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Joe Rogan Experience #2572 - Colum Tyrrell

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Joe Rogan and comedian Colum Tyrrell cover a wide, freewheeling range of topics: gambling and alcohol laws, Kanye West's controversies, Irish history and drinking culture, Trump's political posts and crypto dealings, hunting and wildlife, and comedy craft. The conversation is loose and anecdotal, with no single formal conclusion beyond Tyrrell's love of live comedy and the outdoors.

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Opening and celebrity banter

0:01Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. >> What's the story? >> Good [music] to see you, brother. What's happening? >> I'm great, man. >> Thanks for doing this, man. >> Thanks for having me. >> My pleasure. I'm excited to talk to you.

0:19>> Yeah. So, I I was so nervous about my special these last couple of weeks that I don't even think I was really even thinking about this at all. So, it probably kind of worked as a nice distraction because if I didn't have anything else going on, this would have just been over my head all the time. >> Oh, yeah.

0:33I know. It [ __ ] people up the first time they do it. After you do it a couple times, you're like, just we're just hanging out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But in the beginning, >> this is a mind. >> It's a global scale for me. >> It's me, too. I try not to think about it. [laughter] >> Yeah. Cuz all I'm thinking now is like, we'll say something about [ __ ] sweet tits and [laughter] then I got to get a phone call off my mother.

0:54Did you see how those women that they interviewed these women and they uh asked them what was uh a worse impact on women in society? Whether it was Lindy Clancy or Sydney Sweeney, what was worse for women? And they almost like I mean I don't know where they went. Obviously it's a biased sampling group, but all these women were saying Sydney Sweeney.

1:15>> Yeah. Really? >> Yeah. >> They just want to cluck each they want to just peck each other to death. >> Exactly. That's what it is. >> Yeah. Cuz she really made it out of the swamp. She made it out of the swamp. Right. >> She's like as famous as you possibly be. Just mostly because of her tits. Really?

1:31>> Yeah. >> Actually, you know what? I always thought she was a good actor in um a couple of the things Euphoria and stuff. >> She's just too hot. They don't like it. >> Yeah. But she's also >> kind of not like [snorts] crazy strikingly beautiful. So, there's something that's makes her even more popular, you know?

1:48>> I think I don't think she's like a catwalk model. She's not like a Victoria's Secret model. Her face is a little >> Let's take a look at her face. >> Honestly, [laughter] I This is horrible, but I'm not getting rude. >> I'm not in the business. >> I'm not getting rude. I'm going to defend her. I think she's hot as the sun.

2:03>> So do I. I think she's I think she's as attractive as the sun. She's attractive. >> The the short thing matters with men, but does it really matter with women? Like whether or not you think they're Oh, for models. >> I was say for model, that's all >> right. But as to whether or not she's attractive, she's [ __ ] beautiful.

2:19>> I would I would disagree with the previous statements. what you're talking about, dog. >> I'm not saying I'm a beautiful man by any means, but so don't get this twisted. >> I'm definitely not either. So, >> so once we said that, now let's rip her to shreds. Let's go. [laughter] >> She's pretty [ __ ] hot, dude.

2:34>> She She really is. >> I mean, I don't know how you could say that's not a 10. >> That girl right there is hot as the [ __ ] sun. >> You are right. >> She's hot. >> I changed my mind. >> It's Ladies don't like it. They just don't like when woman a woman has that kind of power because they know that too much of being a woman at least in America at least in 2026 I'm sorry but too much of it resides on whether or not you are attractive to the opposite sex.

2:59>> Yeah. >> When women walk into a room they like to be the most attractive person in the room. And you [ __ ] know if you walk in a room and that [ __ ] walks in >> everyone's going to look at her. >> She's Yeah. She is the >> typical bombshell blonde big tits and all the guys see her we all go >> big real ones.

3:16>> Yeah, >> that's the thing. >> Also must be weird for her that to be in a world where just people are I guess so obsessed with her looks kind of, you know. >> Well, I mean she's putting it out there, right? She's doing that sports ads commercial with footballs over her tits. >> She has her own like gambling app now and stuff like that.

3:32>> Well, I think she's probably working with one. Boy, if there's anything that's like the most controversial thing in I one of the most controversial things today is gambling ads and whether or not gambling should be legal. People, some people are like fully against gambling being legal. And I'm like, boy, I don't understand that.

3:50>> The I grew up with gam gambling's legal in Ireland. It always was. But that we had a like a a bookies which was like attached to the pub nearly everywhere you go. So you'd have to physically go in there and ride out a slip and you could bet on the horses and stuff like that. Yeah. >> And it seemed to be relatively managed well.

4:07But I think first of all, the phones are a disaster >> and then you add gambling to the phones. >> I've heard a lot of stories of people like throwing [ __ ] away just because the phones are addictive no matter what. And then they pl you be putting a bet on basketball and it'll go bling. You just won a free uh blackjack.

4:24Why don't you play blackjack? And then you'll be there for an hour and you've lost $500, >> right? Or don't do that. >> That's the thing. It's like, shouldn't you be able to have a balanced life and also bet 500 bucks on a game that you care about? >> Yes. >> If you're a regular person with a regular job and you're not insane and you go, "Oh [ __ ] the Knicks are playing tonight.

4:44I think they're going to [ __ ] take it. Let's go." And you throw a $500 bet on it and it makes it exciting for you. You got something riding on it. COME ON. [ __ ] YEAH. PEOPLE like that. I don't know why we're supposed to take that away because some people can't control it. And you look, I've said this many times.

5:00I've talked about this a ton. I I from the time I was 23 till I was like 25. >> I lived in a pool hall. >> Yeah. >> Like I lived playing pool and hanging out with gamblers. I I know gambling addicts. >> Yeah. I I know [clears throat] like legitimate gambling addicts that they gamble. They'll gamble on raindrops coming down a window.

5:22>> Yeah. Well, now you can. Poly market [laughter] will pull it out. And I understand why some people would have a problem with it, but don't do it if you have a problem with it. That's what I don't understand. Like, and what we're micromanaging every single aspects of society and turning it into a nanny state.

5:37I feel like you should be able to drink. I mean, look, I think you should be able to do drugs and I think they should be legal and I think we should be able to sell real drugs. >> So, you shouldn't have to worry about getting fentinyl overdoses. >> You get coke at 7-Eleven. >> Not at 7-Eleven. Maybe at the liquor store.

5:53>> Yeah. But then now, but now that's the same argument where I go, "Well, why can't I? Cuz I can control my coke. I should be allowed to buy it at 7-Eleven." >> Yeah. Okay. Well, you can get booze at 7-Eleven. So, fair point. You I mean, what is the Can you get like hard liquor? >> You can get Coke outside of 7-Eleven.

6:08[laughter] >> Every single 7-Eleven. >> Also die. You can take a [ __ ] pill. >> And part of the fun of drugs. >> Today, today it's the part of the gamble >> where people go, "Is that safe?" You go, "Ah, >> probably." >> Could be. You let me know. She did it an hour ago and she's right there. [laughter] >> Yeah, that's the the canary.

6:28>> She's dancing like seems okay. >> Yeah, it's uh it's [ __ ] weird. What were you going to say, J? >> It depends on the state. State liquor laws are different everywhere. Like in California, I think you could buy them in the grocery store and >> you buy like Jack Daniels. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I get Yeah.

6:44>> Well, Jack Daniels in the grocery store makes sense, but does it make sense in 7-Eleven? But then there's different like the gas some gas stations would have like liquor stores attached to them and >> some wouldn't and then it just depends. >> Yeah, it's weird because like I live in New Jersey so I we can't buy certain booze at uh grocery stores >> so you have to go but like it doesn't really make sense because you can buy some things here, some things there.

7:08Well, I lived in Massachusetts when I was a kid and we would have to go to New Hampshire for booze on Sunday because >> you have to [laughter] go. >> Massachusetts had booze laws. >> They had what is it? Blue laws. Is that what it's called? >> There's laws on Sunday where you weren't allowed to buy booze.

7:23That was the Lord's day. Son of a [ __ ] Go to church, you piece of [ __ ] >> Bunch of boys in a car drive to New Hampshire >> and uh >> crack them open on the way back. >> They would call them package stores. So, we would call it the Pachy. We're going to the Pachy and guys would take meaning >> hour and a half.

