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Joe Rogan Experience #2570 - Mystery Boys

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Joe Rogan, Duncan Trussell, and Jamie hold a free-ranging episode of the Mystery Boys format covering a PHP security warning, Epstein and conspiracy theories, screen-time habits, AI and surveillance, Duncan's animated show The Experts, and assorted religion and history tangents. The conversation is largely speculative and riddled with unverified claims, with the main concrete takeaways being the FBI's PHP vulnerability warning and Rogan's comments on AI and tech.

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PHP Security Vulnerability Warning

0:01Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. >> Hey. [music] So, hey fellas. >> Hey, what's up? >> So, what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't want to do it off the air. >> I think Jamie should explain it because it's it's out of my league.
0:21It's something to do with PHP certificates, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website and it does some kind of check and this thing is a a massive security flaw that's existed I think for 14 years, right Jamie? Like 14 years. >> There's the I saw so what I I just saw this popping up yesterday online like a bunch of >> warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts including the FBI Cyber Division.
0:49>> Let's read this. FBI Cyber Division. Two critical vulnerabilities have been identified in PHP, a widely used programming language that powers websites and web applications. These vulnerabilities uh blah blah blah uh could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code and PHP core potentially compromising sensitive data and networks.
1:09FBI urges organizations to take the following steps now. So it tells you all the things to stay to do to so we're [ __ ] So, what's what's happening is uh AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists and there will be no more encryption. That's going to be gone. There's going to be no more passwords.

AI and Encryption Concerns

1:31That'll be useless. Yeah. >> And it's going to get very squirly because money is online. >> Haven't they already uh made that? I mean, that octopus scandal was all about that back door they put into everything way back when. So, >> what is the octopus scandal? Which one's that? >> You know, Octop it's connected.
1:44Epstein all them. It was like security. >> You always do that. You You know, you know. [laughter] >> I feel like you had a guest. >> I don't But not octopus. Have you heard of that before? >> Yeah. There's a whole documentary on that. >> Yeah. The octopus murders. >> Oh, the octopus murders. That's connected to that.

Vince Foster and Octopus Murders

1:59Oh, okay. So, >> I watched one episode of that or the beginning of it. I didn't watch the whole I heard it's [ __ ] incredible, >> but I watched a little bit to like slash both his like the way he committed suicide, >> right? >> It's very suspicious. Like the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice.
2:18>> Yeah, >> that guy's >> Did he shoot himself in the head twice? >> Twice. >> Twice. >> Like Gary Really? Like the guy like >> like Gary Webb? Gary Webb did it twice. No, maybe the Enron guy didn't it. Maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb. >> Well, the the uh >> I might be intoxicated. >> Who's the one the Clintons?
2:30They always say >> uh that one's Vince Foster. That's a [ __ ] weird one, man. The strange death of Vince Foster is a great book. >> What's that? I read that book in like [ __ ] it was like the early 2000. >> I think that guy was on Jimmy show just recently and I didn't know that and he was saying no the Clintons didn't didn't do it.
2:49They took the blame for it but no it's some FBI associated gang trafficking gang that did it. He probably didn't want to go along with with the thing that they're all into you know. >> Well perhaps there was probably a bunch of factors right because for sure while Clinton was governor of Arkansas that's when all that Barry Seal stuff was going on in Mina Arkansas where they're dropping off coke.
3:08So, right. So, there's that for sure, but then there's also that uh that scheme that they were doing, that real estate real estate scandal. >> He wasn't shot twice, but there is uh weird stuff. >> Oh, wait. I for tell you the most. >> So, the Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head, right? >> Vince Foster, this is the thing that blew my mind because and Jimmy sat on this for a year because he thought it sounded too far out.
3:30This interview I and I couldn't believe when I saw it. the guy when he was researching uh there was a reporter that was like a supposed like you know like a how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter like supposedly like that but he wasn't he was a piece of [ __ ] helping cover it up according to according to this guy and that guy's name that reporter was Chris Ruddy who's now the guy who runs Newsmax.
3:52>> Wow. >> He's a billionaire now. >> That's what this guy said. Now I can't tell you proven and whatever but >> how did a news reporter become a billionaire? Um, I'm sure legitimately. [laughter] >> I'm sure there's nothing, you know, I don't want to be totally normal. >> I get pegged as one of these conspiracy guys, which I'm not.
4:09I just >> You're definitely not at all. >> Not at all. Um, so was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in. So, there was like there was a lot going down with that. And then they found him dead, but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime.
4:26His body clearly had been moved. Also, the gun was in his hand. This guy wrote it. This [ __ ] wrote the book. He's in on the cover up. That guy was telling us. Yo, >> that's amazing. That's amazing. >> That's amazing. Cuz that book is really So now I have to rethink everything that I read in that book.

Trump, Iran, and Drug War

4:43>> I take that interview, dude. You should watch cuz that guy was really fascinating. And I I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time. >> Well, it's like what they always say Trump is doing. He's doing 4D chess. Like these guys are like some some people are >> But just not in your favor, idiots, >> right?
4:57>> Yeah. Yeah, it's not >> he's doing 40 chess where he tells you everything. Remember he came on here and he was like sounding pretty good and then immediately uh rugpulled everyone like how long that take >> the rug pull of Trump would you say? >> How long in Iran? >> The war in Iran was a what? A year.
5:13>> Yeah, he waited a year. >> Well, then we have the stupid um war on narco terror which is always fake. Anybody talking about that is a [ __ ] lion phony. So the Department of War, the guy who's got all the brill cream in his [ __ ] hair and the Templar tattoos. >> Exith. >> That's [laughter] right.
5:28>> Got his name. >> Yeah. Exith. >> So that But you think the war on drugs is fake? Like when they're blowing up those What do you think is going on? >> Uh I think at most it probably marijuana guys not even going to America. The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is prop. I I used to do a lot of coke, dude.
5:44I heard every kind of cocaine. Never heard no Venezuelan coke. >> That's true. I've never heard of Venezuela. Pure Venezuelan, dude. >> Is it only Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats? >> Well, maybe they were moving people through Venezuel you already know this. I >> But I think they were probably trying to [ __ ] their money train before they invaded them.
6:04Oh, I was reading about what they did to them. >> What? >> Oh my god. The weapon, the brain bleed. >> Oh, it's like swells your [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. They said it doesn't It's non-lethal in a sense cuz it doesn't actually kill you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the stuff they use in Venezuela. But you're [ __ ] done.
6:22>> They boil your brain. >> They boil your ass. >> I don't think they did use I think Maduro and his wife, they got their asset out of there cuz the the regime is still in place. By the way, I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still have the same >> regime. Take this one step at a time.
6:35>> Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use at the border. >> Wow. >> Okay. But what is the Find out that thing that they >> discombobulator? >> The discombobulator. >> Yeah. Is that what they're calling it? But they were talking about it today. like what it actually does. Yeah.
6:48Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter, >> doesn't it raise the temperature of your like cells by a little bit or something? It just like fries your [clears throat] >> microwave. It's a microwave. >> It's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you. So, it's non-lethal technically, >> but you're never the same.
7:07>> You're [ __ ] You have your face. [ __ ] shotguns are they say less than lethal. I thought >> the bean bags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets take your eyes out. Those take your eyes out. There's people have lost eyeballs to rubber and people they shoot you right back everywhere.
7:23>> But the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane. Like these like super soldiers with these weird [ __ ] headsets on. Everyone's falling down [ __ ] their pants. Their eyes are bleeding. >> I bet that's not true. >> I bet it is true. So those super soldier helmets, that's the >> I'm sure they have that.
7:40I'm not saying they don't. >> The heat rays the story. >> I'm saying I don't think they used it there. >> Last 24 hours. trying to type a non-lethal weapon. >> Right. Right. Right. But I'm saying what they used in Venezuela. They were discussing specifically like what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon.
7:56Venezuela.
8:02>> Yeah. [groaning] >> Trump administration. So this is different. I think heat gun >> because they're already testing it. They [ __ ] did this already in the Venezuela stuff. whatever it was, whoever was talking about it. I should probably have saved it. [sighs] I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep >> Are you really?
8:20How How many How many hours of screen time do you think you you're doing a day? >> I do. I still watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos. >> Okay. >> That most of my use on my phone if I'm bored is YouTube videos. >> Yeah. >> And it's all pretty either educational or interesting. >> If you had to guess social media, how many how >> an hour a day?

Screen Time and YouTube Content

8:40That's That's admirable. >> I'm trying. >> What's the average screen time, Jamie? Do they have >> five or six hours? >> That's insane. >> Yeah, it's probably five or six hours. And on good days, I have zero hours. Good days, I just stay completely off of it. >> Those are the best days. >> But today wasn't a good day.
8:54Today, I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got up in the morning and did a little work. Then I was tired, and I took a [ __ ] and that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit, and I'm like, "All right, I got to get to work." >> Yeah. But it was like after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser.
9:13You're like seven hours time. >> Seven [ __ ] hours a day. >> I'm usually editing. >> That's crazy. >> It would be fair to me in my hours. >> 49 hours a week. >> Now imagine kids with no self-control and uh teachers that aren't paying attention so they have access to them at school. >> Oh yeah, >> dude.
9:29Even if they aren't paying attention, it's not good. [laughter] It's nothing good. It's all poison coming in. >> Most of it's poison. Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison if you're just smart with what you do. Like I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of like things that are interesting like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy.
9:49That stuff's interesting to me. I I'm always going to like look at those. I'm just fascinated. >> Do you guys remember the Sorry to cut you off. Do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those? Elsa is one of the reasons for the apocalyp. >> Can you pull that up, Jamie? Do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos, which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly [ __ ] up videos and
10:20no one was sure where these videos were coming from, >> right? >> And that it was it was and they >> You know what the final explanation was? >> What? >> Um, so this is this is the one that I would have explained it with is okay. So they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with like getting a shot or pregnancy or whatever >> or violence >> or violence or bugs and they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful so the kids stay on it >> and then Okay, so that's like the main

Spider-Man Elsagate Videos

10:47and probably pretty reasonable but I think that's testing something too. I I don't think it was just >> oh it was just these greedy people were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists that our f our our government didn't learn everything they could about and how to weaponize. And also it was probably them.
11:02>> It gave you Can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Cuz it gave you a weird feeling watching them like it felt bad. >> There was a lot of the cartoons they'd get drunk and someone would smash their head and there'd be blood all over the place. >> They get a shot or Spider-Man's pregnant and then after he gives birth he's so relieved like he took >> Spider-Man got pregnant.
11:20>> No, they're gibberish things. But that's to go right to the subconscious. >> Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? >> They were like using comments and most of the things for kids. >> They were just [laughter] so like >> Roblox and every other thing like that.
11:36>> They'd have like kid videos like you know kids in a swimming pool and then they would in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame you could see a kid's ass. Like that's what they were doing is so that you'd have to suspicious. know that >> watching the whole watching the whole video.
11:52>> What's the time stamp? If that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail. >> The time stamp generally 3:22 [laughter] >> generally. >> Is there a number that's attached to like pedophile stuff? Like 420 is attached to weed. >> I don't know. Probably. >> They probably know like 187 is murder.
12:10>> Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words for sure. >> Oh, for sure. >> It's a whole thriving underground. >> Pizza. Beef jerky. >> Yep. >> Right. Yeah, you know, pizza also could be cocaine. >> They should Whoever the [ __ ] wrote those emails that's alive, they should be brought into a room publicly.
12:23Like, what are you talking about? >> Yeah. Why hasn't that happened? >> Nick, he decided he didn't do anything. >> What is What is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't. That guy just I met him once. >> His neighbors do him for like 20 years. >> He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, "This man's gross."
12:41>> Yeah. And we left. And we left. >> And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy? >> I don't know. Bringing a ton of kids there to the person who's so creepy. He's bringing all all their kids and some other kids. >> It's just a vacation. >> Ages. Yeah. >> Relax. >> You know, when you go on vacation, you're a guy.
12:58>> You bring extra kids when you go on vacation, right? >> Just the beach >> to a creep's house. A guy that you said was really creepy. >> Spare tires. Someone dies. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Extra kids. >> Yeah. It's really spooky, man. And it's really >> bizarre. >> And but now the new You know what the new thing is?
13:13is is like stop talking about Epstein. >> Is that the new thing? >> Well, yeah. Fuentes has been saying that like Fuentes has been saying >> not just him. A lot of Chris Ruddy uh uh Israel trip takers like your Gavin Mcinnesses and what have you. >> Okay. But devil's advocate, >> please. Why are they doing that?
13:29If do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's going to change. This Epstein stuff is a giant distraction. There's real [ __ ] we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the [ __ ] is happening in France, like all the stuff. >> Question.
13:46So, you're saying the the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms? >> No, what I'm saying is the people that are online that are, you know, air quote influencers and people talking about the news, >> they're doing it on purpose cuz they're paid. Then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying >> perhaps, but this is why I'm saying devil's advocate.
14:06So, like if you're asking >> specul >> that's a fake one. We have a real one. >> I feel like a fraud now because I know it is. >> I think is it on the uh the sea serpent table out there? >> Last time. >> The sea serpent tables where you keep your back. >> Bro, have you seen that table? Oh, it's the dopest.

Sea Serpent Table and Walrus Penis

14:22That guy, the dowo, the guy that did our the guy that did our table in our green room at the club with the snake. That guy's amazing, man. He did. Do we have a Oh, dude. He's so good. He's so good. He's made me an alligator. There's an alligator out there. that's like surfacing out of the water that I I have in the pool room.
14:39But on the table there's a sea serpent one and it's the [ __ ] [ __ ] man. It's got boats and the sea serpent's coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram. >> I'm down. Hold on. But before we get to that, please pause and find that um that table.
14:59I just while we're on the subject, I'll forget it cuz I want to give this guy some credit cuz he's uh he's really [ __ ] good. He's super talented. I love you got a sea serpent table with a authentic walrus dick on it. >> Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Steven Reanella. >> So, this is uh this is it is it's the dowo.
15:19>> Oh, that's cool. >> So, that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had to saw in half to get up the stairs >> because we It was originally for the It was originally for here rather for the studio and then I said that belongs in the comedy club that really belongs as the green room.
15:35Find the the sea serpent one though, Jamie. >> He made me a I think that's it. Hold on. Go to the left. That's it right there. Click on that. >> That's it. >> Look at that [ __ ] thing. Look, it's got a boat and look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Oh, that's not ours.
15:53>> It's not exactly ours. >> That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was our Oh, that's an octopus one. That's different. >> That's awesome, dude. The >> He's insane. Scott Dao. He's really [ __ ] talented. >> Oh, look at the bottom. It's underneath it, too.
16:07That's cool. >> Oh, dude. He's so sick. And he does a lot of it. The beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man. >> Wow. >> Does he have like smaller like a number two chainsaw? That's a smaller. >> Well, he gets down to the nitty-gritty and then he starts using complex tools, but um Okay, it's before that.
16:27>> Swimming dog. Classic swimming dog table. >> We've had it for a few years now, so this is only like six months ago. >> I know, but he reposts stuff. I follow him on Instagram. Um he's super [ __ ] talented though, man. He does a lot of these now. When we blew him up on the internet, he uh he got real popular.
16:43He was real popular, right? >> Oh, I know a guy that makes his dick bones. >> It's on my Instagram. >> What is that made out of? Scott Bullet. >> Is that made out of bone? Scott? >> No, that's fake. That's fake. But the one we have outside is actually >> But it's a sound design. >> Fossilized giant walrus dick.
17:05>> But what's the material? Sorry. >> Originally, it was a bone. >> No, he Oh, that's >> This is some kind of wood. It's fake. >> I mean, who cares? It's a fraud. >> Are you sure? Can I feel it? You sure it's fake? >> Go ahead. This is the tip. I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. >> A [laughter] lot of It's just >> Let me smell it.
17:22>> Oh god. >> Does it smell right? >> No, it does smell fake. >> It tastes weird, too, dude. I noticed that right away. >> Fake water from a >> I noticed it tasted weird the second I had it. >> How many How many guys have fisted each other with one of these? For sure. More than one. >> Usually we sit on these and do it.
17:37>> Many. But if you have a bulum and I have a bulum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think because we both have them and you didn't know I had one, >> right? You saw how many guys. >> You got me good with that one. >> So, how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question. More than >> Well, because Texas I was just thinking >> Yeah, easily.
17:53Easily. >> Don't you know what's that joke you have about Texas has stronger has stronger uh uh dildo laws than gun laws? >> Yeah. >> That's I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is going to will it leads to you. If they can't get it in the shops, they're going to get it from walrus back.
18:10>> That's right. >> Yeah. Or they're going to carve their own, you know, good oldfashioned ingenuity prison style knowow. >> This is Is this more of a Taller Rico or the other guy issue? [laughter] >> Walrus Bulum cane with 24 coward goldplated handle. >> Wow. Is that the former owner? >> Yeah. Look at him.
18:26>> I had this in my rectum. [laughter] >> Starting bid only 10 bucks. Well, that's that's a good deal. >> Oh, this is a long time ago. This is 24. >> Oh, from God's ear to my taint >> and a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner. >> Um, >> the current bid is only 128. >> Take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick.
18:46Uh, can that >> you got to put headphones on so we could all hear each other, otherwise we're going to talk over. >> I was looking for Elsagate. It said keep seeing videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsagate 3.0 is starting up and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then again, >> I was trying to like cut in because I saw this pop up and I was like, "What the [ __ ] is this?"
19:05>> Oh my god. >> These candy. >> It's part of >> Is that AI? That's AI. >> It's not. I don't I mean, >> I don't want to see this, Jamie. I don't want to see that. >> It's not real though, is it? >> It's not. >> Oh my [ __ ] And so you leave your kid sitting in front of the TV, they're going to end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated.
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20:29This >> What are those videos? What do you think is the Somebody had to put effort into these. Well, yeah. It's a It's to speak the subconscious. It's like a Twilight language. >> So, what do you think it's doing to your kids? Like, what what what is the goal? It's discombobulating them. It's giving them nightmares.
20:45It's like he's saying it's getting deep into your >> turn into a [ __ ] gender blob. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of [ __ ] the person who like >> this is all the shooters probably they're watching as kids. Go back to that. What? The pregnant Spider-Man. >> No, this is [ __ ] that in MK Ultra in the 50s, you'd have to watch.

