can you get will there be a joke on the stick?" It's a brilliant idea. You should have a joke a joke.
23:00You know, you used to be able to >> you used to be able to like >> Oh, like like fortune cookie on the stick. Yeah. on the stick of the lolly >> and she says there's a place in Birmingham. It's all they do >> and and it was like, you know, it was just cuz she was so honest. [laughter] She like she'd researched [clears throat] this thing.
23:18She'd practice for this pitch. She it was just like had to be off the off the cuff. There's a place in Birmingham. It's all they do. >> And like she said it in a brilliant way and it was perfectly fine. And we just kept going in and going there's a place in in Birmingham. It's all they do. So just throw it away.
23:33And then we walk off and then she'd say it again. And it it went on and on and on until she hated us. >> And then we made her come in and do it again in ADR. >> Oh my god. >> So talk about a a line reading. You were like saying, "No, here it is. I'm going to say it and you're going to repeat it the way you get [laughter] all the in."
23:56>> She wanted a line reading cuz she was like, "I want to I want to do it the way." So we were doing it, but even then it was stupid. It didn't make it. We >> Okay. So do it. Do it how she did did it and then do it how you wanted it. >> Oh god, I'm not gonna remember really. I think she >> We'll just have her name.
24:12What's her name? [laughter] >> No, she she was brilliant. >> By the way, it's my favorite. >> By the way, Sean Sean Sean, let's do let's do it's time we haven't done it. Uh what happened to the fan or did something >> Where's the fan? >> Where's the fan? Do you know this Sharon? This we start >> It's funnier in life, but if >> I've never heard of it.
24:31Yeah, you did. Jed it. >> We've done it. So, so you have to do a line reading of where's the fan. Okay. So, when I went to recol I went, of course, obviously >> I went to San Francisco for a trip and we checked with a friend of mine >> just once. [laughter] >> It's such lowanging fruit. It's so [laughter] dumb.
24:54>> That's about the cheapest joke I think I've ever It's ever slipped out of my mouth. I sound awful. >> Unbelievable. [laughter] You're in Greece. Wait, what are you saying? [laughter] >> So, I go to San Francisco with a friend. We check into a hotel and I can't sleep without a fan, right? So, I call the front desk.
25:11I'm like, can you send up a fan? And they said, sure. So, they send up a fan and on the fan is a is a note that says, please do not remove from the office, right? So, then we were like, well, what happens? What happens when the boss walks into the into the hotel that day and then you have to give the line reading of where's the fan?
25:27But you have to give it like a preamble up to it. So then I would say so like somebody come and be like okay boy we got a lot of problems in the hotel today >> where's the fan right can I go you have to notice yeah okay now >> so we started you do it at dinner and you make everybody >> everybody has to go around and do a different reading of noticing the fan and seeing >> I have to yeah just a little bit >> hey listen I'm sorry I'm late the traffic >> where's the fan >> yeah okay that's [laughter]
25:56[gasps] and now um Amy had Amy had one Amy pul Poler had one. It was really funny. She comes in, she goes, "Guys, I am fed up with haha, where's the fan?" [laughter] >> Oh, that's great. >> By the way, this is the first time I've ever played this game. Never heard before. >> Nailed it. >> That is good.
26:16So, I wanted you to do what? It's written. It's in Birmingham. They What? >> What do they do in Birmingham? There's a place There's a place in Birmingham. What is it? >> There's a place in Birmingham that that's all they do. >> There's a place in Birmingham. That's all they do. You need You wanted the pause.
26:31You wanted the pause. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> There's a place in Birmingham. It's all they do. >> That's all they do. Yeah. >> That's all they do. >> Maybe with a bit more like um satisfaction in the fact that she's already thought of. >> There's a place in Birmingham. [laughter] >> It's all they do.
26:49>> Oh, we'll tighten that up later. >> That's good. >> And you can pull the but you can pull out this. Yeah. I make sure for pull out the whole >> But you know what? You know what the thing is that um I I was um continuing to be a bit prescriptive with, you know, with with actors and how they do things cuz cuz cuz like the thing is is there's not I had to learn that there's not just one way of of doing things.