7:38What does it mean up there? Oh, Pakistani. >> Yeah, it's a bit of a slur for Browns. [laughter] >> No, for us it was package store. I don't know how it became package store, but you'd have to go to New Hampshire. >> And you guys wouldn't just like buy a lot on Saturday. You >> No, we're [ __ ] [laughter] >> [ __ ] you drank it all.

7:56>> You don't know what the [ __ ] we're doing for sure. >> Yeah, there was some guy was 21. He was driving, [laughter] >> but yeah, you'd have to go between the legs >> and there was no gambling. You would have to go to back then you'd have to go to Vegas to gamble or you'd have to find a bookie, an actual bookie, >> you know, an illegal bookie that was connected to the mob.

8:16>> Yeah, >> that was the only way because you >> But then you had to you really had to work for your gambling. That's what you And then I think you would probably think about your bets a little. >> Would you? I doubt it. >> I don't know. >> I doubt it. >> I've not I've not met a mob boss and made a bet yet.

8:32>> I feel like people that are off the rails are just going to be off the rails. >> Yeah. I feel like we what we really need is to teach people when they're very young how to control impulses and the value of discipline and that you can control your behavior and you can control your urges in in terms of like gambling, alcohol, like there are people that are absolutely genetically addicted to alcohol and genetically addicted to other things.

Gambling and alcohol laws

8:55I'm not but them aside with a lot of people it's a self-control issue. It's whether or not you choose to do a positive thing or choose to do a negative thing. >> And the thing is about gambling is I don't think it's always a negative thing. And I think for some people it is fun and they like it. >> Yeah.

9:13>> It makes it a little extra exciting and they're not ruining their life. So should they not be able to do it? For people who do ruin their life? >> Yeah. I don't know. I always would place bets on like the Super Bowl, big games like that. Add a little something. I do the boxes at the bars, you know?

9:28>> Right. Add a little something. I like it. >> Yeah. But now it's kind of seems like it's it a lot of just college kids are kind of just [ __ ] they're growing up where that's normalized to have like a certain amount of your money lost to gambling. And I guess >> we need to teach them not to be doing that.

9:44>> Do we? >> Um >> uh what remains today? The main surviving Texas blue wall restrictions concern alcohol sales and motor vehicle sales. Liquor stores close on Sundays and car dealers cannot sell vehicles in both Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend. What? >> Why? That's why I brought it up. [clears throat] Why?

10:00>> Saturday and Sunday rule >> of the same weekend. >> So, those are the only ones that last. There was a I was got into this because there was a long list of 42 very specific items that weren't allowed to be sold and it was repealed in like the 60s or 80s or something. >> This is for Texas. >> This was for Texas.

10:17I don't know about for every other state. It's just it's also a very strange list of stuff. >> So, what are the categories removed? These are things that you couldn't sell. Yeah, you >> you couldn't sell electronics on Sunday. >> It was repealed in 1985. >> How weird is that? Electronics. That's the devil's work.

10:36>> Clothing, furniture, kitchen utensils, >> footwear. Can't buy shoes on Sunday. >> So, you couldn't go shopping basically. [clears throat] >> You couldn't buy I mean, you >> are These are old Texas laws. >> Jesus law, son. Jesus wants you to not sell guitars on a Sunday. There was medical Put that back up that list.

10:52It's crazy. musical instruments, recordings, and toys. If your kid wants a [ __ ] toy, you can't make your kid happy on a Sunday, they should be happy with Jesus. >> I've never really heard any of this. >> Certain tools and lawnmowers. What if your [ __ ] lawn mower breaks on Sunday and you got that's your day to mow the lawn?

11:13>> This says the same thing about they can't sell them on consecutive Saturdays and Sundays. They have to pick a day, which is we're talking that's so strange. [laughter] >> What does that mean? How this got developed has got to be a weird story. I'm sure there has to be a reason. It's probably not a good one.

11:27But >> the weird thing is like if you couldn't buy liquor on Sunday, could you go to a restaurant and order a drink? >> Here you can order I think only beer and wine, you can't order liquor. Or it's like after before 10 or before 11 or something like that. >> You mean right now today? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

11:41So if you go to a restaurant on a Sunday and you try to order an oldfashioned rule, >> they won't let you. That seems wrong. That doesn't >> You cannot buy liquor from package stores on Sundays in Texas. But you can buy we uh beer and wine at grocery and convenience stores starting at 10:00 a.m. >> Uh what about restaurants?

11:58>> Restaurant can serve alcoholic beverages starting at 10 a.m. on Sunday if the alcohol is sold along with the service of food. >> Oh, >> you got to buy food, too. So >> So you can't just be a bar selling liquor. >> You got >> which is also I guess I've been to No, that's not right. I've been to a bar where they're watch playing football and they're selling >> Well, what about our bar?

12:15>> They probably have like a one chicken wing minimum kind of just loophole. >> They do have a food truck on premises. What about our bar? What about Mitsy's? >> We're not open that early, >> right? Oh, it is Sunday, I guess. >> But it's Sunday. We're open on Sunday. Are we breaking the law? Breaking the law.

12:32>> Are we breaking the law? >> From 10:00 a.m. to noon. >> Oh, just against this. I'm >> That's when you're supposed to be in church. >> So, if you have breakfast or so, if you want some mimosas, you have to order. >> Yeah, it's 10:00 a.m. to noon. No food required. Afternoon. Okay. So, >> Oh, so people sitting around waiting.

12:47>> Yeah. [laughter] stared at their clock. It's [ __ ] stupid law. >> That's the dumbest [ __ ] law ever. >> I used I when growing up in Ireland, I used to know lads like that would go down to the liquor store and they'd be waiting like it was there to release [ __ ] tickets to like a concert. There would be a line of people 8 like 9:00 a.m.

13:04on a Sunday just sitting around waiting for the liquor stores to >> Wow. They got up early. >> Well, [laughter] no, no, they did not get up. They stayed up all night. Yeah, they went to the gym first and then [ __ ] went for a No, they stay up all night and then >> they'd go straight to the liquor store waiting.

13:19>> Jesus Christ. >> Or you had the early houses. They have them in New York sometimes, too. The early houses. >> What's an early house? >> An early house has a special license where it can open at like 6:00, 7:00 in the morning because it's it usually in a port. So, the old fisherman apparently would get in off their shift and so there used to be all these laws, you know, can't serve booze till 10:00.

13:36And they were like, "Well, we finish work at 6:00 a.m., so why can't I drink?" So they would let individual spots and they have a few of them in New York still. >> So when we would bartend, we would drink in the bar till 6, 7. Then we get a taxi over to the early house and there'll be guys getting off work and we're all [ __ ] steaming from the [laughter] night before.

13:55We're we're wasted all night. >> New York is fun. >> So much fun. >> There's so much stuff to do. There's always something happening somewhere. >> It's the Yeah, that's that's actually why I moved here was cuz I visited New York when I was younger. I was like 19 and I just fell in love with the opportunity of how much stuff there was to do.

14:15I was like no matter I feel like no matter who you are, you can find your little tribe of people in New York. >> You get a great meal at 4 in the morning. >> Yeah. >> You can go to a restaurant and get a meal at 4 in the morning. >> A little bit of that's died down though, the restaurants because of co, you know, all the diners are 24 hours and then co the spend stopped and it kind of [ __ ] up a lot of [ __ ] >> [ __ ] co.

14:37>> It kind of [ __ ] up. Can I take this? >> Yeah. How long have you been over here for in America? >> I've been here since 2014. >> So, >> did you start comedy in Ireland? >> Yeah, I I was doing comedy for like two years out there. >> What's it like out there? What's the scene? >> It's small. Not many people out there.

14:52So, it's like a small It's like not that easy to make a living. >> Is uh is there clubs or is it open mics? >> Only really a couple of purposely built clubs. Most rooms are just like a a room above a bar that's been converted and great. And the the crowds are incredible in Ireland. They're small uh and they're almost like doing a black room cuz if you crush you feel like a king and if you bomb you will regret everything that ever led to that.

15:18The Irish [laughter] will you will bomb at the Irish and then just quickly someone goes not funny and then you've got 15 more minutes going [ __ ] and he gets a big laugh and you go what about this other thing I saw you know. >> But if you're going well they love you. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And is there a lot of good comics over there?

15:36>> There's some great comics. Yeah. A lot of them don't move out too much. They don't really get out of there. >> That's a problem. >> We got a couple of great guys. Well, there was our biggest guy ever was probably Tommy Turnin. >> I've heard of him. >> Tommy was massive and he used to go all over and then I think he got rocked for saying he got like one of the first canled guys back in 2006.