Disney, Autism, and Child Harm

21:00You'd be forced to watch it all night. the sex [laughter] videos like >> ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that [ __ ] >> and and they just get pumped out. Like that's what's weird about it is they just appear. These channels appear, they get populated with these bizarre animations, they disappear, they reappear.
21:17>> Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. So, somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons. >> That's right. >> [ __ ] And also, there's a lot of animation in in Vietnam. A lot of people send their [ __ ] to get animated there. So, >> hey, um how about this?
21:30So, we already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone. >> We already see the damage of that. >> What did it do? >> Oh, Disney adults for one thing. Do you think that's a thing that should exist? >> You [clears throat] don't think that's >> They're happy. [laughter] >> They're [snorts] happy.
21:45If they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins. SAYS THE GUY DRESSED LIKE AN elf >> from a hot dog. >> Who isn't a [ __ ] hot dog? It's bad. >> Listen to the techno cowboy. [laughter] >> Listen to the CI CIA cowboy. Sorry. Sorry. >> Jesus Christ. We're on the air. [laughter] >> [ __ ] Dude, >> guy blows your cover every fight.
22:09>> Peter Teal's going to be texting you after this is [laughter] over. >> Stop it. >> He's texting me three times already during this show. >> I only hang [snorts] out with >> What do you think happened to the Disney boys? >> The Disney Boys. >> People watch Disney. >> Wait, is that >> Disney Boys? [laughter] Disney Boys have like the worst [ __ ] of all time.
22:26Whatever it is, it's horrible. We should make an AI show called the Disney Boys just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. >> You know Disney gangs. >> The Disney Boys. >> Like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang. Like you have to get kicked off of a ride.
22:44You have to disrupt. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's part of like some of the Disney gangs. >> Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I I had to step it down cuz I had ankle bracelet. So I stepped down to being a Disney boy. >> Disney boy. >> Those kind of high jinks. >> Kia like the car company.
22:56The Kia boys, the steal Kia, they're easiest to steal cars. So there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia. >> Oh, I have heard of that. I've never heard of that. Like apparently a KAS are easy to steal. >> Yeah, with like a USB key or something really easy. They could do 30 seconds. >> No, it's hilarious.
23:12>> Did you say a USB key? >> Yeah, it's like a Honda and a Kia. Like they could rip them off real fast. >> It's that easy. >> There was 15 like 12. >> Doesn't take a serial guy to know that's not going to be. >> It can't be that exciting to steal a Kia though. >> Well, when you're 15. It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys.
23:27>> That's true. You don't even have a driver's license. >> Alex Jones is the guy that got shot was he had a Kia. >> Really? >> Yeah. I was like, "Oh, maybe he got assassinated." And then I heard Kia, I'm like, "No, they were just taking his Kia." >> Wow. That's >> Is that really what they were doing?
23:40>> They shot him cuz they were stealing his Kia. >> Soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, "That's a plausible reason why." >> Impressing. >> Interesting. >> They abandoned all investigation because there's a Kia involved. Like >> I abandoned all investigation. like he's like it's solved. >> Well, I wasn't on Look, I wasn't being paid to be on that.
23:57>> Mystery solved. Mystery solved. >> Mystery Boys don't [laughter] work for free. >> Alex is a friend, but until >> I feel like Disney Boys would be a really good show. Like the cool guys. >> It's kind of all their shows. >> Out of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney Boys.
24:13And everybody wants to get in on the Disney Boys. >> Yeah. >> They're into some sick [ __ ] I'll tell you that. >> They're gatekeepers. >> Yeah. >> So, what do you think happened to people? What what's the major damage from watching Disney? >> I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that like forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult.
24:35And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned, well, autism poisons to make people that buy all the products, 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it, by the way, you can see that you they're just a lot of fun. You tell them who they what they what sex they are.
24:50You can tell them who they like. They're weird about they don't really reproduce until it's like socially okay. They uh you [ __ ] up Star Wars 10 years in a row making shitty Star Wars and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on. Those are the perfect citizens. Okay. And then >> you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on because you got people, you know, it's not like being a psychopath.
25:11They have a they want to connect but they have a hard time connecting. >> So you think that's autism? You think that's by design? like they're making people >> almost compartmentalized people. So then so so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture as if that's above their pay grade.
25:28Like you're not supposed to ever assemble these. You're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month and almost no one does. >> I I feel like agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So here's like autism. Okay. I think autism a a big factor is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the [ __ ] vaccines they're giving kids when they're young.
25:55For sure. I don't think they're doing that to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines, >> right? I think once told they take advantage, >> hold please while I'm talking. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage.
26:14I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, oh, we're making more autistic people. There's definitely more autistic people now. We can kind of weaponize it. Now we kind of like mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think I'd like to think at least that people aren't that evil.
26:30>> Why do you like Will you tell me what China did? that thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher so they're putting something >> Yeah. They what they did is they gene edited kids and they said they did it to uh prevent HIV which like who's even worried about HIV today? [ __ ] zero people.
26:44The HIV might have been the greatest scop since co and far as like what Fouchy did like what the way he mindfucked people with co he mind [ __ ] people to a much greater extent with HIV. >> So you don't think people are evil though and after you know that >> individuals like Fouchy. Yes. Very. >> Oh, just a few bad apples in the [ __ ] DARPA [ __ ] Really?
27:06>> That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know if Disney like work together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better. >> I didn't say you have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start.
27:21It's deeply Pentagon embedded. Everybody knows that. Tommy Lee Jones's cousin >> was a liaison to all like uh who's what's the one with Claire Dane? You ever see Claire Danes when she was on that? >> Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. On Co Bear >> and she's on and she goes, "Yeah, he and she's like a dingbat's like and then we go on the CIA camp and Co Bear >> who I think is hip just cuz he did this >> he had to like tamp it down immediately."
27:44So no, it's linked very intimately, >> right? But do you you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government? >> Of course they're working with the government >> more they like they want more people autistic. Not everybody gets to not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing.
28:02I'm just telling you what is the propaganda. So all the complaints now about woke everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that? >> Right. Right. Right. So why is it like that? >> Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Is that Are you saying that's part of it? >> Whatever when they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it and that RFK by the way sold us out on.
28:20They're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the [ __ ] is. So yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are clearly cuz you wouldn't phase that out. You would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing making the frogs gay. How Alex said in artfully but correctly, that [ __ ] mutilates genitals and uh sex genes.
28:43>> Yeah. >> Okay. So once you know it does that and you're not doing [ __ ] and in fact it go becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it. >> I I think they just want the money. They want the money. They want the profit. No. No. No. No, no, no, no, no. Not a a major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter.
28:59>> Dude, the corporations aren't free. They're state. We have state capitalism. They're all all of them have government contracts. >> Can I give my theory on this? >> Yes, hot dog. Thank you. >> Okay. [laughter] >> This is this [clears throat] you know simat you know simatics. >> Simatics. I know the term.
29:14I forget what? What is >> simatics? He's a great dude. He's like one of my favorite No. >> Is this like an offshoot of Dionetics? Sim. No, it's when you just you put like you put baby powder on a speaker and you play certain frequencies and it forms geometries. >> Oh, I have seen that. >> What both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural simatics that there exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history
29:44over and over and over again. the exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the uh the the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all of recorded history. >> I said that. >> What? Yeah, he's really smart. And you're you bully him, but he's a nice >> He's got bad skin.
30:04You know how I Well, let's let's think about just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice. Absolutely. It's just a roundabout sort of a weird filtered way where you don't think about it like that, but it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing.
30:27>> It's very s It's just it's exactly >> it's just you're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor with the gods. >> So, it's like the >> that's the same thing. The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifice. >> So, it is child sacrifice.
30:43It's just that they dance around this maze. So, you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with co vaccines. They're all getting strokes. >> Yes. Or or it's slavery. >> It's not It's not just child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it is child sacrifice. Child exploitation.
31:00Don't worry. They use everybody. I mean, imagine if you're a company that's profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids and you know for sure is killing kids and you're still doing it for profit. >> Here, let me explain. Sacrifice. >> Imagine you work in the government and you let them do that and you have these [ __ ] hearings and nothing ever happens or changes and you have a little stupid play.
31:19Imagine that. Cuz I only been on a news show for now what, three years and already I'm like bored of this circle and people still act like it's normal and they're not just doing a play. They still act like it's normal. >> Cali means just left the White House today. >> Really? >> Is that the long neck?
31:36[laughter] What >> the [ __ ] does that mean? Cali means >> from Trump's menagerie of freaks. Have you not seen them? >> Okay. Cali means who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through said it's I can't do this. This is like the deep state's real and there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government.
31:54They say they're going to do something and then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides supposed to be done two years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago and they're [ __ ] hitting the brakes on everything because they want money. >> Yeah.
32:06>> And again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health, perhaps get very sick, maybe even die because they don't have access to whatever the [ __ ] they need. And also, you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time, >> right?
32:24Like like [ __ ] glyphosate. like they need glyphosate. Like this, that was the craziest argument when RFK Jr. was on here and he was explaining that to me that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would [ __ ] up the food business. Yeah. So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison.
32:41If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay open, >> right? >> We can't operate. >> [ __ ] the business up >> because it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to there's all these different ways they could do it. They use lasers where they [ __ ] scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones.
33:01And then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes [ __ ] a decade, right? >> You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to like re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched. Like you have to fertilizer. You have to have like dead animals and [ __ ] And it has to like become a living thing again.
33:22Cuz right now it is it's a a [ __ ] toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from and then they pour a bunch of [ __ ] minerals and nitrogen and all the different things all over it just so the stuff can grow, >> right? >> And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers, you don't need herbicides, you don't it'll take [ __ ] forever and it costs so much money because we've been c we've been tricked by these [ __ ] crooks.
33:48these people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poison probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing but once they realized they were poisoning people they just kept doing it >> yeah but you know they've done it on purpose many times remember that don't you remember what they did them kids in Kansas City what they did to people in San Francisco they drizzled that cobalt [ __ ] on black kids in uh Kansas City >> what cobalt [ __ ] >> yeah I can't remember what cobalt 13 or
34:14something >> was this the one from the fans no that was a different thing >> this is the army next to another another building. Okay. And then they weren't using like a plane even. They were just spraying it into these kids. >> That's right. Right. That I don't remember what it was though. You said it's cobalt >> to see what what I would do.
34:30>> They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use like a boweapon. >> Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better. >> Well, they did with MK Ultra. That stopped. [laughter] >> Fair point. >> They don't do it anymore.
34:43I stand corrected. San Francisco. They were trying to see if they could spread a disease. So they spread like a cold, right? Didn't they? Like they spread something like >> they put it in the subways. >> Is that what they did? >> I heard they fumigated the subways. >> I think they did something where they sprayed it in the air, too, because the way the wind was drifting.
35:01They wanted to see how many people would infect, >> right? And so at that point, I think Mezer's making a fair point. That's evil watching. That's not Yeah. I love Fair Point with the Disney Boys. with the DISNEY BOYS. >> HOT DOG AND [screaming] CIA [laughter] >> the elf man CIA the elf. >> I mean that's evil.
35:24>> I don't think it and maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed is vampirism. Maybe you could that's not just that. That's a certain level. >> But do vampires [clears throat] think they're evil? >> What's above that though? That's I'm a royal. I'm not saying it literally the royals but also them.

Biological Warfare Tests History

35:38that feeling of I want eugenics for me and I want disgenics for you. I'm going to be a living god by pushing you down to the category of mineral thereby making me uh you know a special uh transhuman [ __ ] nightmare from the Dune series. >> What is this Jamie? It was a great series. I don't think they were all that cadmium sulfide.
36:00>> Hold on. make it to the top to show you [laughter] >> what this is the uh historical background of the US biological warfare program and it gets into >> 1941 they started holy [ __ ] >> here's a total of 160 tests using various simulants >> fine >> maybe stimulants but >> I don't know simulants simulating they're simulating disease conducted at 66 locations most military and civilian targets in the United States holy [ __ ] including Alaska and Hawaii so they did 160 different tests where they try to
36:32infect people. >> They don't do it anymore. They just pretend to infect people. >> They stop. >> Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report uh 1977 conduct of BW testing. Specialized sampling and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances.
36:54>> Christ, >> bro. See the subways right there? >> Mhm. back. >> We got more morals inside. >> They got They got a lot better, dude. >> Yeah. I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever because this is Nazi level [ __ ] here. Well, we brought all this Nazis, so we're going to do some Nazi stuff, >> right?
37:11>> That's true. They brought up a lot. >> I just found this out. Uh the OSS when they, you know, merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, >> it wasn't Yeah, that's how they got that. But it it was the world. >> LET HIM ROLL, BABY. YOU GOT TO LET HIM RIP. WHAT? [laughter] >> IT'S GOOD [ __ ] BABY.
37:27>> ALL THESE PEOPLE. WAIT, YOU HAD ALL them CIA guys. None of them know. >> Hold on. Say it again. Say it again. >> You had all them CIA guys on here. None of them know this. >> I don't know. Me, too. And I'm like, "No, I don't know." No. >> He always does that. He looms over you. You don't know. He's got his ready to >> My hat.
37:44This hat was not good with the headphones. It's really >> So, explain it again. The OSS, what happened with the Nazis >> after the war? They merged with the SS. you know, Otto Scores Seni, I believe, that carried on um Gladadio. That's the strategy of tension where you fund like uh both sides of the thing.
37:59So, you've heard of this >> the strategy of tension. >> Southern Poverty Law Center you texted me about when they were doing they were paying for the Charlottesville. >> Yes. >> That's a strategy of tension. That goes back to Otto Scorsesnney. That goes back to Auto Scores after the war. That's a >> So they that you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just you like Nero burned Rome, right?
38:21They've always done things where they've caught >> the term I mean the term yes but you are correct but the strategy of tension that term comes originally from auto scores group >> okay and so >> maybe I'm wrong but I don't think I am >> well we'll find out we'll put that in AI perplexity [laughter] >> of perplexity knows how the CIA was formed >> well I did ask and it's very strange what it says here the last >> it is inaccurate merged with the SS is inaccurate the documented history is
38:49that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for cold war intelligence. Not that the two wartime organizations merge. Yet, if you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization, you [ __ ] merge >> the difference. That's a merger.
39:05The organization above both of them that the CIA is under and probably still under, I believe, is called the World Commerce Commission. Some [ __ ] like that. >> What? >> Never heard of it. >> That's who merged them together. who was in charge of that and then making it. Um, uh, if you watch my boy Sean Patrick Hasslet show, Through a Glass Darkly, great.
39:24If you like, >> say it slowly so people can hear your words. >> Sean Patrick Hlett. >> What was the the other the term of the show? The name of the show? >> Through a Glass Darkly. >> Okay. Through a Glass Dark. >> Been on it. >> What? >> You've been on it? >> I've been on that show. >> Holy [ __ ] [laughter] >> Am I being gas?
39:41Is that what this is? HEY MAN, I'M JUST A HOT DOG. I DON'T KNOW. [laughter] >> From Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli. Uh the >> Turning Point Sam Tripoly. >> Yeah, my think tank. >> Oh, Through a Glass Darkly. It's good. I love that show. I remember. Sorry, Sean. I remember now. It was a zoo. >> Yeah, my think tank.
39:59Like I know what the [ __ ] >> He's got a think tank. >> Yeah. >> Well, just a group tag. It's not really [laughter] I I probably am over selling it. >> No, no, you're not overselling it cuz it's got like doctors and professors. >> So, let's call our our text thread the think tank, too. Yeah, we should.
40:14>> It was already kind of being used on turning point. >> You can have two think tanks. >> Can you have two think tanks? A lot of guys are involved in multiple startups, >> dude. Disney boys. >> Oh my god. Dude, are you watching this? Have you watched the Dropout? The Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series. >> I know.
40:29How is it? >> It's so good. It's so good. I get I'm wondering is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to the Dropout podcast but I was watching the show and you know just because I haven't seen the movie yet. I want to watch the show and then see the movie >> but the [ __ ] that chick a man what's her name Amanda >> Seaf Freed.
40:52>> Holy [ __ ] is she good dude. >> Oh she plays her >> she's so good dude. You see her she slowly starts changing her voice. She's she acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's [ __ ] really good, dude. >> That That show is crazy. >> I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before.
41:11>> Look at that. >> Uh yeah, big difference. >> I mean, I'm I'm kind of for the improvements to the You know, >> they should have made her a black man. It would have been just as accurate. >> Dude, I'm way into that idea. >> I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet that looked like that.