27:14>> Do you know what I mean? like and and I remember speaking to Donal um Gleon about it and him and him just sort of going >> what what's the point in in hiring actors if you're just going to tell them how they should do like what what are we there for if if we can't sort of you know >> right but what you were what you were trying to manage was also the the assumed expectation from the hiring hands that brought on Sharon Han to deliver something that you stand by that you stamp that is your aesthetic that is
27:44your humor it is your script And then if all these actors come in and they start freestyling, it starts to drift away from something that you can stand by and and manage and say that right. I would assume that that was going through your calculation of like how much do I let these people contribute? >> Yeah.
28:02Were you worried were you were you worried about the people at the BBC getting the cut of this and they're going through and they're all watching in a conference room and then they go and they hear her go uh uh their place in Birmingham. It's all they do. And then they just pause. Pause it right there.
28:15[laughter] >> Because that's the thing. >> Sharon Morgan lost her [ __ ] mind. >> That's the thing. >> What have we done? [laughter] >> No one gives a [ __ ] That's the thing. You kind of But >> that's the other thing you forget. Nobody gives a [ __ ] >> I genuinely feel that there is an accumulative effect thing though.
28:31And if you let all those little things that you stand by go, >> then over the course of it, it it's just not you. you you you do lots of takes and and then you you sort of, you know, create it in in the edit, I guess. >> Well, you know what they're saying? What's coming is like the the the the stage you got to by having her come in for uh ADR and and for Tracy that is I think it's automated dialogue replacement, I think is what it's called.
28:58Anyway, addition I think it's additional or something. Yeah. So, you go in and you you just record this the the your your line that you you read and then they kind of put it in your mouth to picture. And so, but you've sometimes you can change the the way this the line sounds. And what they're saying is coming with AI is that not only can you unilaterally, Sharon, as the showrunner, >> change the reading of that line, but you can also manipulate the face.
29:26And this is the stuff that thank God. >> You don't even need AI for that. Like I I' I've shut someone's mouth this week and [laughter] and >> really you just >> right. So it doesn't look like you >> Jason. They can make you Jason. They can make you look happy. They can >> they can [laughter] lift my eyebrow.
29:46>> They can lift your brow. Yeah. >> You can cancel your appointment with the with the Beverly Hills doctor that I know you have. >> Dr. Lift. [laughter] >> Yeah. I >> Wait, wait, Sharon, you shot somebody's mouth. >> No, listen. It was such a small thing. We there it was it was actually it was actually a what you call it an extra a supporting artist who was who was mouththing um like he looked really funny >> and and facially he was doing something funny but he was he was m something
30:14whilst the actor was speaking so we didn't want to cut him out so we just shut his mouth >> right made it look like he wasn't talking >> exactly like he wasn't he wasn't talking yeah someone told me that that that I should work in animation because if you work in animation you can just make the people do do whatever you want.
30:33>> By the way, talk about like you you can do it's it's like the writing process. So it's why Simpsons not why it's so funny they have brilliant people, but you can do anything. You can go anywhere. There's no budget. You can pitch any >> but that's what they're saying is coming in in in AI is not and it's not going to be some cartoon character.
30:47It's going to be something that looks exactly like a person and like you know I mean I that's a whole different episode. We talk about how we all feel about that. But it it's just like it's freaking remarkable. >> Isn't it interesting in animation what what I was saying yesterday was >> human behavior has become so cliche.
31:08>> Yeah. >> That animators can now animate, you know, the way people behave because we've seen a billion movies and TV shows. We know how they're going to react basically. And so I I I don't know what I'm saying other than it's just like >> there's no surprises. It feels like there's no surprises with like if you're shocked, you're shocked that this is what you get when you're shocked for this actor and that actor and that actor.
31:31There's certain you just get a different look of it. >> Show me shocked. Show me shocked. >> Go ahead, Sean. >> Show me shocked. >> Good. >> Oh my god, that guy is shocked. >> I like you at an eight. I'd love you to five. Still rolling. [laughter] >> I could do less. I could try less. I could try less.
31:48>> Slightly shocked. Slightly shocked. >> I have like 10 faces that I shuttle through. That's about it. [laughter] >> Yeah. Right. Anyway, um Sharon, I I'm just remembering Sharon, I remember, you know, some some of I saw on a talk show or Reddit or something >> about, you know, I live for I live for medical stories, you know.