15:52He made a joke about um if about Hitler didn't have enough ambition [laughter] and that six million wasn't enough and then but he said it like casually on stage as a joke and then someone wrote a huge article about it and then they kind of [ __ ] his whole touring over here as agents managers everyone dropped him and then he just goes [ __ ] it I'll stay in Dublin I'll stay in Ireland because uh I got a fan base here my family so Tomy's the best.

16:19>> So does he still perform in Ireland? >> Tom Yeah. Yeah. But I think he kind of only sticks to that that region. But he's Yeah, but he's a weird dude. Like he's like a like an old witch type of a guy like where he'll see like he'll have a stick. He'll walk around with a stick and he'll hit you with a poem that doesn't make sense and then he then [laughter] he jumps back into a hedge.

16:38Like he is a very interesting. He has a huge talk show in Ireland right now. Massive talk show. Yeah. Where he get >> on television? >> On television they get a guest in that he doesn't know who the guest is. It's a surprise. So then he sits down and just like starts talking to them and tries to he either knows them or just tries to figure out what they're doing.

16:54Yeah. >> Huh. What's it called? >> Uh the Tommy Turnan show. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. So book me maybe. [laughter] >> Yeah, for sure. >> I'd love to do it. >> That sounds fun. >> This episode is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. You know what's pretty cool? The Farmer's Dog is partnering with the United Service Organization to support military families and their dogs.

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18:04I'm going to stay in Ireland." >> I think so. Yeah. >> And he was touring all over the world before that. >> Yeah. He had like he was huge big huge in Canada, big in Australia. He he was doing the tours in America. Had a comedy central hour at the time and then I think it was like a postshow live interview type of thing where someone >> someone actually asked a question like can you go too far as a joke and he said no and then I think he used that as an example and some journalist just

18:31cherrypicked that and said anti-semitic whatever which is funny cuz if he did it today he'd be a [ __ ] king because the anti-semitism is kind of in kind of [laughter] cool >> in vogue. >> It's kind of cool. Yeah, it made a comeback. >> It really did. Yeah. >> As soon as Kanye started selling out stadiums again, everybody was like, "Wow."

18:48>> Yeah, >> that dude had a diamond encrusted swastika made. By the way, where do you think he got the diamonds? [laughter] >> He got him from the Albanians. >> He got you what? >> Think he got them from the Italians. >> There's going to be an upcharge on the on the swastika. [laughter] >> We can make a deal.

19:07>> Yeah, >> but we got to work something out. Got to go in through the back door. Yeah. >> [ __ ] diamond encrusted swastika and the next thing you know the dude's selling out stadiums again. Selling out enormous stadiums. >> Well, the music slaps. >> Slaps. >> Slaps. >> The dude's >> nothing but bangers.

19:23>> Yeah. >> For [ __ ] decades. That guy's been making >> It's funny when I like when I say anti-semitism, too. I'm like kind of tongue and cheek joking about the uh Israel stuff. But like he was actually doing some anti-semitic stuff, right? Yeah, like >> he was actually I don't know what he was doing but he was he had a song like we we are Hitler or something.

Kanye West and Cousins

19:42What was the song? >> Yeah. H Yeah, it was Hy Hitler. [laughter] >> Yeah, that was the song. And he apologized for that. >> Didn't he have a song about sucking off his cousin at one point too? >> No, he posted about that [laughter] on Instagram that him and his cousin used to watch porn and he sucked his cousin.

20:01>> He had a song. He's like, "I gave my cousin head. I gave my cousin head." It was It was actually a banger. Yeah, it was [laughter] >> again you It's like he goes, "What can I I can I'm so good. I'll make a song about sucking off my little cousin and it'll be and it'll be great." >> That they blew each other when they were like 14.

20:20>> That kind of >> would watch porn and suck each other's dicks. >> That kind of happens, you know. >> I guess it does if it happened to him. It clearly is a real thing. It's not like a, you know, UFO story where you're like, you got to leave it up to [laughter] whether I believe. something fantastical that you've never experienced before.

20:37>> I don't have the confidence to to ever admit that would happen, let alone write a great song about it and release it, you know. >> And it's not like anybody confronted him with that information and he had to own up to it. No, he just posted it one day on Twitter. [laughter] >> Awesome. >> Yeah. I think he said he sucked his cousin's dick for years >> and [clears throat] >> for years.

20:56No. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he said it for years. Uh, Cousins styled in all caps is a song by American rapper Kanye West. It was released on April 21st, 2025 as intended second single from his unreleased studio album Cuck. [laughter] What a name. It first released on West Twitter account before being sent to streaming platforms in April 2023.

21:21hip-hop song samples uh were worth the originals by double verirgo and interpolates 10 perks by David Blunt and such. Okay. Uh he was originally reluctant to write it but has since reflected on how it positively impacted West. >> It was removed from streaming platforms November of 2020. >> But [clears throat] >> but why you can't sing about that?

21:45His friend is uh his cousin is actually in jail. It seems like previously spoken of a cousin who is currently serving a life sentence in jail for a murder he committed at 17 years old. Uh he mentioned him on Jimmy Kim Alive in 2018 and the 2020 documentary Kim Kardashian West the Justice Project. H he added that his cousin is now serving a sentence for killing a pregnant woman.

22:12Oof. A few years after Wes told him they wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore, Wes believed that he was self-centered for taking the blame for his cousin's murder charge and for showing him those dirty magazines when he was six. >> What? >> So then this guy actually wrote the song and Kanye performed [snorts] the writing of it.

22:33>> Oh wow. >> Yeah. Same with the uh other song you guys are talking about. >> American rapper David Blunts who served as the main songwriter for Cuck. Just like just having that in your Wikipedia. What' you do? Well, I was the main songwriter for Cuck. Oh, excellent. Amazing. How was that collaboration?

22:45Uh, while Wes was playing The Last of Us on his PlayStation 5, uh, West originally declined Blunt's offer to turn into a song, but later changed his mind. Though Blunts had become reluctant to write it, attempting to procrastinate by sending Wes different songs for the album, he eventually decided to record it as a demo in his living room due to Wes persistence.

23:07He persisted. He's like, "Write it. Write about me sucking my cousin's dick. >> [laughter] >> writing it over a beat he downloaded from YouTube due to his main producers being asleep. That's hilarious. The [snorts] [ __ ] guy's working like 24 hours a day. >> Blunts took around 20 minutes to finish the song.

23:25He later reflected on Cousins as being very freeing for West when he made it, believing that West chose him to write it due to his blunt in quotes uh no pun intended approach to songwriting that lacks double entandras. Uh, according to producer Chucky Beats, he was unaware that West used Blunt's song 10 Perks, which he co-wrote and produced until YouTube commenter told him about the expost.

23:47So, what was the expost? What did he say? >> So, there was a there was a post >> what post you're [clears throat] saying? Yeah. >> Yeah. Where he just came out. And so, >> it does make sense that he writing that song helps him [cough] >> deal with it. [clears throat] They say that with like any PTSD where it's like if you can journal about the whatever the things are.

24:12>> Oh, here it is. It says the song is called Cousins about my cousin that's locked in jail for killing a pregnant lady a few years ago. I told him we after I told him we wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore. Perhaps in my self-centered mess, I felt it was my fault that I showed him those dirty magazines in New Six and then we acted out what we saw.

24:30My dad had Playboy magazines, but the magazines I found on top of my mom's closet were different. My ma name is Ye, and I sucked my cousin's dick until I was 14. >> Yay. >> Yay. Sorry. >> Tweet sent. [laughter] >> Okay, >> awesome. >> Good for him. >> Jesus. >> Six to 14. >> That's a long time. A lot of dick sucking.

24:56>> That's a long time to be sucking [ __ ] Yeah. boy. And then one day he's like, "Enough." And then he blames that on his cousin shooting a >> wave blunts. [cough] >> He's [clears throat] the guy who wrote it. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Okay. >> Big, huh? >> He's a [snorts] big fella. >> I can see why he procrastinates.

25:15[laughter] >> Yeah. >> Hard to have energy when you're that big. >> Yeah. >> Hard to, you know, be motivated to write a write a good song. >> Mhm. [laughter] >> That's a crazy story, man. >> Yeah. But I mean all brilliant people like that like that are that good are going to be insane. >> Yeah. Yeah.