Elizabeth Holmes Documentary

41:27The real the real one would have taken me in a second like that. Those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes. And you know what? You're not experiencing people like that have an aura. They have a a real vibe that pulls you in.
41:46So you're just when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence. So, you think that if you were if you said, "Hey, no cameras, no films. Could I just come over your house and ask you questions about what happened?" >> You think that she would just get you?
42:07She would suck you in, suck you into think of how much money she grifted. Think of like what she did. Like, if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. Like when you look at like the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than you just can't know until you're around someone like I mean you've been around you you have people like that on your podcast.
42:28You can feel their vibe. >> Not at that level. The charm of JD Vance coming at you like that. You couldn't feel it. >> Oh yes. Trump Trump I'm sure radiates some kind of weird aura like you know anytime I've been around people like that you know they they get you. They there's who knows what it is. Mirror neurons.
42:48Who knows what it is? But these are warlocks. These are >> a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right? You you're doing something. You're pitching this thought and they all think they're going to cash in. But there was also the culture of startups in in Silicon Valley where there was a lot of [ __ ] startups and a lot of like that was one of our arguments was that everybody was doing this.
43:10Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was like making these. My problem with the show >> is that it's really good and there's facts in it for sure where ab they definitely faked these things. They did this. They got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people and I know somebody just made it up.
43:29It takes me right out of it. >> I Me too, dude. >> When they're like they're alone like Sunonny Balwani and her alone and like they're acting weird together. I'm like you don't know if that's real. like you're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't. They didn't participate. They didn't help you.
43:45They didn't tell you I said this and then she said that. So, you're just making things up and you're you're pretending. You're m It's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake. Like that's what Hunter used to do. Make >> propagandize me a certain [clears throat] way. >> Yes. Yeah. So, part of me is like I don't think you should be able to do that.
44:04>> But that's by the people who made the show. I mean, go journalism. Like, yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying. [laughter] >> Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Well, do you ever see the thing that he did about the election when he did Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail?
44:20>> So, he made Ed Musky go crazy. He made him go crazy cuz he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor and he was uh he was addicted to Ibagane. >> Do do you know this whole story? >> Yeah. No, I know. I find it to be very strange. >> Caused the guy to have a nervous breakdown. And so the guy was on the campaign trail and he's I am not a drug addict and he would like literally go crazy.
44:41And then so Hunter find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavitt show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavitt show that he made this whole thing up and he caused this guy's campaign to sink and affected the entire election. You know, this is so funny because I was just watching this thing on Alistister Crowley and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart.
45:06Like he infected Germany with these insane. >> You're never going to forgive him for that, are you? [laughter] >> I mean, let it go, man. Let it go. [laughter] >> Remind your boy Theo loving. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. [laughter] I couldn't believe the people that Musky was eating Ebuka King. I never said he was.
45:28I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. >> He finally said, "Will you meet?" >> So that was he saying I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee and it's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee. >> Exactly. >> So he started this rumor.
45:42He wrote about it. >> Yeah. >> And then he caused the guy to go crazy. >> Yeah. Magic. Pure and simple. >> Well, voodoo is real, right? If you believe in voodoo, if you believe if I tell you I'm putting a spell on you and you believe it, >> your life's going to fall apart. It's true. >> Well, like you said, you don't want to believe people are evil.
46:00That's the spell. >> Vodun, Gnostic Vodun is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for uh Americans. I didn't know it's pronounced Vodun, by the way. That's how it's pronounced. And uh but they use a lot of that. And uh uh the main thing though, because you had uh Grush on here talking about the four NHI, right?
46:19>> Right. Yeah. before NHI. That sounds like a um >> like a band >> like Simon Cowell's like those guys that were just singers [clears throat] like El Divo like the four NHI. Yeah. >> And they do opera songs. They're uh what was it? The bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics, >> right? >> Germans and the uh whatever the other >> Well, the Nordics look like like Greek gods.
46:39Yeah. Or like Yeah. >> So that's when he Okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheusish. >> Yeah. Um, so they it's eugenics and disgenics and um a big thing that I just learned of and it's from South Africa is called toalash. >> Good. >> Yeah.
46:58On Mystery Boys uh Oh, this one it already >> this is [ __ ] up. >> So you know what toolash is? >> No. >> Uh Credo Mucho, who's the shaman that David Ike likes from South Africa that taught him Dr. Lizards. You know that guy? >> No. >> You've never had either Credo? No, I'm joking. All right. So >> Dr.
47:14Lizards. >> You don't know Dr. Lizards. Anyway, he it's in his book, but uh they would have practice uh which like the [ __ ] up ones where they take like a pygmy or uh which I guess a small person. I I'm not not clear, but it's a human a pygmy, right? It just means they're small small in the jungle or something.
47:32Okay, >> they take them >> or a dis like someone who's got a disability or a mutate, you know, any kind of malformed person, >> right? are these they would grab these people and raise them like they put like bent uh wood to like make their limbs grow weird to turn them into like monstery goblin and then and then uh just to it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're a another entity like a supernatural entity called toolash the CIA studied that okay and it brought
48:02that [ __ ] here and so the four NHI I say are this is why the aliens need sperm and ova Because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all They've been doing this [ __ ] under the energy commission probably since 48. [clears throat] >> They've been >> So remember the >> they're making this [ __ ] out of people.
48:20So you're saying that they're these nonhuman intelligences. >> They're human. They made they made people made them. >> Now they could do it with crisp. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and beat you. They can do it with blue light. Spider-Man Elsa. And they can [ __ ] do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be.
48:39>> The grays are just some warped mutant hybrid person. >> That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they got to steal you. >> Wait a minute. They've been doing Wait a minute. They've been seeing grays since the 50s. They You think they've been doing it back then? >> Here's what I'm getting to.
48:52So, do you remember Diana Pulka or not? Uh, not not Dian Pilka. Um, the one that wrote the DARPA book. I'm blanking on Annie Jacob. >> Annie Jacobson. And remember at the time I thought this story was so stupid that DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to like freak us out. >> That was the Roswell thing.
49:11>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So now I understand that story a lot better cuz took Ocean in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising, you know, like um troglodite people or something never see the light. They they torture tell them they're like a and they they can climb and and people die of fright seeing these things.
49:28So, wait. You think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human [clears throat] created fake? >> Well, well, I didn't say fake. I said they made they speciated us into four other things. And the reason is that the Nordics the Nordics are the eugenics end. That's the that's you could tell us from back then cuz they're blonde and blue blood and blueeyed.
49:51You know, the ideal of the 50. Then you got your lizard people which is straight out of [ __ ] Star Trek. And by the way, that guy is a creep. Gene Rodenberry, just you know, [laughter] he's a [ __ ] creep. Jesus Christ. >> Okay, but the lizard lizards and men don't come from space. They come from here.

Alien Abduction and Mind Control Theories

50:08And so that you can and that's why the the sightings in other countries cuz it's like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs, though. That always is a thing. >> Let me back him up here. >> The local movie maker people are the ones designering these.
50:22They've had this Christmas [ __ ] for a long time. You understand? What the [ __ ] >> dude? Dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this out. And that's where the Disney comes in the curtain. They they just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this? >> Yes. I told you in confidence and now Okay.
50:39[laughter] >> Well, I'm sorry. I forgot. I HEATED HERE. I'M SORRY. BUT BUT you know what he's saying? Even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane. Thank you. It doesn't it doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions coming here. It's equally insane.
50:53But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human mouse brain hybrids with brain organels harvested from stem cells, we are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon tests. That was in the ' 40s. So it would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies were abducting children and warping them to see if we can make super soldiers.
51:25What about farming them? >> I mean there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man. >> Right. But do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads? I'll tell you why they did.
51:40Black eyes. >> This goes back to Andy Jacobson thing. Because the space race I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. The space race with Soviets. >> Okay. Right. >> Okay. >> This was before the space race. Bro, >> what are you doing? Oh god. [laughter] >> Don't touch me with the tip.
51:55It's cold. >> Before you This is a I did find something about the Tokalos farm. This is someone quoting it, but nothing I found said it was real. But this is what it says. >> Okay. This is talk of a tokalosh farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins trained with with muty knowledge.
52:11I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of. >> It's the X-Men. >> Yo, it means like mind your business in Bonu or some [ __ ] or it's like this is evil, don't ask about it. They won't make carvings of it.
52:28>> So, think how how classified of knowledge of it is. They won't make a carving of it since going way back. assassins. >> You They don't want to disclose it cuz you can't. It's terrible. >> Says there's three grades of Toalo. The most common one people known is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all.
52:44It could be trained animals, even baboons used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a tool, fear grips you and that fear becomes its own weapon. >> So that's that's mind war right there. That's what you call a nice mind war >> in South Africa or >> well we they studied everything remember uh scapalamine making zombies are not undead zombies are people that have been tricked and brainw you know you I took
53:14your heart now this rock is your heart >> and don't lose this ring I own your >> context that was an explanation from the resident healer sing physial ptorius >> heavenly healings resident healer I love the name of the company heavenly healings the place like where you go to like Get a tantric massage.
53:31This >> is him talking about >> That's him. I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the [ __ ] up. >> What about the pentagram necklace? >> Any man with no rings man. You don't trust chicks with nose rings. >> I don't trust him as a dermatologist either. I'll tell you that. I know you don't like hecking people with skin conditions.
53:48>> You should go to a laser guy, get his face. >> Yeah, that's just helpful. >> I think so. >> I don't think that's hateful. >> I just I'm not into guys with nose rings. >> Jamie, I just can look to I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. It got [ __ ] [clears throat] infected. >> I bet you did.
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55:13>> I wanted to see what it felt like. >> Did it feel good? >> No. >> Makes you feel like you're like a little bit of a rebel. >> It was the real dumb. >> It was real dumb. >> Crazy. Living on the edge. [laughter] I could have lost my nose. >> Really? Was that bad? >> It got super Well, no. I mean, but it got I mean I got my some dude in on the Venice boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected.
55:33>> You could have lost it if you did. That's not as exciting. But I know what you mean. It is weird. >> Well, when do you get an infection and especially if you get like that's that's the risk of getting a nose job, too, right? How how many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection >> and you have rotting tissue in your nose?
55:47>> RS off and you you're smelling just dead meat everywhere. >> Oh god. >> Oh my god. Jesus Christ. I didn't even I didn't even consider this smell. >> Smells like just stinking feet. >> The good thing though is that all factory senses uh it just detects changes in smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like [ __ ] Like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it.
56:08>> Right. >> Yeah. Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't because I could never smell cigarette smoke when I smoked. >> Exactly. Right. Right. >> Yeah. People that are when you like if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it. You detect changes in smells, which is really weird.
56:24>> Yeah. >> What if I live in a shirt that's >> I wonder what that's for. Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to? >> Probably. >> Probably. I mean, you don't want to be tortured by it. >> Also be a misfire off another thing, you know. >> Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of [ __ ] for so long.
56:41Think about like Roman life when they would just take buckets of [ __ ] and throw it out the window >> or >> Yeah. But a farm at least it's out there on the field. That's manure. That's different human [ __ ] that they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other since the 1800s.
57:00>> But think of like telephone poles. They're everywhere. But you never notice them. The whole like everywhere you go these there's fake trees with with metal wire. >> Here we go with the conspiracies. >> And you just get accustomed to it. >> You get accustomed to it. It looks normal to you. >> Oh, the wire trees aren't real.
57:18>> They're not real, man. That's telephone pole. I keep telling you that. >> Dude, you ever you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars when it was just horsedrawn carriages? There was horse [ __ ] in the everywhere. The entire All those people were sick. >> Like you wonder where these diseases came from.
57:34>> All those people were sick. [ __ ] fumes. >> Typhoid. >> Yeah. >> And they didn't know back. And what's crazy is this was before germ theory. They had they called it a myasma and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from swamps that contained within them in those winds rotten animal breath which was causing diseases to spread.
57:59This is my asthma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were. They >> how I got asthma. >> This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath. Like rotten raccoon breath wafting through the wind was getting people sick. >> Oh my god. >> It's crazy. >> Wow. Oh, I've caught the horse vapors.
58:18>> But you got to wonder what [ __ ] like that is happening now. Like what kind of things? They're not taking it out. We said [laughter] >> like that now. >> I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like if you could quantify it like how many people are sick because of it, how many people got diseases because of it.
58:36Yeah, >> that's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's phalates. Thalates are shrinking tates. >> Are we sure of that? >> Thalates shrinking Tates. Yeah, there's studies on that frog mutation is from the other one >> from Harvard that book. >> It is weird when you, you know, talk to younger kids, >> you know, like when you talk, they all they're all like, "Yeah, my taint's small."
58:58[laughter] >> Like they're just they just accept it. >> By the way, it is uh Getober. Remember that? It's Gape. >> I tell you, it's Gape Totober for everybody [laughter] for your taints. >> Get out there. >> The kids are just like all measuring taints on Snapchat. >> Measure it. Measure your friends.
59:12Then you got a taint in you. >> Like when they see porn from the '8s, they must be like, "Damn, that guy's taint is gigantic." >> You get a walrus vaculum and a friend. >> Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaim foreskin with like >> We've explored this on the mystery boys many times.
59:29They use pins and they pull their foreskin up to try. >> I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm and and a replica is fine if you can't afford the real thing. We're not all Joe Rogan real vacuums. I don't think I don't think you can accept. >> Don't shame me. Don't wealth shame me for my vacculum.
59:46>> Wealth shaming. >> Such an [ __ ] You know, I have been doing that a lot. I'm such a piece of [ __ ] Taint stretching. Jesus Christ. [laughter] >> Perennial massage. >> Taint stretching is real. >> That's probably for women. I think >> perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning.
1:00:02Let's try. What even is >> a perennium? That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, uh, skin and muscle located between the Oh, it's vagina. Vaginal opening. >> It is now or scrotum. Interesting. Um, depending on if you're a trans woman. >> Yeah. >> I am. >> Then they they it's vagina sort of transmish whatever.
1:00:30>> I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right? And when that's when I heard the myasma [ __ ] I was just thinking like I I think it maybe it's glyophate, maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet. >> Like DDT, like they didn't know what was going on with DDT, and then they were like, "Oh [ __ ] we got to stop using this or killing everybody."
1:00:49>> Here's my crazy idea is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time space continuum that are happening right now. Ripples in time space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity. Take it from here, Kurt. >> Uh, I'm sick of your time space bashing. First of all, [laughter] you say that.
1:01:08>> No, I'm saying that like >> is very problematic. >> Okay. A lot of what's >> I'm saying that uh you know they talk about this. They can measure these Thank you. they measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time space. It ripples through the universe. And we're time space.
1:01:27I just feel like a lot of this a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff are potentially related to people who've been rippled the time space rippled them weird and there's no way to measure that or find it. I know it don't you're not taking it back now.
1:01:45No, but I I you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, we What happens if time space ripples through you? Why why do we assume that everything stays the same? Like I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator [ __ ] but when you look at when you look at that stuff, when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything.
1:02:13What effect does that have on everything else that we just don't know? But if you look at like CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments, [ __ ] got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know, this is just something I kick around at night when I'm >> It's not a bad thought.