32:09>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. And I read something or I remember maybe you said it about a catheter or something. What? Uh >> yeah, just take your time and sort of figure out what you're going to say. Wait, it was >> You want to take a second? We'll allow Not only do you not know the source? You don't know what she said.
32:26>> Jesus, >> I don't remember, but it was a >> You're making this up. Do you want We can use AI and we can have her say it if you want. >> You're losing [laughter] You're losing color. Keep your hands above. >> I don't remember. I I don't know if you remember. I I I thought it was so I don't know, but I love medical stuff.
32:39>> Do you remember Do you remember your your position [laughter] on catheterss, Sharon? >> Well, I I think so. Then I I had a catheter. [laughter] >> Yes. >> I don't remember having one of those. >> You did? A catheter just sort of drains. Could be draining anything really, couldn't it? No. You >> sure?
32:54Yeah. >> I think it's just urine. >> I think I had I think Is it just urine? >> I think it's up your pee hole. Yeah. >> That's where the urine comes from. >> No, I've never had that. >> Okay. >> Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. >> Tell me your name again. [laughter] >> Wait a second. Hang on a second. Hang on a second.
33:06>> I had a one inserted in my leg to drain. >> Oh, maybe that's what it was. >> But I'm sure I don't ever remember. >> For what? What happened? Your leg. >> I I dislocated my my hip. But I did it when I was little and and um the you know the doctor I was seeing didn't realize that it was dising pains and it and it got it got more and more dissipated.
33:31So then they had to open it up and put pins in >> and so I remember that thing hanging out of my leg. But I don't I don't believe I ever told any. >> How old were you? >> I was 13. >> Wow. Was this Was this in Was this in Ireland? Did >> Yes. Yeah. >> Because you were you were born in you were born in in England, but you moved to Ireland.
33:52Is that right? Because your your mom and your or your mom's Irish, is that right? >> Yeah, my mom is Irish and um well, my mom met my dad in London and they had the first of their two kids in London before they moved to Ireland to raise us raise us properly. >> And then you guys you guys you guys moved to Ireland because of their medical techniques of uh blood blood.
34:12[laughter] Well, they moved to Ireland because my my mom and dad worked in a in a pub. My dad was a landlord of a pub and it was in the the east end of London when it was really, you know, like really dodgy kind of area. And he was, I think he was asked to give an alibi for a local gangster and he was right, right, I'm getting my family out of here.
34:31And so he moved us all over to to Ireland. >> My grand my grandpa's from Dingle. >> Oh, really? That's beautiful. >> Yeah, it's really pretty. Sean, >> did you go did [laughter] you go to Ireland? >> I went I went twice. Once with my family in 2001 and then I did one of those um you know uh >> audience with >> No, they family they follow your family tree.
34:57>> Who do you think you are? >> Yeah, that's what I did. That's the one. >> What did you find out? >> Scared to do it. >> Everybody was drunk and ended up in jail and Yeah. >> Oh, >> yeah. That's it. >> Wow. >> Have you done that, Sharon? I I haven't actually. Um >> really? Have you done that? >> No, but a lot of people ask me who do you think you are?
35:14So [laughter] >> I got that mainly at restaurants. >> Um all right. Well, so Sharon, so so you're you're born in England. You moved to Ireland. Um at what point does sort of the idea of making people laugh and >> your parents are running pub like >> Yeah. When did when does that all start? They were running a pub and then they moved into poultry [snorts] and um sure natural progression.
35:40>> And how did it happen? The funny thing um well I guess I'm in a family of five kids and you know I guess right that's you kind of uh second eldest. >> Okay. >> Uh and it's you know how you get attention I suppose is um making your [laughter] >> parents laugh. >> When when did you think I might be able to make a living at this?
36:02>> Oh [ __ ] not. for years. I mean, I um I didn't start making a living at it until like about until I was about, you know, in my in my early 30s. I I did other things. I didn't do this job. >> Like what? >> I worked as an administrative officer in the employment service for [snorts] six and a half years.
36:26>> Wow. >> That sounds like a desk and an office building. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was like signing [clears throat] people on for uh uh you know employment benefits and helping signing on at the labor exchange. Do you what happens when you get laid off from the from the employment office [laughter] and you're all of a sudden you're on the other side of the desk?