25:33I guess so. Yeah. >> Yeah. A bunch of different ways, but they're all insane in some way. >> Didn't he say he can like see like colors with sound? He said that he has that thing that when he hears sound, he like visualizes it. >> Did he say that? That makes sense. >> Yeah. >> I mean, clearly as a gift.

25:52He's definitely one of the most talented >> ever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, >> and uh when you talk to him, it's like his words are like barely contained inside of his mouth. Synesthesia. He has uh a neurological condition where auditory input such as music or sound triggers involuntary visual experiences like seeing color, shapes, or patterns.

26:16>> Makes sense. >> So, when he hears songs, it's like doing mushrooms or something. >> Like when you're talking to him, it's almost like these words are like pouring out of his mouth. like it's like behind his brain like like they're just coming out. >> No filter. >> I mean, I think that's how he writes, too.

26:29I think it's just like there's a creative storm inside of his brain that's just flying out of him all the time. >> Yeah. Well, it goes to show for what he did and how for like his what he was saying and everything and how much people were like trying to cancel him, I guess. And now he's back to selling out a huge [ __ ] stadium.

26:48>> I know. It's it's nuts. I think I mean at some point in time they must have just given up on trying to cancel him. But the crazy thing is like Adidas backed away from their sponsorship and it cost them billions of dollars. >> Billions because he was basically saying the Jews control everything >> and they didn't like that so they fired him.

27:08>> So they they killed his bank accounts. They basically [laughter] controlled everything. >> Wait to prove him wrong. I guess >> I know. It's so funny that they did that. They didn't just ignore him. But it's a we it's a weird time for uh anti-Jewish thinking and rhetoric. >> Yeah. Well, it all just boils over from the Israel thing.

27:25And then and then while we're here, we're kind of like, "By the way, you're a little annoying." Also, by the way, just so [laughter] you know, while while we're while I'm breaking it to you, you guys are a little [ __ ] irritating. [snorts] >> Well, they're very into being Jewish. And if you're not Jewish, >> Yeah.

27:44>> Yeah. >> They love being a Jew. >> Must be fun. >> They stop me. A lot of time in New York they'll ask me if I'm Jewish a lot cuz you know like there's like a special week where they like hand out [ __ ] Jew Bibles or whatever they have, you know, >> Jewels. >> I don't know. I honestly Yeah, the Torah.

28:00And then they'll stop me. These guys with the curls and everything. They'll stop me and be like, "Are you Jewish?" And I go, "No." They go, "Oh, okay." >> But they they're upset at you. >> No, they're not upset. No, but they they think I'm a Jew. I must have some sort of uh >> something going on. >> What do you think that is?

28:15>> I don't know. You could be Well, that's the thing about being Jewish. It's not like being Somalian, you know, where you can go, "That guy looks Somalian." >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like Jewish could be red hair. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> I think that's where the sneaky the sneaky Jew comes from.

28:29[laughter] >> I do think that's where the >> the the theory of the sneaky Jew is because >> you can't spot him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can spot some of them. Like Ari Shapi, you [ __ ] Yeah. You Everything about Ari is Jewish. >> Yeah. You spot that [ __ ] a mile away with Ari. Ari's like too Jewish where he needs to like dilute the blood a little >> get an operation.

28:49[laughter] >> You've already had where do you start? >> The nose >> 100%. [laughter] >> But then you're going to have to widen the face. >> Sure. >> It's like you like the thing about faces. That's like one of those things you notice if you see someone they got a nose job like something looks wrong. >> Yeah.

29:06>> Like why is your nose normal size and the rest of your face is strange? >> Sure. >> You know cuz that's the golden ratio. Like there's like There's a symmetry to the way your face is structured that if you have the type of face that's supposed to have a big nose and all of a sudden you got this little Michael Jackson button nose >> doesn't work.

29:24>> Yeah. Yeah. You look weird. Like something about your mind is like the ratios are off and you're like something's wrong here. >> Mhm. That would be my biggest fear probably to go under the knife trying to be more handsome and then you come out with like a [ __ ] like a [ __ ] up lip or something, >> right?

29:40[clears throat] You know, your face doesn't move. So every time you you might look okay when you're staring at the mirror, but then as soon as you start talking, your face looks like it's made out of rubber. >> What's going to look what what are all these like young 20-year-olds who are getting Botox going to look like when they're 40?

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29:53Are they just going to have a [ __ ] mask on? Like just >> Well, it's the fillers. The fillers are the real problem. Botox is not great, but it's you're basically putting botulism in your skin. And it can also cause a bunch of other side effects, but I think the real problem is those fillers. Like some people have to get their face removed and scrape the fillers out.

30:14>> What? >> Yeah, man. >> What do you mean they get their face removed? >> Yeah, they literally have to like [ __ ] open your face up and remove the fillers. Like some ladies went a little too far. Terminator. I don't know the procedure, but I know that they have to get something in your skin underneath there and suck it all out.

30:32>> Yeah. >> Depending on the fillers. >> Some of them look good though >> with the fillers. Well, just with the work >> beast on look. >> No, I'm talking like what's what's the oldest Kardashian? The the queen the queen of the Kardashians. Not the kids. The the older lady. >> Yeah. Yeah. What is her name?

30:48>> Chris. Yeah. >> Cuz I don't know who she's working with, but she must have she must have wizards. She has squad. Yeah, she has a squad. Tommy >> has a little prayer for him. Prayer for her. >> Cast a spell. >> Yeah. >> He uses warlock magic to >> They That's like a big project for these guys. They probably have >> That's not a simple fix.

31:06She's like 109 and she looks 18. >> Those are artists, by the way. That's a filter. >> That's fine. >> That's not what she really looks like. There's no way they did that to her neck. But like when you see her in real life on her television show, she does look very good for her age. >> Yeah. >> But she doesn't look like that.

31:24>> And then Caitlyn did the opposite. Caitlyn could not look worse. >> Yeah. >> Caitlyn's like giving up like sad actually. >> Yeah. Like he like she'll walk in with a big handbag [ __ ] and the hair the hair is all naughty and it's like spooky. >> Yeah, it's weird. >> It's spooky. >> Well, I think once you've given up on sex and then you've kind of it's also it's like did Caitlyn Jenner have the excuse me bottom surgery.

31:51>> Has that been confirmed? >> I don't think so. >> I think she did. >> She walks like she has a [ __ ] >> Well, she used to. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess you don't adjust that. keep the same strut. >> That must be hard to adjust to not having a [ __ ] >> Yeah. A long time ago. >> Like you ever get a tooth taken out?

32:05>> Long time ago had the surgery. >> Yeah. According to me. >> But do you ever get like a tooth taken out or something and it's like it's like weird to adjust to it for a while. Not having a penis must be [ __ ] >> might take a while. >> But now you have a tube. You have a hole that you have to keep dilated with a rubber.

32:22>> Comes with instructions on how to clean it properly and [ __ ] >> Do you ever clean a pocket [ __ ] It's the most disgusting thing I've ever done in my life. We used to have a sponsorship with a flashlight. >> Yeah. And but that's the problem is it's all fun and games until you got to wash it [laughter] and and then you you're just like this rubber sleeve under the sink and >> [ __ ] dead squid.

32:42>> Yeah. I got one at home too. It's got it was a [laughter] it was a gift on a on a podcast. Some chick some porn star was like I guess she like >> oh had it molded from her own >> dipped her [ __ ] in in clay or whatever the [ __ ] Yeah. And then she was handing out Yeah. >> Nice. Mine was sented. >> Yeah.

32:58I watched an episode of the Kardashians where they were all sitting around the living room and and Caitlyn came over and it was just just like what what do you know? It's one thing to be an old person is okay. Like you know, you get old. We're all going to get old. We're all going to look [ __ ] >> when we get old.

33:16>> But that's different. >> You have like crazy long hair and fake boobs and you look insane. You look like an old man with fake boobs. >> Yeah. I just think if I was to become a lady, I think I'd be a real [ __ ] fem [ __ ] >> I think I'd be a bad [ __ ] Or at least I'd be doing my best to be. I don't think I would.

33:32>> What you do? >> I think I would [ __ ] go out with the girls shopping, >> right? >> Really get them to compliment me. Make me feel good. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. I think I'd have a nice haircut. I would I'd shave probably. That could be a good start, >> right? Maybe just get laser [ __ ] all over your face.

33:48>> I'd get laser [ __ ] everywhere. >> Doesn't grow back. >> Lasered. Yeah. >> Yeah. You don't want to worry about stubble. Like, >> no. >> You know. >> Yeah. >> Why you eating [ __ ] [laughter] >> Pretending to be a lesbian. >> That's the thing about the weird the weird ones are the ones that [snorts] they do it and then they're still straight.