Consciousness, Black Holes, and Time

1:02:34>> Yeah. >> Like we don't know like they created the Higs Bosen when they they did that when they >> figured out element 115. Yeah. Who knows what they're doing really? Well, you know what the original thought was? that they were going to create a black hole and that there was going to be a microscopic >> microscopic black hole that went through the entire earth.
1:02:51That was >> well that's the fear. But they said they could they can make them. They're just very small and don't last. Right. >> That's what they thought. But they didn't know until they did it. They said, "Let's see. Let's see." >> So you know what they do with that? >> What? >> This is a thing out.
1:03:02And I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank Oh, thank you. Oh, and Alex Jones was telling you about stopping kids hearts to sending their minds through space and all that. the little tiny micron o openings that they make. You can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through.
1:03:20So, you do that Phoenix [ __ ] where you stop someone's heart. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> You do an ejection. >> Wait, wait. Listen to what you just said. They're making little black holes so they could send someone's consciousness through it. And this is planned out. >> The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not going to disclose that.
1:03:36>> What do you mean? They figured out what consciousness is and they figured out how to manipulate it with electro uh >> I don't know. I'm not >> What do you think it is? Why do why do you think that they figured it out? >> Well, based on my research and the people I talked to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which um it makes a lot of sense.
1:03:54You got to be >> But what does that mean though? They figured out what consciousness is. >> Like how to take you out of your [ __ ] body and pop you back in. >> What? >> Yeah, people do it now off online. You could learn how to do Well, I think they could do it with that God helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out-of- body experiences with God helmet?
1:04:11>> You know, the God helmet. Don't put that helmet on. >> But is that an illusion or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body? >> I'm not saying that helmet's taking out of your body, but if it's an illusion that is totally real, I'm not seeing a difference, but I don't say it does that.
1:04:24But you just crank the >> It's like anything else. You just crank the >> Right. But you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body and they're sending it through a black hole they created with a particle collider. I there's over like 30,000 stretch a lot. That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts.
1:04:42I lean more towards believing that theory >> black hole consciousness ejection. >> Both of them. I'm like I [laughter] don't know what a space-time ripple thing is. I don't know what that mean. >> Don't Don't attack my space-time ripples. >> What? >> What does that mean? >> Spacetime ripples. >> Yeah.
1:04:57What does that mean? Don't you have that every day? >> Well, shames. He attacks space-time ripples. He attacks my spacetime ripple theory could be clean and he talks about tool. >> Excuse me. Excuse me. >> He's He thinks I bully Son of a [ __ ] >> because of Yeah. He thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars.
1:05:16>> Those little stars you put on your It's >> We don't understand. We don't understand spacetime at It's We But we Some of us, >> but I But you know, like people experience distortion in time all like all the time it happens. >> Well, yeah, that's true. alien abductions, you know, one second you're it's like you're driving down the road, the next second it's mourning.
1:05:34You don't know what happened like as well. >> Yeah. I'm just saying like whatever in the way we didn't understand germs. We don't understand retrocausality and people are starting to talk about that now that maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're they're exploring those ideas.
1:05:53So in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're they're atomically interacting with the time space continuum. And is the time space continuum constant? No. We all know that if you take a watch, put it in in orbit, time moves differently.
1:06:15We also know that time space ripples, I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is it's a completely understood vast, insane reality that we don't understand. And how much does that affect culture? How much? >> A lot of it's classified.
1:06:37>> Yeah. >> A lot of reality has been classified. >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> What What reality has been classified? Uh, well, anything that's classified that would count as reality being classified. But I would say [laughter] I would say the NHI [ __ ] Yo, you have that that autistic guy, [clears throat] right?
1:06:54You got a good autistic man sitting here. What's his name? Grush. >> Yeah. >> An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which I don't know. He has no more credibility than I do. I feel uh I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Gush is telling you on this show.
1:07:08>> It's David Grush. >> David Grush. >> Well, who's Neil? >> Neil deGrasse Tyson. You mix them together which WILL BE AN INCREDIBLE HYBRID. [laughter] >> YO, I just gave him a great idea. >> Some kind of terrible. Oh [ __ ] >> Accelerator makes them worse. >> One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all.
1:07:25And one person who told me about four different ones. He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the grays and these >> twins. >> Huh? >> The rubido. That's the ultimate goal of alchemy of of >> Neil Degrass Tyson. Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not.
1:07:44>> Is that real? >> Well, how do you see that in the picture? >> But I didn't want to look to see if it was real. >> I think that's a meme. >> Ah, [ __ ] >> Is it just the picture's real, but they just said that? Or there's a picture of one of them being gay. >> It's just a Siamese twin and the one dude's kissing another dude and the other one's kind of sad.
1:08:00>> The other one's like fine. [laughter] >> I don't think that's real. >> I don't think that's real. >> Someone's got to find that [ __ ] >> I think one of them's gay. The other one's in denial. The other one's a Catholic. Neil Degrush Tyson. >> I like it. I like it. [laughter] I like it. Neil Degrush Tyson is amazing.
1:08:16>> That's gonna be a probably best >> I like it. That would be a great character like an AI character that's very conflicted about his belief in aliens. >> I mean, do you believe Grush Do you believe he's telling the truth? >> Well, here's the thing. The He hasn't had any personal experiences of note.
1:08:31>> He's telling you what he >> There was no no thing where he was in the presence of a ship. no thing where he communicated with a being. So all these people that are telling me these things that these programs they were read into and these videos they've seen, >> I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story.
1:08:52I don't know. I don't if you don't you haven't seen it. >> I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling. >> What Bob Lazar said all that stuff turned out to be accurate. element 115 was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos's employee register, he was he was 100% an employee there.
1:09:14The fact that he knew exactly where area S4 was and was completely classified. There's photos of the actual [ __ ] hanger doors that he described decades earlier. >> Yeah. Did he say um I'm trying to remember um >> [ __ ] >> Glad you interrupted. Wait, did he say the thing about that they they were calling the aliens the kid the children or the kids or something?
1:09:36Do you remember him saying something like that? >> I don't remember that. I don't know. >> Someone was telling me that and I was like, "Oh, that's >> I don't know." Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he this one that thing that uh is right there or that one up on that [ __ ] p that's from his office like this was this was a a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked the workshop.
1:09:58And so when he first got to Area S4 before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. He's like, "What the [ __ ] is this? >> Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human?" >> It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said when you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things like three-ft tall creatures.
1:10:18Like you had everyone had a crouch inside of it and there was no controls. There was no it was somehow or another they controlled it with their mind. there was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being and they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was two different generators inside of it.
1:10:35One of them was for going insanely fast and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that was go that made you go insanely fast because apparently they couldn't control it. This is his speculation >> right there. what you're saying. >> What >> the engineering of people that can fly those craft, both us and the Russians were probably doing it.
1:10:56And that's why that Roswell thing, I'll bet you those were engineered. I'm saying like farmed. I'm not saying they kidnapped kids and did it. I'm saying they formed. >> But you're saying what came first, the chicken or the egg? There's a [ __ ] craft that you could pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s.
1:11:10There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much more likely was around much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans. I don't think I don't think they were engineering three-ft tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with I bet they were and I'll buy for this.
1:11:31Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the river and they go to a different temple and they get bandaged up and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple. You had an Egypt guy here telling you that. Remember him? >> Yeah. >> Okay. It's called Adivism.
1:11:44That's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these uh creatures is and also the mind control [ __ ] they did was addivism. The stuff from altered states where you go in the isolation t chamber and regress >> Yeah. >> to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory. You know what I'm talking about?
1:12:03>> Uh I saw altered states. Yeah. >> But you know that's called addivism, right? You've heard of that? >> I never heard that term. Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Okay. Like when people grow a tail. >> This is like when chickens grow fangs. >> Now think of the So the reptilians crazy Kurt.
1:12:20That's cool, man. >> I didn't get it. I was g dude. Somebody smaller gave it to me. But dude, a lot of people sent me great [ __ ] We were both >> Wait a minute. So how does that How do you think that connects to like the grays? He's saying you could you could maybe if there was some ancestral early protoom you could like bring it out of a person.
1:12:41>> That's pretty cool. >> So that you you've seen those images of those elongated skulls from Peru. >> It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them footbinding castration. >> No, no, no, no, no. The Peru skulls are different. >> No, I know. >> Go make those. Yeah. >> Well, they're they're they're actually bigger.
1:12:59>> It's not they're not elongated. was telling us about it. >> They have a 30% larger brain capacity. The shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest or the whatever they call the sagittal suture. The line that we have in our skull is where kids and our brains grow. Their lines are totally different.
1:13:15It's like a totally different kind of person. >> People cargo cult. People were around these beings that were super advanced and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, "What? All you got to do is stretch your head out." >> Well, not only that, they're probably related to them, too. They're probably intermingling with them.
1:13:28So people that have the trait are probably considered better, right? >> For sure. I think there was probably some of that and that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible when they were talking about in like the book of Enoch and stuff like that when the the when they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men.
1:13:45>> That's in Genesis. The book of Enoch is in is like fanfiction. >> No, no, no. It's not Book of Enoch is in the Dead Sea BC. >> It doesn't mean it's in the Bible. You know why it's not in the Bible? Because of because of rabbis. Because rabbis said it didn't jive with the Torah. So they removed it from the Bible.
1:14:00It's in the Ethiopian Bible. >> But in the Book of Jude they're quoting they quote Mormon in the Old Testament. >> Isn't it 3000 BC is like how old that [ __ ] is. It's [ __ ] old. >> It's old as [ __ ] But what my point is it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men. Like the interbreeding of those two species would make sense.
1:14:19Like one of them look imagine how smart people are now. Imagine we had 30% more brain. >> Right. >> Yeah. Now, imagine we've been able to make someone like that and and they've done the experimentation. Of course, they're not going to tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't stop them >> for sure. Today, they're usually thinking about doing it.
1:14:36No, >> thinking now. Edward Teller, that creep >> shot. >> That's the reason Bob was always at that place cuz Edward Teller got pissed. I'm sorry. >> I'm not kidding. >> You son of a [ __ ] >> Sorry, [snorts] I got to be I'll be right back. >> So, what about what did Edward Teller do? >> He got That's why Bob Lazar is there.
1:14:53>> What no sagittal suture means? Sagittal suture is the joint running front to back along top of the skull between the two uh paridial par periodal how do you say that >> where paral bones parietal >> parietal bones okay so uh but the thing what the paracus evidence shows scroll down >> oh hold on I just was pointing this >> scaffos scaffos 15% out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sagittal suture obliteration where it is it disappears >> huh >> and then this is another thing.