36:42>> I didn't get laid off. I I I would have been there for life. I just had to I had to just like >> it must be a tough job actually. >> I just had to leave. >> This was a job you took uh for practical reasons. It was a it was a it was an opportunity and you wanted to check, right? I yeah, I think I just um my my my dad just kind of instilled a a a work ethic in us and and if you weren't working, you were you were just kind of what the [ __ ] were you doing kind of thing.
37:11So So like I wasn't getting I kind of went to London to find my fortune kind of thing, you know, but I didn't know how to do it and I was kind of too scared to do it as well. Did you know anybody who was performing or doing comedy or >> No, nothing. No one. I just knew people like me who were kind of didn't know what they were doing with their lives.
37:32>> Did you study something in college that you went to London to pursue? >> I was studying art in Dublin and then I tried to get into drama school in Dublin. Didn't get in and then I came to London to try and get into drama school and didn't get in anywhere. So I was just like, >> "Oh my god." >> So uh yeah.
37:48So, but then I did go back to when I left the employment service, it was to do I went and did a degree cuz I I thought, [ __ ] I bet, you know, I better get some kind of >> degree in what >> in English. >> So, that's when I started doing creative writing and that's when I kind of thought, oh, cuz cuz I wanted to be an actor.
38:07Like, I I had no, >> weirdly, I had no interest in writing or >> So, tell me about that about them not letting you into freaking drama school twice. I know. >> I mean, who's who's laughing now? Yeah, >> I went to I went to so many places to to to apply. >> That's wild. >> And we will be right back. And now back to the show.
38:32>> When you look back, was it was there something that you were doing wrong or different than because you're clearly very talented and very capable and have a definite uh control over your your your your acting tool. Were they looking for like more grand sort of classical Shakespearean type of performance that you weren't interested in doing because you're so natural?
38:52>> Yeah, because for all drama schools, all drama schools you have to do a modern piece and a Shakespearean piece. I I think I don't know about you guys, but like uh auditioning used to terrify me. Like I used to lose all my skills, you know. I I I I took me a long time to learn how to do a good audition.
39:10I I I mean I was I was probably I didn't get in because I was terrible. I was I'm >> terrible at it. Yeah. >> No. How is that? First of all, both of you that's not possible. You guys are both terrible. >> Auditioning is the one of the more terrifying things that has been in my life forever and for always.
39:30>> Really? >> I remember I remember going for an audition for extras. Do you remember the Ricky D? >> I went for an audition for extras. Um, we had the same agent, which is I think why I got the audition because it was kind of early in my career. And uh and uh and and I got a phone call the next day and and D said they want you to come back in.
39:49I was like, "Oh, that's great." And it's Ricky said, "I wanted to come in back in because she can't be that bad." Like [laughter] because because my agent had obviously big me up, you know, and I'd done a few bits, but not much. So, >> but I bet you got worse on the second time because now it's oh [ __ ] I got to go back in there.
40:08Like, all I want to do is get the hell out of there as soon as I get in there. And if they if they give me notes and they want me to do it again, now I'm like in a total flop sweat and I'm starting to have a panic attack and I can't get out. >> Jason, you used to have what was your partying line that you used to say is great.
40:23What was good luck with it? >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Oh my god. How much? Cuz I used to sweat so much. >> Yeah. I would I'd have to wear layers with it. >> Yeah. >> I remember doing I remember doing an audition with um Matt Leblanc for that um >> No, >> no, no, no. Oh, I know the one you mean. episodes and and so I got quite far down the line and I I was called back and called back and then I was doing the scene with um Matt and and when I got up to leave I'd left my what I I'd been wearing this
40:58little cardigan and and sort of took it off and it was sort of sitting on the seat and when I was leaving I forgot my cardigan and he picked it up and he sort of like held it like like like up like this like like it was a sweaty smelly thing [laughter] that it was like I'd sweated so much into it that you could sort of pick it up like it like it was a snot rag and >> [laughter] >> uh >> and hand hand it over to me.