34:09>> Yeah. >> That's called autogyophilia. >> Autogyophilia. >> Yeah. They get aroused by the idea of pretending to be a woman and they get sexually aroused and they're attracted to women, >> right? But do they [clears throat] only do that in the bedroom or is this like they have they have to live it like that all the time?

34:24>> Not anymore. Now that these >> we >> the new openness of our society allows them to go out in public and >> get excited and go into the women's room with a hard [ __ ] [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Don't blame them. >> This is the thing about like being open and progressive and just being like, you know, accepting of people there.

34:41You're accepting also of sexual deviants. Like there are people that aren't just transgender. They're [ __ ] perverts and sex offenders. The old school ones. Like when I was a kid, >> there's old school sex offenders. It was normal. Now they just identify as a woman and they get a Willy Wonka golden ticket.

35:02You could just >> What do you mean they get they get sent to like a female prison or whatever? >> Well, they definitely can do that in some places. California at last count when I looked had 47 biological males that were housed in women's prisons. Yeah, >> some of them have gotten women pregnant. They keep their dick.

35:19There's like there's no requirement in terms of as long as you identify. New Jersey is the same way. As long as you identify, it's it's like there's a selfidentification thing. You identify as a woman, you're allowed to go into a woman's prison. >> Do they make you do some Do they make you like put on like high heels or anything and kind of [laughter] >> I don't think they get high heels.

35:39>> There's got to be a test. >> I don't think there is. >> There's got to be some sort of a feminine test. All you have to do is get offended if they suggest that you're not a woman. >> Yeah, that's all you got to do. >> They're like, I'm a [ __ ] woman. Okay. >> Female tests where you go like, "Oh, it's, you know, it's it's my dad's birthday.

35:55I'm not going to buy him a card." And she's like, "You have to buy him a card." You know, they really test them, >> you know. Should I call my father today? You know, and he like, "No." You go. Very man manly response right there. [laughter] >> Very manly response. >> Yeah. It's uh I mean, look, I wouldn't want to be the type of person who feels like you're trapped in the wrong body.

36:16It's got to be horrible. I'm It's not I don't have sympathy for them, >> but my position has always been like, "Hey, but whatever happened to perverts?" Do >> you know, you've just given perverts a license to be around women by just saying that they're a woman? >> Sure. >> You, you know, there's no way of dis there's no distinction.

36:33There's no way there's no way to to differentiate between someone who has gender dysphoria and someone who's just a pervert who's operating out of a loophole. >> Yeah. I But you could probably argue that's the same with everywhere in life, right? In terms of like >> That's a big one though. >> Yeah, >> that's a big one.

36:51>> But people are scamming any everywhere. There's con artists everywhere, you know? I I I could be from [ __ ] I could [clears throat] be from America and pretending to be Irish cuz I thought this would be like a way to [ __ ] swindle people. If you were, you would really be like wasting your talent at voices, >> you know?

37:07[laughter] >> Well, my my accent's barely Irish anymore. My accent everyone I know for a fact everyone in Ireland is going to be watching this going [ __ ] stupid American accent. What's he doing? >> That's crazy >> cuz it's soft as [ __ ] and it's real soft cuz all my friends are Irish. My wife's Irish.

37:20Sorry, all my friends are American. My wife's American. I just sort of talk around them and I podcast so much that you hear the the >> Yeah, but you've got the the d there's a >> Yeah, there's a stupid There's a way that Irish people talk that differentiates them from other people with >> Yeah. And then when I go home, I I I I suck it in.

37:38Everyone I'm listening to, I get it back. It's thick as [ __ ] And then I come back here and no one understands me for a week and then it just sort of disappears. It floats away. >> See, to me, you sound very Irish. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But to them, I sound like a prick. >> Really? >> Really? Yeah. Like you've softened up.

37:52>> Softened up a lot. >> There's old clips of me on YouTube and stuff where my accent's thick as [ __ ] Conor McGregor style [ __ ] what's the story? How's everybody doing? >> Wow. >> And now now I'm like going to put the trash put the trash out or whatever. >> But even when you're saying put the trash.

38:08>> Yeah. I guess there's little things in there. >> Yeah. Little right there. >> Yeah. >> But to them, this is very They'll notice this. They'll notice little things and and they'll DM me and call me a fraud and a [ __ ] and [laughter] >> and I'll go, "I'm sorry. I just There's not enough Irish people in my life anymore.

38:23>> How often do you go back? >> Uh, I usually go back twice a year. Um, this this year I didn't go back, but next year I've got like four trips booked already. I got a bunch of shows. If anyone wants to come out and see me, please come see me. Yeah, I'm doing shows in Dublin and uh, Limick and Cor. >> That's [ __ ] cool.

38:40>> Yeah, [snorts] I'm excited to go back. Yeah, I've never been able to like I have a bigger audience here because like most of my career has been here and everyone like has been through Legion of Skanks and Ari and all these type of fans have come to me. So I don't really have the Irish accent. So or sorry I don't really have the Irish audience.

38:54So I go back >> that's ridiculous. >> Yeah, >> because they get online too. They must be >> they do. I have a few I have a few. But if I was in Ireland doing jokes about [ __ ] Ireland that I would be I think I'd be much bigger. When you go back, do you have a bunch of Irish material >> about Ireland?

39:12>> Uh, not really. No, >> no, >> no. Well, it changes. The place changes so much. I don't know. I have stuff about my dad I talk about a lot. I'll talk about my dad a lot. Like my dad, he's very Irish dad. You know what I mean? And uh just like he's just like interesting guy. He used to be really angry my whole life and then one day I think he stopped working and now he's the nicest guy.

39:31>> [laughter] >> You know, I think there's something about your someday your I think your dad is a mean prick until one day when you're like a a grown-up and then they just go, "Ah, you're all right then." Like they ease ease off, you know? >> Well, one thing that happens, you get out of their house so they don't have to take care of you anymore.

Irish famine and drinking culture

39:46They start changing again. They get the [ __ ] out of their house. >> Yeah. You get out of their house and you're not their responsibility anymore and then they can relax and are around you. >> And then if you're doing all right with your life, you've developed a career or what have you. >> Yeah. Yeah, then they're all right when they're around you.

40:02>> But my my friends used to call my my dad's name is Aiden. My friends used to have a nickname for him called Raging Aiden cuz he was such a notorious [ __ ] And one time we were we were 18 or 17. We're going to a concert and two of my friends were in the house. We're just drinking pre-drinking and he came home from work or whatever and he's like, "How's it going?"

40:18And he's like raging and he's like mad. And then he just at one point someone made a joke and he goes, "Get the [ __ ] OUT OF MY HOUSE." OLLIES, "Get the [ __ ] out of my house." And he grabbed the beers and threw them out into the street. Goes, "Get the [ __ ] out of And my friend Bill, he walked off down the road and then my dad comes out and goes, "Bill, come here.

40:33Get back here. Get back here." He walks all day up. He goes, "Get the [ __ ] out of my face. [laughter] He just saw and now >> you just hate his job." >> I don't know. Yeah. He used to work as a plumber. So, I think he just hated his job. I think he's just stressed about financial [ __ ] and everything.

40:46And now he's like retired and he gardens and he's a sweet little old pathetic man. It's not He's like a He's like my my my nieces have the best version of him ever. >> Wow. He's just in the garden all day just planting and he'll send me photos of flowers. That's like I'm like, "Who is this guy? What happened?"

41:03Yeah. >> Well, how many people are ruined by a job they hate that they have to show up every day, >> just be living in [ __ ] and stress all day long and then come home and realize that all that work that you did and you still can barely pay pay your bills. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> That's the problem. >> Yeah.

41:19>> Yeah. I mean, what's that thorough quote? Most men live lives of quiet desperation. >> Wow. >> Yeah. That's heavy [ __ ] And it's true. Most men are out there working right now. Not that women aren't, but you know, that's the it's the male quote because >> yeah, >> it's there's something about working these brutal, horrible jobs where you're still barely making enough money for food.

41:42>> That's crazy. And you wasted your life and then all of a sudden you're 60, you know, and then you're like, well, what am I doing? >> Yeah, it's tough in America sometimes, too. It was like you want to go to you go to Waffle House >> and it's nice cuz Waffle House is gray but the people working there >> are like the saddest humans alive.