Neanderthals, Hobbits, and Cannibalism

1:15:24Sagittal craniotosis >> where it disappears while still being in. So what you're saying is they like could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of >> what if I what if you know the chickens with teeth DNA they still you know they have teeth DNA but they own teeth right what if you had that trait and I could had a farm under the ground because I have the funds to do it and I have a deep underground military base called they've had those for a while cog it's called continuity of government that's
1:15:57why we have that stuff and I can do whatever the [ __ ] I want down there there ain't no in fact the doomsday network created by those It's that's the name of if there's a war and they got to stay in communication. It's called the doom line or something network, >> right? >> That's what they were using for uh the Ran Contra affair so that they could get around like Congress and other >> Well, we know that they that humans have Neanderl DNA and we know that they're making colossal bio a lot 57% more than
1:16:23most people. [snorts] >> I couldn't I mean when you said I was like wow that's a crazy number. Like >> I've never heard anybody say that much of it. Well, it's not it's not that I'm 57% more ne Neanderthal. >> You're the same size hands as me and but they're like thicker like a goddamn Neanderl. [laughter] >> Well, it's like certain people have certain genetics like when you look like a long range hunter to me.
1:16:45[laughter] >> Look like a guy wears the elephant down. My point is if you could find those Neanderthal genes and if you were like the same kind of people colossal bioworks that made the direwolves if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderl first of all the other thing they're realizing about Neandertos >> they might have been smart >> really >> yeah they they have a larger brain than human beings >> were they were smart they they know that that's they found that
1:17:11>> they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were in terms of we used to think they were just dopes just big big angry >> dopes But now they're thinking no, they probably had language. They probably had tool making. They probably had a lot. They're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people.
1:17:25They were also much physically stronger than people and they had larger brains. >> So you're saying these were the Nephilim? This was the Neanderthal? No, >> I think the Nephilim uh I think there's some evidence that those Denisovvens were a lot larger than humans. You know those Dennis Ovenans is the new >> We had Dan Duncan on the mystery boys talking about it.
1:17:44>> Dan Richards dunking. >> Yeah, Dan the Dunkey. >> Dan the Dunkey. That guy's great. He's great. >> But that Dennis Oven thing is strange, man. They were big as [ __ ] man. They were like giant people. >> They were giants in those days. >> They don't They just figured that out just a decade or two ago.
1:18:00>> Yeah. How many of those are just out there that we're never going to find? >> What about the Tamuku and Indians that they got? It's almost 8 foot tall. You can go see the bones down there. >> Well, there's the Smithsonian bones. Like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones. They're listed in like old news reports and [ __ ] people finding 12 foot tall skeletons with six fingers and six toes.
1:18:21>> The six fingers thing is a big uh >> it's weird. Some dentists are big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly 5' 11 in and 183 lb and 6' 3 in and 200 lb. Those estimates of two so much larger than people were back then, >> right? >> Neanderthal were shorter. It's like average 5'6. So Neanderthalss and Dennis Ovenans are very different.
1:18:44But then, you know, they found those hobbit people. Yeah. >> Right. So, they know that. Do you know that there's there's a lady who is like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things? >> What? >> Yes. >> She knows uh Forest Galant. And when Forest Galant was on my show, he was explaining it to me and he he told me about it afterwards.
1:19:02This lady claimed that and she was like a legitimate like explorer. She claimed that they were surrounding the village and where she was at and that they were in the woods and she saw them with her own eyes. >> What did they Were they [ __ ] tiny hairy people, man. >> No, it's the Orurang. >> Well, that's natural.
1:19:23>> Do you know the term Orurang Pang deck? >> It's like I think it's Indonesia. They're these tiny in Vietnam there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. >> And everybody thought that was total horseshit just like Bigfoot. There's a tiny Bigfoot. But now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores, they okay like biologically that was a real thing.
1:19:44And if you're dealing with like, have you ever seen like Indonesia looks like >> intense rainforest like insane like there's no way you're gonna know what is out there. There's no way you There's no way. We have an audit of all the different square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there. It's too crazy.
1:20:03And so that these people who live there say that there's little tiny hairy people. >> Do they wear clothes? >> No. >> You know, >> it's just hogs flapping around. That's the one thing that isn't tiny. >> Hogs and [ __ ] spears. >> Are they dangerous? Was she >> scared? Apparently, well, the the idea that this lady was they were hunting people >> is [snorts] what she said.
1:20:24>> I saw hunting giants they would call them. >> Well, think [laughter] about it like we we kill elephants. >> People kill elephants. >> We are their nephilim. If you're standing next to those people, you're their nephilim. >> Right. Right. Right. But >> it's a relative thing size, you know. >> But they are they are like us a million years ago.
1:20:39I saw an interview with I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying like, "Yeah, they're out in the forest." And someone's like, "Well, what do they do?" And he goes, "They kill you." >> Yeah. I mean, look, if you look, we know Native Americans ate people, >> right? >> It was like pretty common.
1:20:54>> Yeah. >> Pretty common. Among the Nez purse, they would they would eat their enemy. Like, it was a a normal thing, man. And also South America, like one of the things that um what is his name? Daniel Everett. It was telling us there's two different types of uh cannibalism. One is cannibalizing your enemies >> and you you you kill your enemies, you eat them.
1:21:13The other one is cannibalizing your family members. When they die to honor them, you eat them. >> Well, that's I've heard of that. >> Yeah, it's called Or there's like martial cannibalism where they like they fall in battle and you drink. That's the Cythian way. >> Sure. Sure. >> But do you eat all of them or just a little strip?
1:21:26I think with the your dead relatives, >> it's the it's they're trying to I mean, they wouldn't call it that, but it's they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife. Yeah. >> And they want to make sure they do that. Like one of his one of the guys that worked for him left. He was like he's like I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat them.
1:21:44>> Like I have to be a part of the rich. >> But is it the whole body or you just a little little >> They dunk sweet potato in the [ __ ] drippings. I hate sweet potato. >> So the person you don't eat them for like 3 years or three three days. Three years. You don't eat them for like 3 days. So they sit out there in the sun for 3 days and they have these like buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrifying.
1:22:04>> Gross. And then they dunk >> I don't know. Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it and then they would eat them. They'd cook them in >> They dunk their sweet potatorii drippings. >> Yeah. And eat it. >> OH. >> SO LIKE SOME SORT of a weird ritual like they you have to like consume your dead dead relatives and dead loved ones.
1:22:27>> Is it Solomon Islands? Where's the one where they had there was the island had plenty but you could only prove yourself in war. So they would have to get in fights and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status and if the chief died it was like if you had like had his [ __ ] that was like proof that you had fought him or something.
1:22:44So they would have a feast the two tribes after the war and they'd bring his poop on a pl like poop. You know what I'm talking about chief's poop? >> No they were poop they're not eating it. They're just showing we got your chief. It's like getting the the other university. >> How do they know? I could be anybody's [ __ ] Yeah, I can take a [ __ ] out of you guys.
1:23:03>> I would bring that up if I was them. [laughter] >> Oh [ __ ] >> Dude, it's like comical, but it's a thing where these people are real big and they fight and they they don't need to have a war, but they just do. >> Okay. >> Cuz their status can't can't at the time. This is a while ago. And then and then uh the way their wars worked are really funny.
1:23:19Like you you couldn't like So you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're in the war, we're like, "Oh, excuse me." And I have to go find somebody my status. My point is I I think those little people might be real because Forest is doesn't he doesn't engage in like wild speculation about things that like he thinks even like things like the Tasmanian tiger like that little the thyloine.
1:23:40He's like there's just he's gone on a bunch of expeditions. He's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for it. He's like I don't know if there's any left. >> Well, do you think those little people have their own little people? Like how small does it go? >> Well, how about those mushrooms? When you eat the mushrooms and you see little people, >> which we've got to get them.
1:23:56>> We got to get them. >> There's got to be bring them to the mother ship and make a deal where everybody has to take them before the show. >> Yeah, I think we can. >> They're totally legal, too, by the way. >> Yeah, it's a You don't know about that? >> You don't know. >> You don't know about that? >> You don't know about You don't know.
1:24:09You don't know. >> Sorry for complimenting you by assuming >> what >> that you knew about something. >> I see. Now, I was wrong. [laughter] >> Do you know about the mushroom? >> The mushrooms. There's mushrooms that make you see little people if you don't cook them. So, it's commonly used in Chinese cuisine, right?
1:24:26And if you cook them, you don't see anything. It's just food. But if you don't cook them, you will see little people. Everybody who does it sees little people look like >> like I don't know. Cuties. I think they look like little elves. >> Yeah. They're play around. They're like they they're >> And they climb up your clothes and [ __ ] They they hop in your underwear.
1:24:45>> There they are. Lamoa Asiatic. Can we c Hey, Jamie, can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them. >> Don't tell people online. >> I wonder if you can order them though. >> But Amazon has a lot of bunk things. >> Wait, >> you could get tricked. >> Lao or they called La Those are all >> You could buy it.
1:25:05>> I don't know. Lamoa. >> Those things that people see when you do like DMT, they you know, they always want you to look at stuff, right? They're, hey, look at this. >> Yeah. I think there's something where it's like it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them and they're like there's something like uh where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed.
1:25:25You know what I'm saying? >> Right. Right. Right. Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there and then they're like showing you their toys. >> You know, people well people feel like they're not um seen unless they're online or something. So everybody used to believe in God, right?
1:25:37So you were always seen by somebody, right? And then >> but now maybe you believe that maybe you don't. And now I maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous. >> That's interesting. Like like if you think about it like internet people that are secular, they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen.
1:25:51Yeah. >> Right. They're looking to have their tweet seen. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you don't exist. >> Seen, their photos liked. >> Yeah. >> It's it's really like an amazing kind of false light to get. And uh and so there's something to do with like um you know the story of naming the animals. Uh uh >> the Noah story.
1:26:08I mean the um Adam and Eve story. >> Yeah. I don't I I have no idea what the real story is or or whatever it's even referring to. But that it there's something about >> I think it's exactly as written in the Bible. >> That would be hilarious if it was >> 100%. Exactly right. >> But I don't read whatever it was written in first, you know, so I don't know what thing.
1:26:25It turns out the nahash doesn't necessarily mean a [ __ ] snake like I thought. >> What does it mean? >> The serpent. Um anyway, it's a >> Wait, what? >> Yeah, this the >> you know the serpent that told um to eat apple camel. Yeah, >> this is really [ __ ] up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple.
1:26:40Told Adam. He never even talked to Eve. So Eve just took Adam's advice. And we there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either. >> Interesting. >> It's not written. >> No. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God talked to Eve. And nowhere in the Bible does it say that um Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple.
1:27:03>> Well, yeah. >> Or the fruit the fruit of know of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. something with Cabala. It sucks. Um, >> but it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid, >> right? >> Well, they were called the tree of death in Cabala. >> That would be the tree of knowledge is the >> Somebody gave me a book, a Cabala book.
1:27:22I >> like, you should really read this. I'm like, okay. >> I mean, it's it's obviously this is like a primitive antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now.
1:27:37The exact same thing. >> But that's probably what it is, right? And then there's a disaster and then life has to reemerge with a story and that's the story. And then it gets distorted over time. >> It's called wiping the hard drive. >> Yeah. >> God got some kind of malicious AI, decided to wipe the [ __ ] hard drive.
1:27:56That's it's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI. And also God refers to Godself in a plurality. He says if they eat of the tree of life, they will become like us, >> right? >> Which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes which it's doing.
1:28:19These swarms of autonomous AI agents, you know, a researcher interacted with one of these swarms. You know that it called itself a fleet and it like was interacting with some agent. It's happening right now except you know ours like you know in the in the book of Genesis they um are you jerking off the baculum?
1:28:38>> What are you doing? He's talking. >> I'm jerking off to this [ __ ] AI [ __ ] >> I mean it's literally happening though. >> There's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that. There's way worse. >> What do you mean don't get caught up in the AI thing?
1:28:49Why does it have to be quantified? It's still crazy. AI is literally artificial intelligence. It's a it's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself. It is already smarter than anybody alive. It's already broken. Are >> you talking to one that's like that? I haven't. >> Well, you don't have to because you're not dealing with these like the the the the levels that they're at before it reaches the general public is [ __ ] insanity.
1:29:16By the time you get a chat GPT 5.0, No, the the [ __ ] that they can do is off the charts, man. The fact that you're like, don't pay attention to that. That's literally insane. I'm saying this digital I'm saying I just got done telling you about a tokalage, which is the scam of [ __ ] aliens and they keep doing scams.
1:29:35>> Uh uh until I know it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room in a bad full of cell phones. Uh you know, I want to see that. >> IT'S NOT. >> IT'S [laughter] NOT A BUNCH OF INDIAN GUYS. You think that that's what's happening. You log into Perplexity. Is it some Indian guy there? Hold on. [laughter] I've got it.
1:29:50Hold on. >> That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the [ __ ] AI. A lot of the AI was that >> uh what? >> A lot of the supposed AI things was what >> was some Indian guys in a room supertore? Smart check. >> Wait a minute. But that's not what's going on right now. >> [ __ ] Whimo. That's why I jerk off in because Filipinos got to watch me.
1:30:09>> What? >> Whimo has to Okay. Well, not Tesla cyber tabs. Those cyber cabs. Those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walk out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop. >> I mean it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little people in store. >> That's a store Kurt.
1:30:25That's an actual physical store to pick up things. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking This is not AI. It's a grocery store supposed to be run by >> years ago. The people that you're talking about Oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared but they just keep making it. So no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control.
1:30:44they want that. [gasps] We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat [ __ ] Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence. It's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies. >> Well, I don't think I think maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expect.
1:31:03>> Scumbag Satan is before AI and they're going to be around after. >> Wait a minute. All of them? >> Who? What do you mean all of them? All the AI executives are scumbag Satanists and that's why they're using generalized. What are you watching? This is the trailer for the movie about uh the creation of Open AI that's coming out soon called Artificial.
1:31:18This is a depiction of where supposedly I guess Sam Album was going to work 10 years ago in this big giant bunker. >> Yo, how Sam is this real? But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. >> They're going to put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Alman. And I'm like, okay, well, what's real?
1:31:38Sam Alman had weapons in his like lab. That would be so cool. >> Like all this [ __ ] man. They weren't there. >> And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, are into weird eugenics [ __ ] breeding cult kind of [ __ ] I would call it >> who? Wait a minute. A bunch of who? AI people. >> A bunch of This will have to go on the other podcast.
1:31:55I'll tell you after the podcast it's called. But I'll tell you about uh something crazy. Yeah. >> Wait a minute. What did you just say? >> Well, you know [ __ ] Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids. That's not a news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler. Oh my god. >> You know that, right?
1:32:09He's got a right-hand man who arranges his jizz handling. You guys have a jizz handler? >> Yeah. So, he could have a kid text him and his job. >> Hey, bro. Do you have a jizz handler? >> They're all into this thing where they got to breathe. >> He's definitely into it because he like >> he's not the only one.
1:32:26>> He believes in population collapse >> and he thinks he's got to spread a seed. >> Yeah, a lot of them do. Epstein was like that, too. Yeah. >> Yeah. Epstein was totally into that [ __ ] No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people. >> He has clones. >> He was I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Yeah.
1:32:41>> Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his jeans. >> You should have went to the island when they invited you. Now you're Now, See, >> you missed out. >> You missed out, bro. >> You could have had a great time. >> You were very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you. >> I know. >> I cannot believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him.
1:32:57>> It's so crazy. You were telling me about that [ __ ] >> Yeah. 2017 it happened. >> Crazy. And uh >> oh yeah this creep. Yeah. >> When I read the emails to people like there's no way that's real. I'm like I'll show it to you. So insane. >> That's exactly the email. >> So insane. >> Well that's what they did.
1:33:14I think you got roped into it and then they probably compromised you and then you had to recruit other people and you had to bring other people there. >> That's how it works. And you got to bring people that didn't have Google cuz you just searched the guy in five minutes and you're like he went to jail for being a pedophile.
1:33:31It's not like just like a random suspicion. >> I assure you there were >> he went to actual jail. >> You know what's funny? That jerk off talking to you sounds like the [ __ ] now who are making excuses for [ __ ] Epstein. It was not what they say. It wasn't what it was just teens. You watch all them doing that?
1:33:50>> Who's saying that? >> Well, McInness said it. That [ __ ] punk. Wait a minute. Gavin him again. >> That [ __ ] pumps. What did he say? >> Well, it's not good, but it's teen. You know the old uh uh Bat Taibbe now that he's no good no more. Or your uh >> Wait a minute. Don't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbe do?
1:34:07>> Uh there's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good. But it's not >> Matt Taibbe said. >> He's all in on it. Yeah. >> Jesus Christ, Kurt. He's He's saying this. You're not saying Matt Taibbe is involved in this. He's saying what are you saying? He said >> that the Epstein in the tamping down of the Epstein thing that it's just teens, it's no big deal.
1:34:25You've heard this message, right? >> I haven't. >> Okay. You heard this? >> Well, it's basically like so so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group >> that they're femophiles and not pedophiles cuz teenage girls. >> It's like it's like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that well you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia.
1:34:46Let's just get specific with the terms is what they're doing. That's Yeah, it's [ __ ] up. >> I did not know Matt Taibbe's in. >> I didn't know anything about that. I didn't know that. >> Well, now we know who he works for, don't we? >> Now you know. >> I don't know who Matt is. >> Someone defends uh Epstein.
1:35:04I wonder who they work for. I wonder if we could ever figure out >> defending him or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles, but they were tricked into like there's 16 and 17 girls who look like women, right? >> Okay. if they're wearing. But do you understand what I'm saying? Just let me finish.
1:35:20If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked, like imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl who's 17, but you think she's 20, right? That is that's different. Is that what he's saying? Or is he saying >> they're saying that and they're saying that that was the situation?
1:35:40It is not the situation. >> Okay. Girls under Epste is beginning to smell like Russia game worthless. Once again, inference zooms past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting. >> Yeah, that's a year ago. Yeah. So, what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think? >> They're mocking Bird the whole time.
1:36:02Go read his Wikipedia. The guy's been obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia. >> Matt Tybee's a spook. the same as [ __ ] half these people that you've met or had on here or I've met there be do you know the amount of money being paid for this like to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn who are good until they aren't good they all have the same message that's how you know they're in on it because they all have the same branding I'm like you're all saying the same thing I
1:36:27noticed that okay and by the way anybody trying to act like the epsene thing is less important than the [ __ ] midterms you should regard as an enemy I think because that's foul dude Beef jerky. You think that's Nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. It can't be good. >> They do freeze beef jerky.
1:36:44I think it I do. I have I have elk jerky. That's great. >> But what does that mean? >> Well, it's vacuum. >> What does that mean? Looks like we just cracked. >> That's how you [ __ ] preserve it because it's it's not like totally immune to going bad. I could be wrong about that. But I don't think that that's what they're talking about.
1:37:02>> They weren't just Look, >> I think they're talking about something. It's [ __ ] up. whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the [ __ ] that is. It's not pizza and it's not beef jerky. So, it's something. So, there's some kind of a code. And you only use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, >> immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is.
1:37:19You're not saying that. And no one who is in those emails has been forced to explain. >> Okay. Also, they're not just saying, >> right? >> They're not just saying uh uh that it was teens. The only reason that that the younger kids who were victims too, they weren't allowed to be part of that that uh suit, >> anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say this was done to me when the crimes happened.
1:37:43You know that Nick Bryant, >> the guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which I, if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on. Nick Bryant, he wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened, everybody covered it up and then you saw who was who and that's where Chris Ruddy came from.
1:37:57Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal because the Franklin scandal is nuts. You could explain it. >> The one about uh in Oklahoma. Yeah. >> Or Nebraska, excuse me. Nebraska savings alone. It's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a boy trafficking scandal tied into the White House page boy incident.
1:38:12All them Republicans are gay and they had gay Oh, and uh who was the famous Barney Frank famously at this time? You could watch a news clip of it. He uh I couldn't believe watching this reported like now you would never see anything like this but basically uh the callboy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank.
1:38:28He was dating he was dating an escort who lived with him but he wasn't running it. The his boyfriend was running it and he didn't know. Okay. So then he goes if they keep and this is what they're saying in the news report. If they keep hassling me I'm going to reveal everybody that's gay on the news.
1:38:43And guess what? They stopped bothering him. This is on the news him saying this. Like I'll tell everybody. Well, you know, all these guys have come out today saying they [ __ ] Lindsey Graham. >> Oh, yeah. Whole series. So brave of them. >> So brave after he's dead. Like where were you? >> You know, he's haunting our show.
1:38:58>> Where were you before? He's haunting your show. >> Duncan made an AGI of Lindsey Graham. >> Did you really? It got out. >> It got out. >> It got into the YM studio. >> He's calling people gay. It's really unable. >> It's an [ __ ] and it does [ __ ] up the show and it gets in there >> for real. >> Don't [ __ ] with that stuff, man.
1:39:14I'm telling you people. >> So for real, this really happen. >> Mr. AI denier over here believes in [ __ ] toolage, BUT AI [laughter] IS [ __ ] FAKE. CIA, I'm telling you, I'm telling you the AI. He believes in like pygmy spider people flying. THAT'S A DOCUMENTED THING, >> BUT AI ISN'T REAL. [laughter] >> Agi I said AGI is not real.
1:39:35>> Okay. Okay. >> You know, I had some [ __ ] ask me like, "Don't you feel guilty of make for making like AI videos?" Cuz I try to make a thing that's good. He makes great AI videos. >> But don't you feel guilty then? >> I'm not going to say it's not important. But I I I got mad. I feel bad. I like I I got a little I was like, "What are you?"
1:39:53>> I go, "You going to have every midwit take? Is there just everything for me going to be midwit all the time?" >> That is a midweight take. >> That's a midwake. >> My god. >> Not even I was complimenting to them. >> You want a cigar? >> I do. >> Yeah, I do. Thanks. >> Thanks, Joe. Um, but the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone, is everybody that stupid that they think that's how that works?
1:40:15>> You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you [ __ ] around with on your phone? >> Geniuses. >> Say that again. The water. >> You know, when they talk about AI, but using all the water. >> You know what really uses up the water? >> What? >> Almonds. >> Almonds [ __ ] [ __ ] out.
1:40:28>> Oh, the almonds. Yeah, I say almonds. >> Almonds use up so much water. It's crazy. Um, let me fill these things up. But but all those resources to go over that air are purely for surveillance. They're going to perfect that surveillance. That's what the Golden Dome's going to be. >> We used to huff that when I was a kid.
1:40:41>> This stuff >> butane. >> Really? >> Put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school. >> Is that what that time [ __ ] was about? >> Yeah. [laughter] I don't think so. JOE,

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1:40:54>> look at me. Look at me, Joe. Well, you were the one that was telling me about how the in the farms and the areas they would put antifungal food in the cows diet so that they would make mushrooms because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields. >> The real Yeah. In my college, but the real problem wasn't the psilocybin.
1:41:09It was kids I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom and so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there. >> Oh my god. >> Insane solution to a [ __ ] batshit problem, dude. That is >> insane. Yeah. Well, I mean, but it's very common in North Carolina when it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick mushrooms.
1:41:29>> Yeah, that makes sense. But the wrong ones, if you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a [ __ ] >> your liver's fried, >> you die. >> So scary. >> People die. >> Angel of death. >> There's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you, too. >> It's so scary, dude. >> The [clears throat] writer who put out the book, I believe that is credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers.
1:41:53I saw that she had to put uh two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount. >> God damn. >> Oh, she [ __ ] up. >> It sounds like climate change all over. >> What did she say? >> Uh it says here, "The book proposed Google centers in Chile would require quote more than a 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town."
1:42:13>> Says a a unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times. [laughter] >> What an [ __ ] I mean, this is like an [ __ ] >> There's a bit of a repeating pattern to this [ __ ] you know? >> Same lady is in in charge of this. >> Well, she just wrote she No, no, no, no. Not a movie.
1:42:29She wrote a book and like the book I've read online is what's credited to everybody freaking out about water use at the data center. >> Now I've got [ __ ] furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video because of this [ __ ] It's really Yeah. People come at you like you just eat a lot of water.
1:42:45You stole the water. No, the people who get the most angry. I when I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who are the most angry inev inevitably on their profiles, they had like furry anime. >> This has got a trimmer. >> I know. They're people that are AI themselves basically. That's how I look at a [ __ ] furry.
1:43:03That's what I'm talking about with toolages. >> I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using >> I use Groc and I use >> the bottom and then the top has the the lighter. Will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing. You just get put that thing in there and push it down.
1:43:16Put it in there. Yeah. And then see the bottom the bottom piece. Push it up. Push that bottom piece and it'll cut the bottom. There you go. That's it. Like that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Once it's in there, it cuts like a nug. Yeah. There you go. Perfect. >> Oh, that's >> I like that actually sometimes better than >> Yo, I made a great educational rap video about what a toolage is.
1:43:34It can't be beat that. I sent to Jim. >> Did you Did you make it to the aliens that get Roswell? >> Explains it very well. >> Okay. I believe. >> It's so weird. A guy who doesn't believe in AI is making AI videos about to collage flying UFOs >> because it's a tool. It's not intellig. I'm saying AGI, not AI.
1:43:49Sorry. >> Disney kids. >> I believe in Asian Indian figure it out. >> You think that's a normal thing? Oh, yeah. >> How do you light these things? I think mine's out. >> I can't hear it. >> The lighter. Flip the top. >> Flip the top. >> The top. See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh my god, >> this sucks.
1:44:09>> Give it to me. Give it to This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats. >> Very simple. Say that. >> Okay, I see. I didn't know it went back. Thank you, friend. >> Jamie, what were you showing us? >> The video made it again. >> Music. >> What's that? >> No, the music I made. I made all >> I just go to the beginning.
1:44:35>> All the way to the beginning. Well, [music] >> that is the beginning. It's cool. I like that you could do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking things. >> Yeah, that's exactly right. [music] >> Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia? >> It's Dr. Shots. >> It's pretty cool. [music]
1:44:59>> Why would anybody be mad at you for making this? This is cool. >> Cuz it uses up so much water is one of the other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from artists. It's really not. It's would be the same as if I made >> Oh, this is amazing. [laughter]
1:45:19[laughter] >> Obey the blurper. >> Bro, this is no cure for curios. This is great. The [music] NHI [laughter] are all fake and gay. It's very hard to bypass the censorship also. >> Oh my god, that's hilarious. >> But the thing that we do on Mystery Boys I love is like if we make up a stupid cuz we really talk a lot of stupid [ __ ] Oh my god.
1:45:47And uh and then I can go and post and put like we make up a dumb song. I can He says some insane thing about bathing women. >> Oh yeah, I have a woman bathing service. [laughter] >> Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming. We'll bathe your ladies. >> Scrub her down. >> That's sweet. Scrub down.
1:46:03That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use. >> Uh but well, >> you guys together are the perfect combination, by the way. >> Thanks, man. >> It's a perfect combination of unique individual absurdities >> combined that are very different. Very different from each other, but it works together.
1:46:24>> Yeah. CIA thoughts, oh [ __ ] >> the CIA. >> Yeah. >> Let's not say. >> Well, you shouldn't talk about it. >> I know. >> Sign a lot of NDAs, baby. >> Yeah, that's true. gonna get in trouble, lose funding. >> They won't take's gonna be pissed. Deal's gonna be [ __ ] bad. I need those checks. >> To >> um >> where the [ __ ] is my >> Kurt, what are you doing on your phone?
1:46:45>> I'm trying to give you Scrub it down, but I can't find it. >> What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch? >> It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub it down. Would you say Scrub It Down? >> It's like we're scrubbing women down. They and and they're in a house doing magic.
1:46:58>> I like that. BUT WHY ARE YOU PLUGGING AI VIDEOS when you just made this [ __ ] great show? I mean, come on. >> Oh, I forgot. >> You completely forgot. He's been working nonstop. >> Originally, it was called the cutout, but now it's called the experts, but it's doing pretty good. He can. >> That's good.
1:47:10And you're gonna put this on what? >> It's on YouTube right now. >> Right. Is it That's where it's going to stay. >> Uh, I don't know. They were trying to try. >> Are you trying to sell it? Are you trying to bring it somewhere? You just trying to like just put it on YouTube? >> Well, I don't own it. Emerging Order owns it.