41:20It was it's horrifying. >> But I think I found a way to sort of >> What is it? What's the secret? >> I I don't know. Like I had to just start doing a breathing thing. I had to just sort of start um you know another thing was like I would eat a banana. >> Eat a banana and just sort of learning to kind of control my breathing.
41:39Like the banana thing is probably completely psychosmatic, but I but I thought that it would give me a slow release of energy and and if I had this banana, I wouldn't convince myself that, you know, it helped me with the shakes or wow. >> I mean, now I use beta blockers, but like ages. >> Yeah, you just take Xanax, you're done.
41:58You're fine. [laughter] >> But you fixes it all. >> That that destroys your brain cells though, doesn't it? You need >> I don't understand. You hear these like super famous stories of very famous actors, movie actors and stuff who later like 20, 30, 40 years later after you finally hear that like, oh yeah, they were high on this or drunk on that when they filmed that scene or they didn't I'm like how can you know how can you say your lines like I'm not like the Charlie Sheen documentary and you know
42:24I'm not it's it's out there for everybody to see. So I'm not commenting on anything other than he he admitted like oh yeah I was high then I was drunk. How do you remember your lines? Remember remember we had Seth on here Seth Rogan and and I I said Seth do you ever work stone and he goes I've never not [laughter] >> I I don't know how that's possible.
42:44>> Me neither. >> Yeah. >> Will do you remember when we were doing um the increasingly poor decisions of Todd Margaret. Such a long name >> to say but um I I was doing a scene with you and and and Spike Jones and and David. Yeah, >> I think it was just the three of you and and I and I I was um jetlagged.
43:04I just arrived over from London the night before and I every single line in my head just just went like everything. And and the more I I tried to think of the lines, the the more panicked I got until there was nothing. It was just like a blank nothing. And I was just standing in front of I'd never met I hadn't met you before like Spike Jones.
43:25Like the whole thing was >> right >> the wor it was the worst experience. And and in the end they had to just D cuz David was directing it as well, wasn't he? In the end he had to just like go, you know, we kept we haven't got it basically. Goodbye. We haven't got it. And uh and they had to do an extra day filming, an extra half days filming or whatever it was to get the scene cuz I I effed it all up so badly because my You know what?
43:53You know what, Sharon? I don't remember that cuz my recollection is always is how impressed and sort of I was I had such a talent crush on you. I was always like Sharon's so good. >> So I never I don't In fact in fact if you remember the only person I remember going up in their lines all the time was Spike Jones >> had to he got to a point and we were like I remember was sort of investigating I forget what the story was but he ended up he had a notepad with him.
44:20So eventually he just wrote down all this dialogue [laughter] on the notepad, >> right? And so we're doing a scene. We're doing a scene and you know Spike and he has his laugh is so funny and he's like, "Okay, so Bumble and he's literally pretending to go through the thing, but he's actually just reading his dialogue off the paper."
44:37And at one point he goes and he goes, "Um, so anyway, so I and then he goes, um, I um" And then he goes up and I just look at him and I go, "You're reading. [laughter] >> How are you going up on your dialogue?" But he's the greatest actor. I wish he would do it more. >> Oh, he's so good. He's so so good.
44:57>> My other recollection of that is do you remember Do you remember uh Simon the the sound the sound mixer who was actually I Yeah, >> he was one of the funniest, [laughter] >> right? And so >> I kind of had a bit of a crush on him. I I I think >> he was so funny. >> Yeah, he was handsome. He's the funniest mixer.
45:14And I remember one time we were shooting a scene. maybe was maybe we were in it and we were shooting on a stage somewhere in in in London and uh we're going through and there's some some sort of thing in the story and David's like hang on a second. Uh I don't think that that's right because the timeline doesn't so he sort of stops shooting for a second.
45:31He's like I don't think we have to change that because the timeline doesn't work on it. David Cross is going through it in his mind. He's like and I think that people will notice the timeline and then you can't even see Simon because he's just offsetting the sound mixer. You can just hear him go. He goes, "Uh, dear Channel 4, imagine my disgust when I realized the timeline didn't work out [laughter] and it [ __ ] that."
45:53He brought me to my knees. I was laughing [laughter] so hard. >> God, that guy. Simon, if you're out there, we love you. >> Oh, well done, Simon. >> Now, Sharon, when are we going to get you to the States to do a little bit of work? >> Uh, >> is it happening? >> What kind of What kind of work? >> Well, [laughter] Wait, is this how much you got on the menu?