41:57Like it's like they're no one wants to be a Waffle House. They're like just old. >> Not only that, it's you're going to see fights five nights a week. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're exhausted. >> The odds of going to a Waffle House and seeing a brawl are very high. >> What is it about? It's like the [ __ ] bat signal for [ __ ] aggressive.

42:18[laughter] >> I know. It's more so than a diner. Like it's very rare you see a brawl at a diner like a 24-hour diner. >> Denny's. No one's ever fought in Denny's in the life. >> Most of the time. >> Waffle House is [ __ ] Royal Rumble. [laughter] Waffle House is just viral video after viral video. Are they organizing it?

42:33Maybe. >> I don't. >> Like is that like a good thing? >> I think it's where Waffle Houses are. It's probably like they're in an area that's like more [ __ ] up or something. >> Yeah. But I mean, when you're drunk and it's like 2:00 in the morning and you can get waffles, like [ __ ] yeah. With butter and syrup >> and and you can get everything.

42:52Eggs, bacon, >> chicken, fried steak, >> anything you want. >> Let's go. >> And you can sit in a little boot with a couple of friends, >> have some coffee, talk some [ __ ] >> and then next thing you know, some some fat [ __ ] skips you in the line or something, and then >> [ __ ] Waffle House, bro. >> But you ever see that one with the where the the the lady who worked there, skinny little white chick with tattoos?

43:13[ __ ] them all up. She was this tiny skinny girl and all these big [ __ ] fat ladies were screaming at her. I'm going to [ __ ] you up. And she came out. She goes, "You want a [ __ ] girl?" Cuz the people that work there aren't like chumps either. >> No, >> they have to go through some sort of probably >> It's called jail.

43:27[laughter] >> They have to do a minimum of jail. They have to have a jail experience to work at Waffle House. Yeah. >> Yeah. How many salon batteries you have? Okay. Three. >> You could be a manager. [laughter] You can go train all the other staff how to defend themselves at 2:00 in the morning from a fork to the neck.

43:44Yeah. >> Yeah. And it doesn't close. That's the other thing. Like if you're a person looking for something to eat or do and it's 4:00 in the morning, you don't have a lot of options. And those people, if you're up that late, most likely you've made some poor choices. >> Yeah. Well, or I don't know. >> Or good ones.

44:03>> Great ones. [laughter] You know, I grew up in Ireland. Fist fights all the time. Mhm. >> So when we the nightclubs used to end at 4:00 in the morning in Dublin City Center and everyone stayed out till 4:00, it was like it it was wasn't even an option to go home before the bar closed. If that makes sense.

44:22I've never in my life heard of someone going, "Ah, it's 2:00. I better go." And you go, "No, there's two more hours of drinking. We're here. [laughter] That's that's just the way it worked. I don't know why. We just love it so much." >> And we Why is that? I I think well apparently the Vikings used to have to drink a lot of alcohol because that would kill the bacteria in the water.

44:41So there's I think there's probably some sort of a thing that was just passed down through generations of uh I also think it's probably a whole lot of uh repressed [ __ ] trauma over the years that we can only let out when we get blackout drunk and puke. Uh that's our therapy. You know >> there are a lot of stories in ancient days of people who drank nothing but beer.

45:04>> Yeah. They just drank beer. That's what they're out. So, everyone was drunk all the time. >> Yeah. >> Which is really crazy if you think about >> But you get to a point where you're kind of you're not drunk drunk, but you're kind of buzzed, >> right? >> All day every day you're just a little bit horny.

45:19[laughter] >> Just a little bit. >> And also like that just the liver poisoning like >> Yeah. But you're probably dying in your 60s back then anyway. >> Probably killed by a sword. >> [ __ ] honorable way to go. >> Yeah. before you're ever getting liver disease. >> But they did that at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin, too.

45:35All these guys would the old Coopers would make the the barrels and they'd make millions of these per year. And they had a free supply of Guinness to drink all day. So these guys would go to work and they would drink 12 points of Guinness all day while they're [ __ ] working. And then after work, they'd go down to the Guinness bar, the pub, and spend that spend the money they just earned.

45:57>> Keep rolling. >> And Yeah. And then actually start drinking. The the one [laughter] that they wanted during the day was uh >> moderation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They and and you got a job there when you were 12 and you were drinking six pints a day from 12. >> Wa. >> Everyone was drinking young. Everyone's drinking young.

46:10>> Wow. >> When my dad was growing up, he he would go to pubs when he was 12. Like so. >> Holy [ __ ] >> He's like 70 now. So that was back in the day. >> Holy [ __ ] >> But like it's just a drinking culture. And it's 18 now, which means the law is 18, but we let you at 15 if you're a chick, 16 if you're a fella.

46:25[laughter] That's of the >> That's when people start drinking. >> Yeah. >> In pubs. >> In nightclubs for sure because you'd use your I used my older brother's ID when I was he was four years older than me. So he was 18. So he would have been 20 and I was 16 using his ID. But all the girls I grew up with would go in even younger cuz the bouncers like see a cute 15y old walk up.

46:47They kind of let them go in. Then I walk in like [ __ ] covered in pimples like a [ __ ] [ __ ] They go, "No, you're not allowed in." [laughter] And I go, "Well, that was my girlfriend." He go, "Not tonight." There's a some sort of a series on uh I think it's on Netflix about the Guinness family. Have you seen it?

47:03>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's like a I heard it's crazy. It's a drama. >> It's like a Peiquey Blinders type deal. >> It's kind of weird. Yeah. It's weird. The accents are weird and everything. So, it's like it's tough to watch and they sound like I [ __ ] sound, but uh >> it sounds shitty. Like it doesn't sound like a good Irish [clears throat] accent.

47:16>> H not not all of them. Some of them are from Ireland, but yeah. >> So, is it uh American actors faking it? It's a it's it's by the way it's loosely loosely based on the this certain generation of the Guinness family. >> Can we listen to some of this? >> I don't know if there's any talking >> and our thoughts and prayers are most [music] of all >> with Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness's four children.

47:43>> We expected something something better than before >> from the creators of Pey Blinders. >> A gift from Mr. against a war >> from a representative of the Dublin poor. >> Trouble is brewing behind are weak and divided. >> Now is the TIME TO USE THAT WEAKNESS. [cheering] >> You think there'll be trouble today?

48:11>> The man's name is Guinness. Of >> course that'll be [ __ ] trouble. So that accent's >> Yeah, he's a >> [ __ ] >> He's faking it. >> Yeah, but but that little guy they had as a leprechaun, for some reason, they literally introduced him. He goes, I [ __ ] don't have don't I'll I'll sell your Guinness in New York.

48:30Sure, I will. You know, >> you know, so in Ireland, this is [ __ ] sh. >> It's kind of amazing with people being that drunk all the time that anything ever got done. >> Poetry, that's what you know, the writing. We did all that. >> We never we never did. We never figured out like, you know, uh, you know, finance or any of that important [ __ ] But we we we had a good time.

48:53We have a good time. >> Yeah. You know, lot of singing. >> A lot of singing, dancing, plays, writing, talking. We talk so nonstop about everything. >> Everything. And conversation in Ireland is one of the most fun thing cuz you'll be laughing one second and then crying the next. It's sort of just a roller coaster of they love getting into the nitty-gritty of like horrible things.

49:17For some reason, Irish Irish people, we feed on misery, you know, >> to booze thing probably. >> It's a depressant. >> I Yeah. I just I don't know what it is. I think it's just we have to fill the dead air. So, it's like anytime I talk to my and I didn't really notice this until I started bringing my wife to Ireland and she's like very heavy subjects and I was like I never even noticed but like we'd be having the the dinner and then suddenly my mom would just go oh you know your cousin uh she

49:42was dating a guy called Jerry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He died. He's [ __ ] got hit by a car last night, you know. And or they'll bring up someone who lost a baby or whatever. Just all the time it's always like just misery and you I don't even know this guy. What are you telling me? >> I don't know my cousin.

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49:55What the [ __ ] you talking about? And they love it though. They love a little bit of [ __ ] misery. >> What do you think that is? >> I don't know. I think it comes I don't know. Probably just passed down from like the famine or something where you where we where we where we talked about it. >> Yeah.

50:12>> You know, cuz the famine is a weird one that kind of still >> What was the cause of the famine? >> The British. >> The British did it. What did they do? >> They took all our food. They left. They so the when Britain was in control of Ireland in the 1800s, but that was the dates. Um, [snorts] well, there was like two two major famines, right?