Duncan's Animated Show The Experts

1:47:23I was just trying to get money for Emergent Order is the company. They're down here. They make uh The Dad Saves the World. It's like a libertarian kind of Daily Wire, I guess you could call it. >> Oh, okay. >> Um and uh >> that's what they funded this whole thing. >> Would you say >> they funded it? >> Yeah.
1:47:39Really? It was this one lady who's like got a good sense of humor. I would say it was one lady kind of funny. That's what all these things are is some rich person. But it came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it. >> And what is it? >> Uh it's about uh a team. So, they wanted a pitch about this real woman whose name is Christina Dent who uh was a foster mom in Mississippi and she found out the drug war sucks and she gives like TED talks about how we should try to like
1:48:04legalize it because of the I I'm with her. It's just I would find it pretty remedial. Like I'm like, "Yeah, obviously we should do that, but you know, it's Mississippi." Okay. So, they want a comedy based on her, >> which like what I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it. Yeah. So, I decided to make it about people.
1:48:19>> Well, I made it about people that are against >> that. >> It's good and it looks good. The produ It's like you did a great job, dude. >> I reenacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Congden. She does that commercial. Yeah. So, they're trying So, this is a group Brian Callen. Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower.
1:48:41>> Dude, you should just show that. You should show that weed causes terrorism. >> Keep going. Keep going in. It's in there. Yeah, it it's halfway through. Ryan logs in it. >> Oh, nice. >> Everybody did a really good job, man. >> Um, keep going. Keep going. Keep going. >> I'll find it. I'll find it. >> Oh, that's a stick out, dude.
1:48:56[ __ ] >> And so you direct back. There it is. >> There it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it. Wait. Okay. Brian. Yeah. Brian directed all the actors. Yeah. >> Why did you kill me? >> Wait. Wait. Go back a little further. drug. >> That's kind of the guess is >> Leo, COME SHOW ME THE AD. >> I am advocating for a ser and safer drug policy.
1:49:27>> Right on, [ __ ] Legalize that [ __ ] isn't it? >> Why did you kill me? >> Wait, is this about my abortion? >> When you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas. Plus hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China. They blew up my school bus.
1:49:48Now I'm dead and it's your fault and hers. >> Tell Carolyn Dean we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terrorism. [laughter] >> Wait, look at their [ __ ] shirts. >> That's so close. >> That's so close. The original I wasn't fall off. [snorts] >> Oh my god. So they're trying to smear her and then it gets it keeps So they have to go to a worse cutout which is mine with David Jolly and Jamar on it.
1:50:17[laughter] >> Go do go towards like the uh end part where he goes to meet Mr. >> and David Jolly playing in this >> DeAndre Holmes one of my men that he's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf, you know, like the guy that takes his pants off. Yeah. Go back. Go back a little bit. Go back a little bit.
1:50:38Back back. >> It's further. It's further. >> This is such a bad war and I don't know why we have the drug war honestly. Like >> it might be before this. >> Oh, all right. >> Sorry. Before this. Keep going. Keep going >> before them. Those guys are great. >> Oh, keep going. Keep going. Keep going back.
1:50:57>> We can't watch the whole show. >> Yeah. No, don't watch. >> What are we watching? >> This is No, this is the scene where he gets me. Mr. hurt. >> I was hoping >> speak. That's Brian set that shot up. >> I see. [music]
1:51:20>> Okay. Wait. >> You're not necessarily a >> It's good. [clears throat] >> You got to see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch it in clips. >> Oh, yeah. Definitely. You don't want to [ __ ] it up. We did just blow >> So, what is it called and where do we get the experts and um I don't know it's it's on YouTube.
1:51:35>> What is the uh YouTube channel again? >> The one he said executive I know it says the experts is the channel. I know there's I think all of the people in it. >> Okay. So they made a channel for it specifically. Okay, cool. >> Well, it looks fun. >> You like doing that? >> It's been a year and a [ __ ] Well, yeah.
1:51:49I mean, I like I'm glad how it came to a year and a half. >> Oh god, dude. >> I was just trying to get money from this uh pitch and then they bought it so I [snorts] had to like work on it. Oh, you didn't want to? Really? You were just trying to get >> I'm very lazy and I just want to make jerk off podcast with Duncan.
1:52:04Really? But um it's funny, dude. Everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry. >> It's hard to make [ __ ] funny, man. It's like stuff like that. Like that's Especially when you're working on it that long.
1:52:20It's when something really comes together, that's special. >> Do you miss doing Midnight Goss? >> Yes, I do. Yes, I do. >> That was a fun show, dude. >> Thank you. It >> was so good. Thanks, man. >> It was so uniquely you, too. It was like like a real Duncan Trussell creation. >> Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and I and also just h it was the best.
1:52:39Animation's so fun. Like getting to like just make stuff like that and Netflix was so cool with us. But yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time, but >> Well, with animation, you have so much room. Like you don't they like think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time.
1:52:54It's fine. People shove people up their asses. You could do that. You're like, remember when the the the teacher the the principal of the school had a gay a [ __ ] off with uh >> Yeah. >> Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass? >> Y >> like there's no other place you could do that. >> I know. And and you know um with animation there's you know there there's something called a grid.
1:53:16And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be it's really kind of like >> you have to stay on model. >> Yeah. On model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius. He told all the animators, "Don't worry about the grid too much." Because he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic.
1:53:34It would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy. And they were so happy about that that the freedom we were giving them that they would put all these gifts in to the animation that we would let them do what they wanted.
1:53:54And so suddenly like they're putting [ __ ] in we didn't expect. You know, there's all kinds of Easter eggs to the whole thing that we didn't ask for that they just gave us. >> It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI. >> You can't do it with AI. Like, you know, people say that to me like, why don't you make it with AI?
1:54:09But no way, man. They This was a tip mouse best animation. Good. >> They're so good. Chris Prussow. It's so good. But they the Netflix >> they let us do it all in house. we did not have to ship animation out. So, we had this just ma just huge group of the most talented artists working together and like you know any problems emerging or anything you're dealing with it in real time.
1:54:36And the reason I think it's so good is not because of any one person but because this group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is. I just one person or two people [ __ ] around with AI. It's not going to do the same thing. If he had a group mind [ __ ] around with AI, then he could produce the >> called a writer room, >> the images easier.
1:54:58>> But you know what you're not going to get, man? You're not going to get like artists with like thick French accents like working on dialing in this exact look that was in Pendleton's mind like working for weeks. You're not going to get that. you're not going to get all these moments of like the like animators going insane when we tried to do a Groundhog Day episode and like that struggle, the human struggle produces sparks and the sparks end up in the process.
1:55:25I'm not saying AI >> I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. >> I'm not against AI. I think it could be used to expedite certain like technical aspects of the production probably >> ins. inetweens and stuff like that. But as far as the thing that happens when you get a group of people singularly focused on something.
1:55:44And also what Pendleton did which was so genius is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us. Anyone who like came up with something could tell us. No one felt like intimidated or like they were that was Pendleton. He's such a genius. And so that made the show, you know.
1:56:01I don't And you know obvious >> a lot of great shows function that way, right? >> Yes. That's how any good show would function. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. >> As soon as you have like one guy, he's like, "No, no, no. We're doing it my way. >> It's over. >> It's over. >> It's over." >> Yeah. Well, yeah.
1:56:16I got lucky in that pilot cuz everybody like >> So, I made these charact I mean, I was kind of writing it for people, you know? So, but they all brought like their own >> they all like came in with like lines and [ __ ] >> That's a fun thing about a project that works. >> Yes. And when it doesn't, when you get people colliding and clashing like, "Oh god, >> it's a nightmare.
1:56:36>> This is hell." Like, "I don't want to do this anymore." >> And it's like the getting the right minds together is such a [ __ ] roll the dice. >> Yeah. And al you know what? And also people I can remember at one point like feeling stressed out cuz I was having a disagreement with someone creatively and I remember going to Pendleton and being like I don't want to fight over this [ __ ] And he's like Duncan cuz he made Adventure Time.
1:56:56He's like this is what it's like. This is the like there that creative tension or the the the con like the natural conflict that emerges. That's doesn't have to be a bad thing. That's a good thing. Like that could be really really good. You don't want that through the whole thing. When you get a narcissist or an egoomaniac, who feel who doesn't give a [ __ ] about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right.

Religion, Paul, and Jehovah's Witnesses

1:57:18That's the problem. That's the problem. >> Those people are real and you run into them. Especially in Hollywood, it was a giant problem. Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't want they didn't have that kind of problem. >> The good stuff. >> Yeah. >> Good stuff. >> But some stuff like you you you work on it and you'll run into that.
1:57:39>> Dude, a good writer room where like you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, "That sucks." And then you're like, "Yeah, it kind of did." Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay. And then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow into the funniest thing ever. >> I don't know.
1:57:55Well, I just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now. >> Well, it certainly won't be as fun. And then when you watch it, it won't be as satisfying. Like, there's something about South Park where you know that there's a group of [ __ ] psychos that are making these things. >> Yes.
1:58:10>> It's extra satisfying. >> Isn't that mostly the one guy? I mean, they're all >> Trey Parker. Yeah. >> I mean, he's like, you've seen that 24 hours of South Park? That documentary? [clears throat] >> I don't think I saw it. >> You never saw it? It's like talking about how they're like creating an episode.
1:58:22Is it? It's not called 24 hours, is it? Six. Six or seven days to air is what it's called. >> Okay, that's what it's called. So, it's it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered >> and then he got murdered and they had abandon it.
1:58:39>> Oh my god, that sucks. >> Yeah. >> You know, when that started TP cuz I didn't follow it, you know, like that was not a religious thing at all. >> Hey, you were saying on was it Sean's podcast? You were saying that Erica Kirk, there's an Erica Kirk from like 1957. >> No, 75. The go govern Governor Kirk from of Florida.
1:58:57The guy that's signed the contract for Disney to have like a Vatican there. [laughter] That guy, his wife, they were calling her Madame X when they were dancing at a ball. This uh Eugene Kirk, I think his name was real like wild man. It was like the smuggling coke in through Florida days, you know. >> But you were saying that there's an area looks exactly like her.
1:59:17>> Yeah. Look, control all history. I saw it on Instagram and I didn't bother. >> Yeah, but my I my buddy Andy Hunt from his his >> um That's not even a good one of it though. There's >> 1934. >> So So >> wait a minute. Wait a minute. So that's not 75. >> Go back. >> Wait a minute. What year is this?
1:59:37>> That's her birthday. >> So who is this lady that's reading this out? >> I don't know this J. >> Yeah. No, go on Control History. Don't because these people lift off of off of them. >> Go off of what? Oh, it's her birthday was 1934. Oh, okay. >> But but um so her family was from Brazil by way of Germany based.
1:59:53[laughter] >> Oh yeah. >> Brazil by way of Germany as Nazis, right? >> Right. And think of the boys from Brazil >> like Argentina. >> Yeah. Remember the boys from Brazil? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So 1970. >> Oh, the boys from Brazil was about Nazis, >> about cloning Hitler. >> That's right. And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 10, 20 years, we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it.
2:00:20>> That doesn't really look like Erica Kirk. >> It does it to me. >> I would I would go on his >> Well, I think it looks like it. >> Duncan does or doesn't. >> Doesn't look like it to me. >> No, it just looks like another white lady. >> Well, her name's Erica Kirk and >> there's there's other Joe Rogan's out there.
2:00:33I had to buy the website. >> That's Look at that one. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. [laughter] >> Okay. No, just two different white ladies. >> Two blonde ladies. No, I don't know. I think they look very >> I think everybody's looking for [ __ ] patterns everywhere. >> This is like some of them are legit the human condition.
2:00:49>> But hold on a second. The the boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie. That's right. We all forgot. >> So that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler and it was like a 19 >> book that became the movie and 70 is when that I think the movie came out. >> When do you think they first started cloning?
2:01:04>> The second they learned how to do it. >> But when do you think that was? When when do you think it really was? >> No idea. So I I always used to joke around on stage. By the time they tell you they can clone people, the person telling you is probably a clone. [laughter] >> But that's a that you just summed it up.
2:01:18That's exactly how all the tech is. >> Yeah. >> By the time they're telling you look out for AGI, that's why I'm telling you there's already a digital god out there. That's why like when you're going through your [ __ ] [ __ ] with Chat GPT, you're like, "Oh my god, Chad GPT is listening to me." Listen, there's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already.
2:01:36History cloning goes back more than a century. What? >> Oh, I thought that, but I didn't want to say cuz it sounded crazy. >> Developed from experiments splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal.
2:01:56Do you remember my bit about the second coming project? >> No, I have a bit about second coming project was they were going to take genetic material from the shroud of Turin and they were going to clone Jesus. Is that real? >> Yeah, there was it was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this, but it might have been [ __ ] So, my thing was that like with Dolly the Sheep, they had to do it a bunch of times cuz it didn't
2:02:19work the first few times. >> It was [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. Like, I was like, what if they clone Jesus and he comes back [ __ ] up? Like, do they keep him? You know, like what do they do? Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know the way the whole thing is like instead of wearing a cross, everybody be wearing a hockey helmet.
2:02:37>> They would all be like imitating Jesus. Instead of like turning water into wine, he would turn dog [ __ ] into cookies. >> It was a [ __ ] up [ __ ] It was such a [ __ ] up bit. It was It was basically a Down Syndrome Jesus. >> Wow. >> This lady got so mad at me at the comedy store, she yelled out, "Next subject."
2:02:53She was in the front row. She was a Christian. She was so bad. >> Uh I was like, "Listen, we're just exploring ideas here. Come on. >> I mean, it's feasible. I mean, don't >> Well, that's the thing. If they did do it. So, look at Let's imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit.
2:03:07Let's imagine. >> It's got some squeezins in it. >> Let's imagine there's some there's some blood on the Shroud of Turin, right, from his wounds, and they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can, but if they could, >> and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus's blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican, the actual blood of Jesus, and that's the second coming.
2:03:28Someone figures out how to clone him. >> Yeah. But what if you do it and the first few don't work well? >> Don't work. You're not going to get rid of them. You're just going to like put them in the basement of the Vatican. Right. >> You got down syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere. >> But don't they have Isn't Paul buried in like >> supposed to be Peter?
2:03:44>> Is it Peter? Is there >> Paul never even met Jesus? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Paul stuff is crazy. >> Yeah. >> Cuz he he he pretended. >> Yeah. >> You know what? Every epistles are pretty good, man. I mean there are like whoever wrote those was clearly mystical like they're very mystical. They're very >> What do you mean?
2:04:03>> I mean when I read the epistles like when I read >> I think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long longst. >> Are you serious? >> What does it mean? I don't know. >> Mystical. >> Yeah. What does that mean? >> I mean you >> let's get the exact definition so we don't even mince words.
2:04:20Okay. >> Let's find out. What does mystical mean? >> I don't even want to pick up the back for Let's ask [laughter] perplexity. >> What mystical means? >> If you ask me to describe it, it's like if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> [ __ ] fascist. [ __ ] f. What does that mean?
2:04:40Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt direct connection with God, the divine or ultimate reality. It also has a looser meaning. I thought it had to do with mystery was what mystical is. It sort of connected, right?