46:15Lobster. Is it a lobster based lunch? >> I mean, um, >> what's going on right now? Is there Should I be embarrassed? There's something going on right now. >> Karen's got a new show that premieres September 20th. >> Uh, we're in the year 2026 called Youth, >> which I'm surprised I'm not part of considering my youth.
46:36>> Right. Exactly. Uh, but Sharon, talk to us about Youth a little bit if you would. >> Um, well, it's um it's on HBO. >> Yeah. >> And >> classy organization. >> All right. And um it's eight episodes half hour. Um, so it's kind of going back to it's more sort of along the pulling catastrophe kind of lines cuz it's kind of >> documenting I suppose a um um a certain period in your life and um like 30s was sort of misspent 20s and catastrophe is like having young kids and you know
47:16trying to stay in love with your partner and youth is about kind of someone slightly similar to me who's in their 50s and they're their kid is leaving for college and their their their parents are kind of, you know, getting older and they're sort of it's it's kind of about the sandwich generation and how you kind of hit a point in your life when it should be about you.
47:34Like you should be out there, you know, living it up and and and sort of um >> you get overwhelmed with some of these other elements. >> Yeah. And it all comes kind of crashing um down on her. And I kind of uh I I I sort of wanted to I I came up with the with the idea and the characters ages ago, but I'm kind of glad and then Bad Sisters came along and I ended up doing that.
48:00But I'm kind of glad that I'm doing it now because I feel like I've got so much more to say about that period in a woman's life. >> Did you shoot that here or did you shoot it in and did you shoot it in England or here? >> Here. >> Here. Sorry. Where where we are in the States. >> Sorry. I shot it here in the in the in in England.
48:20[clears throat] UK. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. And and and in Germany and in Spain. So, I shot in a few in a few. >> Sounds nice. Jesus. I'd like a nice arc on that. >> Do you know what? It's the first time I've ever You know when you shoot something and you're you're filming and it's like disgusting weather and everyone goes, "Next series we should like set it in Spain."
48:44So, I kind of did a slight version of of that even though it's just one episode like got to do that thing of like >> and have it all figured out. >> Yeah, maybe maybe after Did you get a taste for it or now? Are you like, "Hey, maybe my next character she just boy she loves Italy." >> I I should I should have actually cuz cuz it kind of we're we're we're kind of figuring out some ideas at the moment for where it could possibly go if we got to do it again.
49:09>> But if you did that, that would mean not living where you live now. What would you miss most about living where you live now and and and and the way in which your sort of your your your whole personal life is set up there? What what what what would you miss most about your your creature comforts? >> Um well I don't know about creature comfort like I' met I'm my brothers and sisters kind of live nearby and the ones who aren't in London are in Ireland which is also very nearby.
49:35It's like just over there >> and and so I think it's that I think >> she's pointing to her right just to force [laughter] >> but my my you know my kids are grown up now so it's kind of weird. So all those things that kept me in London >> which you know it was mainly that it was family but it's also I'm just not great at change.
49:56Like I'm not great at Yeah. >> No way. I mean that's so funny considering that you've had so much change in your professional life and it's all about change. Yeah, I know. I just kind of don't I mean I've had this same agent for like 25 years. I've you know lived in the same house. I I just kind of once I kind of settle into something I'm like this feels like a good place.
50:18>> When you when you go to the when you come to the States, where do you go? Where's your favorite place to stay? Where do you prefer? >> I I I actually have a house in uh Beachwood. Do you know >> Do you need me to go take care of that? >> It's very close to me. It's just down the street. Well, I mean I I get over when I can.
50:34I used to be there a lot more, but you know when you know after co and everything kind of changed like it used to be that you you used to have to fly. [laughter] >> It used to be you used to have to fly to to pitch ideas or do you remember [clears throat] you would have to just be in the room and so I used to be there a bunch for that but now it's all zoomy zooms and >> you ever walk down to Larchmont?