50:34I'm probably getting the dates wrong, but they gave the Catholics the shittier land. They took off they they pushed the Catholics off the good land that could grow carrots and cabbage and and whatever. They pushed into the shitty land and the only thing that could grow on the shitty land was the potatoes.

50:50And then when the potato plight happened, h it wiped out the potatoes. It was the entire food source. But we were still producing loads of food, but that was all getting shipped over to the crown. So the the crowd, so it was like a forced ex uh forced famine or forced starvation even. >> How many people died?

51:09>> I don't know. I don't know the number, but it it it rocked the and the amount of people that left too. >> Holy [ __ ] Between 1845 and 1852 about 1 million people died from starvation and disease and roughly 2 million immigrated between 1845 and 1855 potato blight triggered the crisis but poverty dependence on one crop and the British government policies made its consequences far worse.

51:34A [ __ ] million people I think a lot of people in Ireland years a lot of people in Ireland would think that's a little bit too favorable to how much the British government actually played a role in that [ __ ] But uh >> but I don't know where my family was back then, you know. I don't know. So I don't know how many ancestors I would have had back then.

51:50Must be like a hundred or something like people that I'm came from. I don't know who was affected by it. Who was doing well, >> right? >> I don't know. Like >> probably no one was doing real well. It sounds like >> I don't know. >> It sounds like if there's a starvation going on, it's probably rough times >> if you're poor.

52:05If you're if you're living in a nice house and you're [ __ ] doing something. One of the most painful facts is that the food continued to leave Ireland while people starved. The story is not simply that Ireland exported food and imported none. Grain imports also rose sharply. The crucial distinction between the food being available in the economy and starving people having the money or assistance needed to obtain it.

52:24Crop failure alone does not explain the scale of the deaths. So perplexity is giving us the nuance details. M >> it says this guy worsening >> inactions of Lord John Russell's government >> worsening the disaster >> but they say there's a there's a gene it affected the gene there's a there's a there's a there's a gene where certain Irish people h can use less calories that their body will store the calories because they survive through those times of no >> right yeah I've heard of that before so

52:59there's a longevity gene that's associated ated with it >> really. >> Yeah. Like people that are the descendants of starving people apparently live longer and they're more robust >> really. But what if if you have an infant like like you know today's world we're so focused on making sure all our infants and everyone has got got the good [ __ ] You know there's entire generations of kids who were born not getting nutrients into their brain.

53:22So would that have like a long-term effect on because eventually they >> would they be like a you know stupid for lack of a better word and then they pass that on like would that have affected the national average IQ of Ireland? >> It's a good question. >> Is that why we like to drink and dance so much because we're all we starved ourselves a little dumb.

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54:36>> I don't think it was great either. >> It doesn't seem like it was. It was great before the English showed up and then they kind of pushed us off our land and everything. But that's why the Irish love Palestine so much because they just built in our system, built in our culture of supporting the underdog, I guess.

54:52>> Sure. >> You know, um, no matter what that's going on, I think we just will naturally side towards the people who are getting genocided rather than the other people. >> Well, I mean, that's kind of across the whole world now. >> Now it is now. Yeah. The that's the weird thing about Jewish people in America.

55:10That's their There's a lot of people that I know. Uh I love them to death, but they have a blind spot. And that blind spot is their Jewish identity in Israel. And they refuse to say it's it's a genocide. >> They refuse to condemn it. And they they come up with reasons why they had to bomb those buildings and Hamas did this and Hamas did that and October 7th this.

55:31And >> yeah, I'm kind of over it now, though. I kind of wish Israel was just going to hurry up, wipe them off so we can move on. But I don't think it's I think it's just it's going on a little long now, Joe. And I don't think they're going to change anything. So wipe him out. Wipe out West Bank and then like why is Mmore back in my timeline?

55:46Because of Israel. >> Yeah. >> So >> well because he made that stance free Palestine. >> But there would have been a stance to make if Israel just hurry up and wipe him out cuz they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. It's going to just keep going. >> Jesus. >> Don't you think it's like do you see a do you see a solution?

56:02>> Calm down, lad. Are you trying to be the 2026 Tommy Tieran [laughter] and >> that wasn't bad actually. Oh, [ __ ] karma. Um, sure. >> Yeah. Uh, the weird thing is they just had an election, right? And so Netanyahu might be out and apparently this new guy is more hardcore than Netanyahu. >> Really?

56:21Oh, I thought it was going to swing the other way. >> Listen, I'm very peripherilally paying attention to this. It's like, what's going on over there? Oh god. Like I read an article like one paragraph in I shut the laptop. I'm like I can't do this. >> There's only so much you can take in. >> I don't want to take anymore anymore.

56:35I I feel completely overwhelmed. And the days that I feel great are the days that I don't absorb anything. >> Yeah. 100%. >> I stay offline. I stay out of the social media and whatever people are screaming about. Live updates. Uh the close race sets the stage for weeks of negotiations over the next government.

56:53Neither Prime Minister and Minister Benjamin Netanyahu nor his main challenger, how would you say that name? >> Gotti. >> Gotti Isenot were projected to gain a parliamentary majority. Okay. So, they're going to duke it out and maybe someone dies in a bomb. [laughter] Weeks of negotiation and maybe a drone attack.

57:15[ __ ] >> I saw He's rough though, right? Isn't he like uh He's pretty hardcore. >> No idea. They said it was a 16% turnout and it was a record number of votes or something. That's crazy. That's because everyone lives in Brooklyn. All most Israel people or something live in America. I think they Is that >> Well, obviously they I don't know, but I think a lot of them live in America.

57:35A lot of Israeli. Is that why it's only 16%? Cuz that's even that's particularly low. >> That seems crazy. >> This is by the way just a tweet that I saw that I'm not going to take as fact. But >> what's a good election in America? Let's What's our turnout? I don't think >> 50 is good. I think I I believe 50% of people in America vote and then it's half and half pretty much neck and neck even though you know this way and then of that half like >> so here it says less hardcore in

58:03domestic politics and political style but not clearly less hardline on military force or Palestinian statethood. Eisenkot is better understood as a security hawk offering an alternative to Netanyahu's leadership and far-right allies, not a dovish, dovish alternative to Israel security policy on military force.

58:23Very hawkish. Former Israeli military chief Eisenot broadly supported operations in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran associated with uh how do you say that word? Dya Deia doctrine uh using overwhelming force including against civilian infrastructure to deter enemy attacks. His quieter manner should not be mistaken for reluctance to use devastating force.

58:48Oh, fun. >> What a fun place. >> Nice. >> Fun. I I know people that go back over there to visit, like Jewish folks. I'm like, what? This seems like a risky place to visit. >> Seems like anything could pop off over there. Have you ever been to a war zone? >> No. Have you? >> No. But I I feel like >> you want to.

59:11>> No, [laughter] >> I don't. But I feel like it could be [ __ ] it could wake it would wake me up a little. >> I had [ __ ] Rick Springfield on you know Jesse's Girl. You know that girl? I wish that I had Jesse's Girl. >> So when he was 18, >> he went to Vietnam uh to perform for the troops. He was in a band and uh he was in a [ __ ] war zone.

Vietnam War and conspiracy theories

59:34Like they got shot at. Like he lobbed mortars and apparently killed one of the Vietkong. >> They they threw him a [ __ ] grenade. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they they were lobbing mortars and one of the guys told him, "Hey, you got one." And [laughter] so this is like to this day it [ __ ] with him cuz he's in his 70s now.

59:52And he's like, "I [ __ ] killed a guy when I was 18." >> I didn't sign up for that. >> I was Well, he didn't sign up for anything. He was over there to perform music >> and they just got ambushed or something like that and then they decided you got to fight your way out. >> No, they just allowed him to do it.

1:00:06Hey, you want to you want to drop a bomb? >> Oh, like this is this is an easy kill. Would you like to take the kill? >> I something along those lines. Would you like to [laughter] participate? You know, we have some bombs. Would you >> like to kill this guy? But it's it's pretty easy. He's already wounded.

1:00:18You can have him if >> Well, he's trying to kill you. So, what do you want to do? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. You want to lob a bomb? And I guess he did. I think Vietnam is all times one of the scariest ideas to me ever. Being in the jungle like do you ever just walk through the woods of the forest anywhere and it's a little spooky?