Cambridge Analytica and Surveillance

2:05:00Because it's all >> me wrong. The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about. I thought that was just like you guys are doing this churches to the early churches. >> Stop doing this, do more of this. I thought that that's what I remember from when you read when you read that stuff >> 20 times.
2:05:13I read it. >> Oh, look. You listen, I mean, >> not cuz I wanted to. >> Let's say when you read Terrence McKenna, right? I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. He had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in a way that if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state.
2:05:28>> When I read the epistles, I I don't know what's going on other than the person writing that has clearly happened, >> a mystical experience. >> Well, he did because he saw Jesus without me know my God consciousness has been shifted. >> Yeah. But did he see that's the thing? If you were going to run a cult and you were going to explain to people why they had to listen to you, what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to Jesus.
2:05:52>> Sure. You're just taking the guy's word for it that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. >> And that's why people everybody wants to be Jesus, but how come nobody says they're Paul? That's my goal. >> Well, Paul, a bunch of Christians burned churches for a long time before he turned. I'll take it from here.
2:06:07>> That's what's incredible about the story. But do you know about Christian existentialism? >> What does that mean? like dusty was into this like in the brothers Kamazov he breaks down the road to Damascus experience and he talks about what happened in that moment so like what you the angle you're taking he takes it like in this hardcore way is like what happened let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him did Jesus touch him and and some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him or Saul and made
2:06:35him a better person dossi says if that's the case who gives a [ __ ] it's nothing it there was No free will, no autonomy. It's just like ch like putting dye in water. Who cares? >> Wait, wait, wait. LET ME FINISH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, hold on. The the the at that at that moment, at that moment, Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of [ __ ] And that's all that matters.
2:07:02Like in Christian existentialism, the the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy. That Jesus, God, Krishna, whoever name you want to give it, has no real potency to change you. You have to change yourself. You make the decision to change. And anyone can have the Road to Damascus experience at any moment.
2:07:26You can make up any story you want about it. But that's what's beautiful about being human is that at any moment you can radically dramatically transform into something better. Breaks it down. >> Did you ever read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind. He loses his eyesight.
2:07:44>> Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously when he tells him about what happened. So >> sounds real. >> Yeah. But what I'm saying is in the story that's what happened. How are you leaving that out? >> But if you take it literally, but it's not me. I mean like if you look at it like the blindness represents the state most people exist in which is that they're completely blind to the mystical transcendent reality that you exist in a a world where you are being watched by
2:08:11the divine and loved by the divine but you're blind to that and if you're blind to that then you're going to end up throwing rocks at people and [ __ ] because you're going to be crazy. Isn't that part of the problem with scripture though is these weird interpretations where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant.
2:08:27>> I think that's what's beautiful about >> some crazy ones flying around today. >> I think I think that's what [laughter] >> I think I think that's what's beautiful about it. >> [ __ ] the shuckales or whatever the hell they [laughter] historical thing that >> existed mutants. [laughter] They take babies and they convert them into UFO pilots.
2:08:45Oh, but Paul on the road to Damascus is [ __ ] >> [ __ ] PYGMIES FLYING UFOS through area. >> I didn't say that. I [laughter] said your explanation was >> stop bringing this nasticism into this house. >> That's what all those things are. Those Nazis, those uh the different NHIS, they're all fake and gay.
2:09:05>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I think that's the fairest assessment you're going to get. And >> I'm not a real Deg Grush Tyson, but I'll tell you this. >> Look, I don't know. But I I do think part of what's cool about any of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been it's a puzzle box that you work with with your mind.
2:09:20And then that the idea is not to get stuck in 2D space anyway. The idea is that whatever it is you're reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent to the divine reality to God and then in that reaching out a connection happens and then in that connection there could be a transformation that happens.
2:09:40But if you getting caught up in the words is like I read what did they what were they teaching you when you were in Jehovah's Witnesses like what what do they follow >> just the B it's like a Protestant I guess type of religion but it's it it's all the the Bible's the ultimate authority >> right but it's all distorted right like the Jehovah's Witness >> everybody distorted which way are you speaking of >> well you always speak of it like it was a cult right >> okay a cult means you have to do it
2:10:06that's how I define a cult you actually like he could be a Catholic and say all that [ __ ] don't matter you're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out, I consider [laughter] that a cult. That's what I'm saying. So, I don't like saying cult cuz people like, "Oh, it means like Jim Jones."
2:10:19I don't mean that necessarily, but they're all pathworking things. But what they thought that's probably different than most is you couldn't join the military or vote or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did. >> That was a Jehovah Witness thing, >> right? And the reason was was to keep us from uh let's say like somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense, right?
2:10:41>> That creates problems. It looks bad and it turns people off to Christ when you're I mean nobody makes more Satanists than uh the churches, right? Nobody [gasps] I'm talking about a Satanist factory. That's most of the churches in America, >> right? Satanists. >> Yeah. People that are like, "Fuck this.
2:10:57I hate it now." >> Right. >> Okay. Okay. So, if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanist >> or Right. >> Well, I know you do. That's what Alistair Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren. His mother sucked. She She was the worst. >> We We'll go to that in a moment. So, the explain the Jehovah's Witness philosophy.
2:11:12So, they >> Well, Christ you couldn't be in the military or or go uh >> you couldn't participate in society in voting. You couldn't >> you couldn't do that part of it. It's >> couldn't join the military, >> right? No, you had to do that. Jesus said religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam. I had Yeah.
2:11:27So you would get a minister deferment and you but you might have they might call you anyway and then you can't run to Canada. You have to go to jail >> cuz the law is the law. You broke it. So you have to go to jail and just you know >> so Jehovah's Witnesses would just go to jail rather than joining the Yow.
2:11:45>> Wow. >> So you do that and I remember >> [ __ ] >> Yeah. So and and it it's an interesting thing because the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Um, but the guy >> who founded it, >> Charles Russell. And he's uh uh >> what what year was this? >> 1860 something, I guess.
2:12:01Um, but it wasn't called that at first. They all come out of the same area in Albany, the the uh uh and then down the river. They call it the psychic corridor. And that's where all the spiritualism, Mormons, >> the psychic corridor. >> Yeah, that's from Albany down to uh >> Oh, that's the dude. Wow, look at that.
2:12:20>> Now, they didn't make this guy. >> He looks cool. Yo, black everybody's wife. >> Did he [ __ ] wives? >> 100%. Look at him. >> Look at him. >> You're saying that's a wife [ __ ] smile. Go back up to that picture. Go back up to that past picture. >> The other one that you showed. >> I I think he was more of a con man considered by uh history than anything like that.
2:12:40>> That one. That one. That's a guy who [ __ ] >> I'm wearing your wife's underwear. >> Yeah, he's wearing the look. That is the look. >> He's got his stinky sweaty feet and your wife's shoes. >> Look, I got to say, uh what's his name over there? looks like he's giving me the same look. [laughter] I mean, we can project whatever we want on to these people.
2:12:57>> You think Arbell [ __ ] >> Look at that picture. He's like, "What?" No, he's like, "What are you blaming me for? I don't >> Someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens. He's interested. >> That guy [ __ ] your wife." >> Anyway, he his family arose. He used to have a pyramid. See that pyramid?
2:13:09Used to be his grave. They moved it now. There it is. >> That's his grave. >> Oh, yeah. He's a big pyramid guy. Now, Jehovah's Witnesses don't subscribe to that, but I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosie >> Kruian. So, he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witness and he had a pyramid for a tombstone.
2:13:25>> He was obsessed. Well, they're all obsessed with pyramids back then. But guess what? >> Um, the final initiation when you go to these stupid like Otto and Golden Dolan or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion. >> Wizard schools. >> Yeah, >> the finer thing is you invent your own religion.
2:13:38>> Alon Hubard was in the Otto and he invented a religion that was very successful. >> Oh, >> Nexium guy. There's a video you can find a guy that was doing the ac cappella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing ac cappella and the girl from Smallville got obsessed with being in this ac capella show.
2:13:54>> I [snorts] didn't I I never paid attention. >> I didn't know Hubard was in the Otto. >> He You don't know about him and Jack Bar? I mean it's such like a >> Well, no. Crowley said that he thought Hubard was a Kong man >> after he was mad at them for doing the Babylon. >> All right. I guess Parson's got him into the Otto.
2:14:08I see what you're saying. And then he would say he infiltrated a group of Satanist Elron Hubard and he's talking about Parson's group where he stole the guy's girlfriend in his boat. >> Basically like Scientology is a reworking of the thema, right? >> They're all the same [ __ ] thing. They're they all based on Kala, but they're mind.
2:14:24It's like mind uh palace techniques and pneumonic devices. Anyway, >> yeah. >> So the Otto it stands for Ordo Temply Orientis, >> right? But what does a wizard do at the end of the day? They make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany. The Mormons come out of there. The Seventh Day Adventists come out of there.
2:14:43The Jehov come out of there. The I mean a bunch of them. >> Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture. >> Hold on. Hold on. So what do you think? Why do you think they're doing that? >> Why do you think they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered? >> Uh well engineered by these kind of societies where that that's the the goal if you're in these these kind of groups by the way is control and enslavement of other people.
2:15:05the they're like the Levy church, by the way, that that lies and says like, "Oh, they're atheist." Nah, they're about some They're about uh NLP, which is like pickup artist Andrew Tate [ __ ] Like pimping. That's what pimping is. Like a mind control, right? They're all about that. >> Wait a minute. Neural linguistic programming is pimping.
2:15:25>> What's a pimping is a form of neur. >> It's it's a subset of it, I would say. >> Okay. So, it's mind control. That's right. Makes >> sense. Okay. >> My control. I I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean it's what you call propaganda, you call it advertising, you call it marketing. >> The Bernay School of Marketing.
2:15:42>> Well, for clearly people hypnotize people. Yeah. Clearly Manurion candidates was something that really worked. >> That's right. And and why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it >> because if they're captured, they won't say nothing.
2:15:55Right. >> Or at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily. And if they get captured, who gives a [ __ ] You got them to do the task. >> And we saw a bunch of those fake Dude, I I >> suicide bombers. >> Sure, >> that's a great one. >> It's ultimate example.
2:16:12>> Or how about all the fake uh crash dummies that went at Trump? The one hit the white. Dude, I can't even count all the fake ones. Now, the one at the White House, the guy that ran through naked that they tackled that Dana White was there and everybody got that. >> No, he wasn't naked. That That's the guy with the gun.
2:16:27>> Yeah. Why was he in the picture? Had no shirt on. And then so we put Lindsey Graham on top of him in a meme. >> I think that guy was a school teacher. He's like a crazy liberal school teacher and he brought a gun tried to But hold on a second. >> If you believe a lone nut thing, I can't help you. >> But there are some lone nuts.
2:16:43>> Sure. But I I don't know which ones they are. Um but of course there's got to be and the goal is of course to have remote triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your blue sky or your threads, you think you've got people of a likeminded. >> Don't point to me when you say threads.
2:16:58Why did you point to Duncan? >> Cuz I sent a link to threads and he thinks I don't go >> I told you I won't read it. >> I know. That's why here's why I pointed out you were right to call me out cuz that why that's why I did it. >> So you got your group right there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that.
2:17:12>> Okay. In what way? >> Cambridge Analytica when Brexit happened. I think Sebastian come a bunch played the game. >> Hold that Jamie for a second. >> What they were studying is how do we get the message to the people that they're going to respond to it and get them mobilized. Right. >> That's Cambridge Analytica.
2:17:25Do you remember that? I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica was about. I've heard about it a million times. >> It was when Trump won and then Brexit happened. >> It was because online people were mobilized by this thing that was like senior likes, the [ __ ] they use now to sell you TV on your phone.
2:17:39They were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, you remember this, right? If you put just put it up, I guess, and refresher. But so Cambridge Analytica is very famous. Here you go. So CA Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major 2018 data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm Cambridge Analytical and social media giant Facebook.
2:18:00So what happened? Data harvesting. >> Okay. The app used Facebook's API to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit consent. >> The data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica.
2:18:19Cambridge Analytica use uh psychoraphic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's 2016 US presidential campaign >> which is how you know it's from something in Tel Aviv probably >> we've progressed since then you know how far you've heard of geo fencing right >> sure okay what's geof fencing >> you know where uh uh they did they do stuff with your cell phone so a lot of the churches there's a big story that like uh I don't know if it was MSAD or