50:57You know Larchmont [sighs] >> careful here Sharon. Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. That's that's that's all I wanted to know. Near's house. [snorts] [laughter] >> It's like then Sean's going to be the guy outside of your house. >> A lot of people are talking about you. >> What are [laughter] the What when you when you come to Los Angeles and then you leave and you're back in England?
51:19What are some of the things you're not missing about Los Angeles? >> Not Not missing. >> Yeah. It's like, oh, you know, I don't miss uh such and such. I don't miss I don't miss hearing industry talk everywhere. I find it very disconcerting and [clears throat] >> and destabilizing. Uh you don't it's not like that here at all.
51:40Like you'd have to sort of seek it out or just spend all your days in Soho House or something like it's just for the most part it doesn't sort of touch you. So you get to just like >> Right. New York's the same way. There's so many different industries in that city. >> Yeah. What are the main industries in LA outside of like tech and and entertainment?
51:59Carpets, >> art, carpet, >> carpets, carjackings. [laughter] >> Pretty big. >> Yeah, that's really that's a real up uptick. Home invasions home invasions are Yeah, they're super popular. >> Homeopathy, dog grooming, obviously that's huge. Everybody >> posing at a coffee shop. That's pretty >> higheed car chases.
52:23>> Personal training. I I like LA though. I I like it as a place to sort of I think you I think I'm I'm like I'm fitter in LA, you know? Like I do more kind of wellness things. Like I look it's easier to be fit, >> right? >> I think you kind of end up just drinking a lot of green things and >> Well, you're What are you drinking today?
52:43You're drinking something orange. What is that? >> Electrolytes. >> It's It's actually my um um someone gave it to me. >> Okay. >> Oh, so you not sure what it is? >> It it Careful. Careful. Careful. Don't drink. It's a zuki. It's called a zuki. >> Uh, is that product placement? He I needed something to give me a bit of energy cuz I was worried that I was going to be low energy because of us.
53:06Thank you. Because of me cuz I've done a full day at work and I and I I didn't really sleep last night. >> So, I thought you're going to sleep so well. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's dig into this just a little bit. What happened with your sleep? >> E, will the mic I go I'm really up and down.
53:22I mean, I think it, you know, could be hormonal, >> but um but yeah, at the moment I'm not sleeping. I think maybe I'm worrying about >> what the show's about to come out potentially. >> Yeah. Your mind is spinning. Your mind is spinning. >> I keep waking up at like 4:15 and just li just like lying there and I keep putting on uh podcasts that that you know, >> put this one on.
53:43You'll go right right back. This This is >> Yeah, I have [laughter] been listening to you guys over the last >> We we got an award from the Insomnia Association for when [laughter] they found the cure with our bucket. >> Wait, do you So, I'm also I hate not sleeping at >> I think this is this is but it's our it's our age.
53:59I I I you know Sean has arguably the worst sleep hygiene of all time. >> Oh, that's that's horrible. >> It's going to get worse. But do you so do you now how do you do you try to like do you do you go to bed early to try to compensate for >> I I try like last night I was in lying down at 10:30 p.m. and I thought that that would be good and I actually took a CAMS last night.
54:26Do you know CAMS? It's kind of homeopathic sleep thing and uh [clears throat] >> kind of like melatonin or whatever. >> Yeah, kind of like that. And uh it still didn't I was like you know it took me ages to even get to sleep and then when I got asleep I I I >> Are you a coffee drinker? >> See this is the thing I am a massive coffee drinker and you know when you're in a writer's room everyone it's disgusting the amount of coffee you drink.
54:50So I'm definitely taking in more caffeine >> and you just need to shut it off earlier. You know like stop drink at like two or three. You can't have any after that. >> Yeah I But that's why I'm doing that. I'm stopping at like >> How about green tea? Try try green tea instead of coffee. It's a much better high.
55:07>> Yeah. >> Is it? >> Oh, yeah. It's not such a spike. It's just a nice steady. She just comes on thing, though. I like [clears throat] I like feeling a bit like >> you like a little I like that morning. I love that morning just blast off. >> Yeah. But in the afternoon, >> I talked to I talked to Sean this morning to give him [ __ ] about his internet before we did the the peakcast as we call it.