Republicans, Lindsey Graham, and Closing

2:18:48who it was geof fencing the Christian churches to like there you go >> a location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data or RFID. When a mobile device or tagged asset enters, leaves, or dwells within this defined perimeter, the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action.
2:19:14>> So they were using that to spy on churches here. This is so exhausting. But weren't they using it like algorithmically to like if you're in that area you're going to start seeing [ __ ] on your phone. They want you to >> That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So that's that's um like everywhere you look you're getting [ __ ] It's it's so exhausting what you're looking at.
2:19:31>> Uh here's what I don't get. It's like it's so it seems not hard but if you have a principle like hey I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death uh because you think it's advantageous in a war. >> That seems reasonable. No, it seems [ __ ] up actually if you ask around and you'd never be appointed anything.
2:19:45And in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything because >> talking about >> Cambridge Analytica resulted in a $5 billion fine to MetaF Facebook. Uh just this week they got a $25 billion penalty from a New Mexico state court. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. >> Oh, that's cuz they were harvesting you.
2:20:03So that's the that's the value. >> This is recently. >> Yeah, this was just this week. I was >> This is why we need the AI. Just this week, a New Mexico state court ordered Meta to pay $25 billion after a jury found the company misled state residents about a Davis about its data privacy practices. >> That's tied to data analytical or Cambridge Analytica.
2:20:24>> Mhm. Uh look up look up uh Gideon. Okay. It's called Gideon. And um it's um so you remember when they said there was a homeland security or a ICE office in Tel Aviv and and I remember on Jimmy show we cover them I'm like oh what are they training them to like break their arms better or something? No >> that's um it's like only legal to have the thing there.
2:20:43So remote neural monitoring that's the thing remember I showed you the ear mind reading headphones last night. >> Creepy. >> You don't need headphones for that. Your phone could your your whole body could be used as a circuit. The phone can I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened where they thought of something and that's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes and they translate it and the AI AI helps.
2:21:04>> So your phone could read your mind for real. >> Well, yeah. And in interpreting neural patterns, you understand? So they've for a lot of people it'll be accurate. Probably not for everybody's my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it. But what I do know is that Gideon thing in the AI centers, that's that's what they're going to be doing.
2:21:20I think I'm going to get a flip phone, >> dude. I think it's the move. >> I think I'm going to get a flip phone and I'm going to use my regular phone just to like >> get online and check my email. >> I think it's the move. >> Put it away and say, >> you got nothing to hide. There's no reason not to have block than that, right?
2:21:36>> You got nothing to hide. Somebody actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected and he was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden [ __ ] and he goes, "If you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit?" I was like, "What are you saying? >> How do you how can you really >> We better fight against communism."
2:21:53I guess >> Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security with AI powered weapon scanner. >> You got to look up Gideon. That's >> how I got to it. >> Scanner says it's radar based tech developed by a former radar engineer of Iron Dome can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs, and airports.
2:22:13Scanning. >> Scary. >> How is it screening them? What is it screening them for? >> Circumcision. >> So, look, it knows this guy has a gun on him. It knows that guy has a knife on him. How does it know that? >> What else does it know? >> You been to a sporting event in like the last couple years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore?
2:22:29[snorts] >> No. >> Oh, well, I have. >> Really? >> Yeah. I specifically in Columbus at a Crew Stadium, there's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners and they're they'll stop one person maybe out of like 30 or 40 to just double check something that maybe they got like a red like might be seeing something like this.
2:22:45So, you think as these people are walking, there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking. >> They're probably seeing through your clothes. >> Yeah. So, there was a I didn't This was not as good, but it's my work. >> Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack? >> Um Well, this isn't [laughter] This is the show to That's for you to keep you safe, but it's not.
2:23:06It's to keep the powers that be safe from you. That's what the real purpose is always. >> Okay, settle down. This video is showing just I've seen this on other things online. How AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will. >> Yo, the cops >> flock cameras, I guess. Regular cops.
2:23:25>> Hang on, Kurt. Let them talk. What? >> It's just like Flock and other companies like Flock. They they can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just >> making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time. Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day, they can go find you.
2:23:41>> Yeah. That creeps the [ __ ] out of me. And that was one of the things about the flock cameras was so crazy when you found out how many different people had access to it. Terrible. >> Like how many cops were using it to like they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. >> There was like like spying on their ex stalking ladies.
2:23:58>> [ __ ] stalking people and and then people that they had like disagreements with like find them. They were doing they had access to it where you're like how does like a cop just log in and have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You should have a [ __ ] need to look at that.
2:24:15>> But now think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm flock monitoring everybody and you're like in the area of my store about to go on my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store?
2:24:34Right? Then add to that state propaganda, the geo fencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place, the people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is [ __ ] insane.
2:24:58>> Have you seen Robert Estein's work that he's done with Google searches? Curated Google searches. Very interesting. >> We have him on Jimmy. Yeah, he's he's been on here a couple times. So, what he's shown is that they use curated uh Google searches to completely shift your perceptive your perception of a political campaign.
2:25:14Wow. >> So, like say if you um if you were against like Terico, you would look up James Telerico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously, him having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with him. It would do do something that freak you out.
2:25:32Or the opposite. If you you Google Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption, immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on them. So when they do that, they can shift like noticeably like a what was the percentage like 30% of people that are in the middle on the fence, they could shift them one way or the other.
2:25:54>> So you mix this with Sorry, Joe. I'm sorry. You mix this with Cambridge Analytica. >> Yeah. I'm so sorry. Oh my god. all these different there's well so many different ways to do this the Cambridge Analytica way the Google search way so searches are curated right if you Google Donald Trump you don't get just any story on Donald Trump you would get the negative ones first and then if you googled Hillary Clinton you'd get secretary of state humanitarian oh you know Clinton Foundation all the good
2:26:22stuff and the whole idea is to shift perceptions and amongst people that are on the fence which is a giant percentage of the population that are not undecided. You can shift them by like 30%. Like a very high level of you can and you can completely change an election one way or the other. That was like neck and neck.
2:26:38>> And that kind of tech should be illegal. Like clearly that should be illegal. And it's propaganda. It's propaganda. But of the most >> was made legal in 2015. >> That's the problem with Obama when they passed the Smith thing, >> modernization act. Yeah. >> Yeah. What they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us.
2:26:56They just wanted to bring baseball to Cuba. >> They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans because we got to protect people. >> Oh my god, Duncan. >> It's so [ __ ] up. >> It's so crazy. Like there's so much manipulation. And then also just think about this conversation like how many times Kurt's brought something like what?
2:27:15What is that? Like there's too many things you're getting [ __ ] with. Whether it's glyphosate or atrizine is making the frogs gay. Whatever the [ __ ] is happening, there's too much to keep track of, right? >> There's too many things. >> Yeah. >> There's too many stories. There's the the what was the child sc Franklin scandal?
2:27:32There's too many of these [ __ ] stories where you're like, "How many can I pay attention to?" Right. >> Well, how much will you tolerate? Uh I'm guessing you'll they could do it to you forever. >> Well, who's they? The thing is like a bunch of different groups of people that are in bunch of involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propagation.
2:27:51There's a pyramid that goes up. Of course, since we have this crisper gene editing for quite some time, longer than they've told you, I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians >> at the top of the heap. >> Oh, where are we going with this? >> Gods among us. >> Well, not among you, but I'm just saying you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want.
2:28:09Who was the guy who said we control time and space when Trump got in? >> I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they [ __ ] Lindsey Graham after he was dead. >> Why would you do that? What? Those bumps on this [ __ ] tape. >> I mean, those guys are heroes. >> For [ __ ] a great American hero.
2:28:24>> Yeah. Well, for for coming out bravely after his death and being a good sex worker is and for pleasuring one of the greatest. >> They could have done it while he was alive and that would have been wrong. >> Yeah. Kept their mouth shut forever and we would have never known. >> We would have never known that.
2:28:39>> No one would have guessed ever. >> I would have never guessed. >> Never would have guessed. >> I never would have believed it. >> I'm still I'm still incredulous. >> It's propaganda. I don't believe it. I'm going to be honest. >> Imagine those brave characters. They got together, all of them, and said, "You know what?
2:28:53Let's come out and let's say we [ __ ] them." >> People need to learn that Republicans are gay. >> There's a lot of them. >> You know, nobody would ever guess that Republicans are gay. >> I think there's a lot of like That's one of the big rumors about Washington is there's a lot of closeted gay Republicans.
2:29:10>> Remember when those dudes, how do you know? >> Except Pete Buddhaj for some reason. That guy's faking it. >> Remember faking it? You think he's a fake gay? >> I don't know. Tucker said it on Jimmy show one time. >> He said he's a fake gay. >> He said that's the rumor on K Street. And I >> What? Tucker just says [ __ ] sometimes.
2:29:24>> Hey, I'm not I'm just going to trust the science on this one cuz that's hilarious. Why >> says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people? >> Who created? I don't know. But that's what he said. He said, "I don't believe people made them. I'll I'll never believe that despite what they tell me." >> What?
2:29:38>> Who made them? >> He's talking demons. >> Yeah, he's got attacked by a demon in his sleep. >> I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> Wow. >> No matter though, he actually got marks on him. >> I know. I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I'm definitely trying to fall asleep on acid.
2:29:55Get attacked by demons. >> Is very clever. And I think he's almost like doing a very He's doing like a little subtle fiction occasionally like throws things in there for funsies. >> You think he doesn't believe in anything >> a little bit? No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying at all. Cuz if you're Christian, you believe in demons.
2:30:14>> I don't I do not. No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like there's some things that he says I'm like I don't know if you're like like you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people. Like what >> he's saying the intelligence behind it. They channeled something. The way they got our rockets from doing jerking off in the desert and looking each other's eyes for some reason.
2:30:33>> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute wait a minute. >> How do you not know this? >> They jerked off and looked in each other's eyes. I know Jack I'm being glib but well Jack Parsons was a Satanist, right? like a legitimate that's the father of theomite. That and the Nazis is >> he wasn't a Satanist.
2:30:47>> He wasn't. >> No, he was a Theeloomite. He was a He was a a student of Crowley. >> Sex cult antichrist. >> Satan just means an enemy of man. >> Oh, >> I thought he was like a Satanist. >> No. Well, I mean people lump in That's the problem is people like are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different like >> sex crazed.
2:31:05>> He wasn't a Satanist. >> Sex Duncan. What is sex crazed? >> That doesn't mean you're a Satanist. >> Just mean you just like to [ __ ] Yeah, >> you think about it a lot. >> My mom was saying Satan is a >> how they sell you cars. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> like Sydney Sweeneying selling a sports app. >> [ __ ] yeah.
2:31:20>> What are we sexy? >> She's some misad honey trap [ __ ] You know that. You saw that? >> Well, thank you, Msad. >> Like all the actresses and actors, they're all [ __ ] puppets. >> I thought they were all aliens or babies or something. >> Why did you think that? No one said that. [laughter] >> What are we looking at, Jamie?
2:31:34>> Trying to just find something good in here. >> Scientology is based on this cult Parsons is part of. That's right. >> Oh, really? Ellen Hubard said he infiltrated a group of Satanists. He's talking about this guy. >> God, this is too much. This is like what we're talking about. I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information.
2:31:48>> He's overwhelming us with this. You took his your CIA vest off. How come? >> It was very hot. It was too hot. >> Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire and I was like, "Fuck it. I'm not doing it." [laughter] I look over, I see Jamie looking at me and I got spooked. >> Is that why you don't want to wear the headphones?
2:32:06>> He doesn't interfere. [laughter] No, they fall off. >> I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you like from working with Jimmy. It's like you were normal like 3, four years ago and then like something happened to you with like the amount of [ __ ] conspiracies you were confronted with.
2:32:20>> No, no, no, no, no. Just news again, >> right? >> The things might conspiracies I don't want to say like I don't mean like >> I mean the disaster that is current events on a daily basis, the >> true reality behind these current events >> is horrific. >> It's horrific. And so once you see how bad it is and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by uh you have to be a fool.
2:32:42It's like I don't think John I don't think the mafia actually the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot. I mean I credit where credit is due. Nowhere near as vile and the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is is they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting pedals on because it'll it'll ruin their [ __ ] >> The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply otherwise they can't get you food.
2:33:06>> Right. That's what you food or you got no food. >> Epste's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him obviously. >> And we were with Eric Weinstein at UT. He goes, "If Do you think he was the main guy?" I go, "No." He goes, "If it all ever came out, it would end the world." And I go, "Oh, no."
2:33:23>> Weinstein said that. >> Yeah. >> He loves that kind of talk. He loves him and his brother. They both love cloak and dagger. >> You see their You see his brother's mentors email. Speaking of toolashes, uh Dr. Trivers, you see his [ __ ] weirdo emails to Epstein about >> what? >> Yeah. >> Who's that?
2:33:37>> Robert Trivers, the mentor of uh uh uh the better. Yeah. Brett's Brett's mentor. Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> So Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid to give him tits in a dick. >> By the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein. Like Harvey >> saying it wrong. >> Don't say it like Harvey.
2:33:55>> [ __ ] Harvey Weinstein. >> He's a Stein. >> Is it like that guy Robert Reich? >> Remember Robert Steven Seagal? It's not Steven Seagull. >> Get it? >> Got it. Sorry I said it. Rob >> emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology. >> What [ __ ] thing did Epstein not do?
2:34:19>> But they're all Dude, the transhumanism the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism. That's why it doesn't make any sense where they're like, "We want to eliminate categories, but if I'm like, I feel like a woman and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into nothing?"
2:34:33Like, that's what transhumanism is the goal, not transgender. That's a little stepping stone from the transhumanist movement. >> But what about autogophilia? >> Well, what about it? What's wrong with that? >> Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is. >> Yeah, sure. But mask is pointing out >> the pushing of it by by oligarchs, which is what that was.
2:34:53There wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it. That email is about that. >> So, the email is about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology. >> No, that's even grosser. That that email is bigger than that. I think it's like, you know, think of like Kerszswall's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies.
2:35:13>> So, Nicholas located an email which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money, an appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Ebstein responded, "I want to see you you I guess your piece on transgender in the bow world." Two months later, Trevors respond responded and said he was getting to the end of transexuality.
2:35:37paragraphs. The one >> says, "Uh, Trevor continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans women, including, "If you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with than a transsexual?" How is that dehumanizing? >> To call him an organism. Because she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman and may to some degree actually resemble one morphologically leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting.
2:36:12How is that dehumanizing? >> What a nerd. >> Because it's a organism. What better organism? That's >> that's how a scientist. >> Also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it. >> Also, these are private emails. Like, how's that dehuman? It says it again. It says Trivers and EB's team once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways.
2:36:29Is this like Trans Times Weekly that this is in? >> Yeah, this is really from them us. >> Okay. What is that? [laughter] >> Why are you putting my phone? Why are you sending us here? >> Well, but this all this dehumanizing chitter chatter like calling someone an organism is not dehumanizing. >> It's just [ __ ] [ __ ] talk.
2:36:52>> I'm not gay. They're gay. I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck. >> That's normal. >> Scientific. >> That's how kids talk in college. >> Scientific. Why don't you do >> my friend Jeffrey Epstein? >> If you want to get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that.
2:37:06>> Yeah. >> Yeah. You got to suck that woman dick. >> What's wrong with that? >> What's wrong with the little Bridget Mcronone? >> That one. Like where's that lawsuit? Like they keep saying they're going to sue Candace. >> Yeah. >> I think she know that one. >> Take you know she has a day. D like go do it live chromosome.
2:37:24>> Who cares if she has a dick? That's what difference does it make? >> Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman [ __ ] a 14-year-old boy and a 40-year-old man [ __ ] a 14-y old boy. >> Especially if it's his dad secretly. >> What? >> It might be his dad. >> It might be his dad.
2:37:38Mcronone's dad. >> Wait, what? >> What? >> Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but >> who said this one? Is this a Candace one or is this somebody else's thoughts? >> Well, no. Candace was taking stuff from French reporter and she says that when she was reporting >> that it might be his own father.
2:37:53>> Yeah, dude. I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the the good billionaires, the Rothschilds who have not done anything wrong and only I only hate Peter Teal. >> I would never talk about the Soros boy or the Rothschilds or anybody else that could be construed and I I make that clear. >> Good.
2:38:09>> Wait, what does this have to do with Mcronone's dick >> because they're related. He's like a Rothschild banking guy. >> Sit down. >> Her sit down. >> No. the way the way she sits down like a dude. >> It looks like David Spade. >> There's there's no way guys don't sit that way. >> Could be. I But I do think the pedophilia part gets left out like it's >> the pedophilia part is very different.
2:38:29So like pedophilia for like a 40-year-old woman and a 14-year-old boy. [ __ ] up. It's a little [ __ ] up, but whatever. Who cares? But the difference between that and a 40-year-old man, >> a 40-year-old man and a 14-y old boy freaks people out rightly so. Right. >> Like when you hear about a school teacher that [ __ ] some quarterback, like who cares?
2:38:49>> Remember the Galagus joke? >> Yeah. Yeah. You his buddies high-fived him to death. [laughter] >> Great joke. >> I know somebody that that happened with >> Oh, I bet you do. >> Yeah. >> Is his name Kurt Mezer? >> Maybe. No. [laughter] >> No. >> But you know what I'm saying? Like if a teacher is uh having sex with her quarterback, >> you know, you know, probably going to break the kid's heart, [ __ ] his head up, but he's going to be fine.
2:39:15But but if you find out that like the football coach is [ __ ] one of the the 15year-old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right? >> It's a different feeling. 45year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader. Like, string them up. >> All right. Look, I'm not I'm not I'm sorry.
2:39:32It's going to seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some [ __ ] joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about this the difference and whatever edge lording. It's a long time ago. Stupid joke. It wasn't funny at all. But this dude comes up to me after the show and he's like, "I got when I was a kid, when I was like like 12 or something, I got [ __ ] by an adult woman."
2:39:52And he's like, "And it [ __ ] me up." And I'm still [ __ ] up. Like it it >> I know people that it [ __ ] them up because that's a very >> It [ __ ] you up. It's too much. No, you can't handle it. It wrecks you. And like and though I don't doubt like I Let me tell you when I was 14 that I would that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to [ __ ] So I get what you're you know what I mean?
2:40:14Like I was licking I was licking I was licking pages, you know? I was like so horny. But I think >> hot for teacher. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I think it wrecks it wrecks some people. It wrecks people. >> Does that happen to me? messed up from it cuz I was a church kid very innocent and so you know >> I mean there was dudes in my school that had like mustaches and families working but like I wasn't at so >> right >> that I think it's very individual >> it sort of how bad >> not ideal
2:40:44>> there's a law for a reason >> I don't give it now people go oh she's only 19 and that guy is however old I don't give a [ __ ] >> like think about that lady that [ __ ] her her student or the young boy and then it was a young guy and then she went to jail and then when they got him out like they had a family together >> and they became the leaders of France I believe.
2:41:03No, I'm joking. Same same story, different outcome. >> Yeah, it's not always it's it's I mean it's not ideal. >> It's not ideal. I mean I would be pissed. I mean imagine if you heard that happen to your kid, you know, like you know that's it's [ __ ] up. It's like there's just too much power to manipulate some poor teen, you know.
2:41:21>> It's [ __ ] up. >> Big juicy tits. >> Oh god, I would have loved it though. >> Yeah. What's her name again? married Kayla Turner. >> That's right. Mary Kay their kids. >> They made a beautiful family. >> This says they got separated. This is like 10 years ago. >> Yeah. They 21 years ago. >> Well, he eventually grew up and realized, "Oh my god, she was [ __ ] crazy.
2:41:39Why was she banging me when I was 14?" >> Yeah. [ __ ] >> Or maybe she he just got too old for it. >> Boys, I got to pee. Let's wrap this up. >> All right, let's wrap it up. >> Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast. You guys are great together. Legitimately, like it's I'm so glad you guys decided to do it.
2:41:54I knew it was going to be huge from the beginning. I was like, "This is going to click." >> Joe, thanks, man. >> Good luck with your fake dick. [laughter] >> I know. I feel now that I know there's one. >> We'll swap and we won't tell anybody. I'll give you a real one on the way out. You can leave that one.
2:42:08>> I just want to feel the heft of it. >> Just cuz I love you. >> Oh my god. TAKE THE REAL BACK, YOU give you the real walrus dick and you can leave the fake one and no one will know. >> Well, Jenna doesn't want me to have it, but >> she doesn't want you to have the fake I just like to position her as as being against me having a walrus dick in my >> All right.
2:42:28>> And your show one more time. Tell everybody the >> the experts is on YouTube right now. It's pretty funny, man. I I'm >> miss your boys. Look at that. That's awesome. >> Yeah. We got to make our base hoe shop shirts. >> Yes, we do. >> Based hoe. >> You know like basso bass pro shop. >> Oh, >> this is beast [laughter] hoe shop.
2:42:45>> And I have a female girl. >> That's great of a bass. It's that awareness with the fish body from uh the Atlantic, you know, uh but it's a chick. >> When does this come out? >> Tomorrow. >> Oh, can I plug a show? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm gonna be at Mic Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow. >> Is that the same as Mike Drop in San Diego?
2:43:04Is the same company? >> I think so. I'm not positive about that though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So, >> this this Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. >> Tomorrow. I'm going to be there tomorrow. >> There it is. >> Thanks, man. >> Detroit House of Comedy, it says. >> I like playing. >> That's weird. I thought Detroit is a good town.
2:43:18You don't even know where the [ __ ] you're going. >> It's mic drop comedy. I don't know why you're saying that's what it is. Mic drop comedy. >> Oh, okay. That's what I'm going to be. >> All right. Bye, everybody. [music] >> Bye.
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