55:26And I uh and Sean said, "How much coffee have we had this morning?" Yeah, just [laughter] it was on. But I love it. I love it. >> But I love a crash. >> It's so It's intense, isn't it? It's like It's It's a proper drug. >> It is a proper drug. Do you Do you do um Do you ever do any sort of like sleep uh No, no, no.
55:44Like like um those like I I listen to like rain sounds. >> Uh I tried all that. >> You know what I do? But Sharon, try this. This is what I do sometimes. Sometimes I'll Google facials. Well, I mean that's >> So I'll Google somebody having narrow down Google. Yeah, I'll Google somebody having >> When do you say facials?
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Early life and drama school rejections

56:11>> I'll I'll Google somebody giving somebody a facial. >> Okay. I can't I mean you're we're really having a tough time here. [laughter] You don't need to annunciate it more. Okay. >> Okay. >> It's making it worse. and watching it. Watching it that like falling asleep makes me fall asleep like cuz I'll imagine my face getting you know what I mean?
56:29>> Yeah. Cuz of the relaxing thing. >> Yes. It really relaxes me. Try it. Check it out. >> Well, I've written it down. I thought you were going to Yeah. >> Oh, you want me to send you links or >> Well, no. I thought I thought you were going to give me like a a specific kind of >> Well, I do like the Japanese like Well, no, like Japanese facials because they they they really get in there and the person falls asleep immediately getting it and it makes me >> [ __ ] are we listening to on this
56:52podcast? [laughter] >> [ __ ] Sean's looking at people getting their faces rubbed so he can fall asleep, but we're going to lose everybody. [laughter] >> He's not going to. >> Love it. We try it, Sharon. get back to us if it works. In the meantime, thank you for being here. >> Sharon, you're the best.
57:12>> Sharon, you are the best. >> We God, you're so good. You're so funny. You're so such a talent. HBO uh is premiering Youth >> on September 20th with the incredible Sharon Han, whom we adore. Uh Sharon, thank you for taking the time. We hope you get some rest. >> It's really nice to see you all. >> Great to see you.

Sleep troubles and facial hack

57:32Thank you so much. >> Hanging out in Beachwood. Come on back. Yeah, do it. Well, yeah. I think in October or something. Game night. >> Game night two. Let's break. >> Game night two. I wish everybody >> I'd be first in line. Watch that movie. >> First in line for game night, too. [snorts] >> The great Sharon Han.
57:50>> Love to you. Love to you. Bye, Sharon. Bye. >> That's a great Sharon Han. I know. >> One of one of Britain's great exports. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> She's she What was the name of the I I watched the show many many years ago. What was it? Starts with a C. >> Catastrophe. >> Yeah. Catastrophe. She's so good.
58:09>> So, [snorts] just super talented and um >> and you never see her acting. She's very real. >> So, Right. Exactly. Always. >> So, she's so funny. And it was one of those when we were when I knew she was coming on and I was thinking like, what else is she? And then I was like I remembered uh Game Night that she was in that and I was like, ah.
58:27And I relived I don't want to >> go back into game. God, I love that movie. >> I want to watch that again. I tried to watch it with the girls. uh I don't know a year or so ago and we only got through the first five or 10 minutes and they just started looking at well cuz they were looking cuz they were looking at me like dad why do we have to watch your [ __ ] like we want to watch something else like I or at least that's what I thought they were thinking and I just started to just get all sort of like
58:52cringed out and I was like you know what let's let's turn this off sorry guys you know like well they'll watch it >> by the way I've done that I've done that before with the boys too >> what am I doing you know >> um but fall trying to fall asleep with the facial is a good trick. >> Yeah. But how did you discover that hack, Shnie?
59:08>> Yeah. >> Um I don't know because I because I always fall asleep if I get a facial. I'm going to get like a few a year. But you know, you know. And >> she thought if you watch somebody getting a facial that and like literally that was >> Sharon calls you and goes, "You changed my life." >> That's right.
59:21I'm waiting for the I'm It's going to happen. >> Huh? >> She's going to call me. >> Right. >> Anyway, >> JB, do you have trouble falling asleep? >> No, he's asleep now. >> You You know You know what? I for me the best thing for falling asleep honestly works like virtually every time is I just I listen to a really cute little la by >> oh that was a beautiful beautiful end there I didn't even see it coming by >> smartass [music] smart
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