1:00:36>> Oh yeah. >> But being in a jungle a lot without the Vietnamese trying to kill you just walking through that jungle alone between the snakes and everything, the tigers. >> Oh yeah. >> You know, not only that, you don't know that area and they've been living there their whole lives. >> Exactly. >> And they dig tunnels.

1:00:54>> Yeah. And some guys would have to climb into the tunnels to kill the Vietnamese. >> [ __ ] that. [ __ ] that. I'm not I'm going to overeat so I can't fit in the [ __ ] things or something. I'm finding some reason, [laughter] >> right? Cuz some of those tunnels are pretty small. >> Tiny little things.

1:01:09Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz the Vietnam people were very small people. >> But even if I like when I go camping and stuff like that, I'll be in the middle of the night. You just hear it like you'll hear a twig snap from something. And I'm scared it's a [ __ ] whatever mountain line or something if knowing it was a human with a [ __ ] carrying a knife in his mouth and [ __ ] sneaking in to just like slit my throat.

1:01:29That kind that's nothing scary than that. >> And then these guys are just sent back >> and we're supposed to just [ __ ] listen to the mamas and the papas or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Everyone else is dancing, smoking weed, going, "Hey, welcome back." And these guys are like, "Yeah, I'm fried, bro." >> And they're doing heroin and they're [ __ ] hanging out and everyone knows the war is [ __ ] Yeah.

1:01:49>> And you're probably going to die. There's no reason to be over there. No, none of it makes any sense. And now we know that the entire premise for entering into the war was fabricated >> really. >> The Gulf of Tonkan incident. >> Yeah. I'm not familiar. >> The Gulf of Tonkan incident is a false flag that occurred um during the before the war got popped off.

1:02:07There was already some operations over there and they uh claimed that the uh the Vietkong had attacked and blown up an American warship in the Gulf of Tonkan. It never happened. It's all fake. >> And uh and not only that, >> one of the guys that was involved in that perpetrating that was Jim Morrison from The Doors.

1:02:31It was his dad. >> Really? >> Yeah. His dad. There's a lot of like crazy [ __ ] involved in like the musical movement of the 1960s. There's a great book called uh it's not I wouldn't say a great book. It's a weird book. What is it? Strange Times in the Canyon. Is that what it's called? >> Yeah, something like that.

1:02:51>> Something like that. But it's all about how many of these people from the counterculture movement in the 60s had connections to military intelligence. >> Interesting. >> Yeah, it's very weird. >> Weird scenes. weird seeds inside the canyon. So like it was almost orchestrated for particular. >> That's the conspiracy theory angle, right?

1:03:11The conspiracy the theory angle is this is all orchestrated by the government and that the CIA was manipulating people's minds trying to get society to unravel. >> Yeah. >> And that they But I I I only buy so much of it because I'm like, how do you make a guy as talented as Jim Morrison? How do you make the doors?

1:03:28If the CIA can make Jimmyi Hendricks, why don't they make more of them? Sure. >> Seems pretty awesome. Like why why wouldn't you? >> Maybe they have. Maybe the modern day they learned that like Lady Gaga will do or whatever. Maybe that's like the new thing. >> Maybe Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga is working for the CIA.

1:03:45There's probably somebody believes that. >> Yeah, >> there's probably some some theory about Lady Gaga. >> Everyone's a plant now. That's the new thing. Everyone's a plant. That's what they say. Anyone who's successful, they go plant. >> I go in the comments sometimes and I see all the people that they think are plants.

1:04:00>> You're you're a plant. >> I'm That's what they think. Yeah, it's kind of interesting that I'm not It's interesting to me that I'm not like It's interesting to me that no one has tried to recruit me or pay me or hire me or influence me to do things. They definitely come on the show and say some things that aren't true >> and I'm aware of that and I feel like all I can do is like hear their perspective, let the world make their own distinction.

1:04:25And I think people are pretty good at it these days. [ __ ] this guy. He's this. He's that. He's working for this guy and working for that guy. But >> if you talk to enough people, they'll assume that you've been recruited. >> But the really fascinating thing is I haven't. That's what's really fascinating.

1:04:40The really fascinating thing is that no one has any influence over what goes on this show other than me. >> Maybe they have you and you don't even know it. Maybe you're under their spell, Joe. >> Right. Like a Vurian candidate. >> They [ __ ] they hacked your Instagram account. Like so now you're getting particular things into the feed.

1:04:56Something like that. this like this is a >> Would that be on would that be crazy? >> Well, it wouldn't be crazy, but that's not going to work cuz I barely go on Instagram. All right, >> that's not going to work. And the Instagram stuff that I get to, it's almost like ancient history [ __ ] and >> Yeah.

1:05:08>> You know, >> that's nice. >> Bar fights. >> Sure. Sure. >> A lot of assassinations. >> Really? >> A lot of like uh South American assassinations. Yeah. >> Like the presidential stuff. >> Well, no. Uh people just getting whacked in a diner or a pool hall. Someone comes in and just [ __ ] blows some guy's brains out in front of everybody.

1:05:23And then how do you feel after you put your phone down? It's >> not great. [laughter] >> Well, that's one of the reasons why I try to stay off of it. >> You're you're ignoring your kids going, "Sorry, I got to watch this uh I got to watch this guy getting shot in the [ __ ] head." >> No, I I try not to do it at home.

1:05:36At home, >> you got you The only solution is just to get it and throw it in a [ __ ] river and we all just go back to kind of >> Well, I've been toying with the idea of moving away from a smartphone. >> Have you seen the stuff with the TVs going on? They call it a dumb phone, right? >> Yeah. Smart Samsung TVs might use the mics of connected devices to listen to you.

1:05:57>> They they they're definitely listening. >> So people always think listening, but it's every other device around you listening and then >> sending it to an ad company. >> Yeah, that's the thing is like there's there's terms of services like that you sign up for when you uh click accept and you don't even read those [ __ ] things.

1:06:15And some of them like the Tik Tok one is insane. >> Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if it is insane now, but the old Tik Tok one was Tik Tok if you had a phone and that phone had Tik Tok on it. Tik Tok was allowed to have access to the other computers that are on the network that don't have Tik Tok on them.

1:06:35So, you're essentially allowing whatever that program is, whatever the software is >> to access passwords, keystrokes, your microphone, all kinds of wild [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> It's like some security expert looked at it and said it is one of the worst pieces of software I've ever read. >> These are the new guys who bought it and then they Is it >> No, this is before >> this is the old guys who was forced to sell it >> and now it's >> the old Chinese guys or whatever.

1:07:05>> Yeah. Now it's owned by the same people that own CNN, CBS. They they >> That's good. Let them own everything. Let [ __ ] give them everything at this point. [laughter] >> You'll you'll change the narrative if you just own all forms of conversation. >> Well, it's going to be interesting to see what they do with CNN, right?

1:07:22So, all of a sudden, these uh Israel supporters own CNN. >> Yeah. >> So, let's see what happens. >> Well, it's probably just a nail in the coffin for all this mainstream [ __ ] right? >> Probably, you know. >> Yeah. >> It's tough. It's tough to kind of People watch people like love that like people will sit down.

1:07:39>> The olds. >> The Yeah. The boomers. >> Yeah. You know, >> the olds who are tired and their knees hurt >> and they're a little scared because they're old and then this guy's telling them why they should be scared. Whatever it is, Fox News, CNN, and it's the same talking points. It's the same [ __ ] >> Yep.

1:07:54Yep. >> You know, and then they just in then they'll they'll be like, "Breaking news coming up." And then they'll push some [ __ ] pharmaceutical [ __ ] on you, you know. >> Yeah. You got your two types of olds. You got the old boomers that are liberals that are basically like they have dried out brains and they just they just support narratives no matter what.

1:08:14>> I don't really know any old liberals to be honest. >> You don't? Oh, old liberals are fascinating because they get violently angry when you confront them with facts. >> Sure. >> They get very angry. >> Yeah. >> Whereas old conservatives are worried about like immigration. >> They're worried about >> They're in a state of fear though.

1:08:31>> Yeah. Yeah. They're both in a state of fear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, olds, a lot of the olds, they get in a state of fear cuz they're dying. >> They know the end is near and they know their health is >> and they still think TV is truth. They they were raised on news is truth. >> Oh, yeah.

1:08:46>> And then they still have that. >> Yeah. >> And they take all their boosters now. >> This is what they have now. >> Sky Dance is the name of the company. >> Yeah. So, they have all the HBO's, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Plus, >> um, >> Nickelodeon. >> Yeah, they Nickelodeon. What do we think about Palestine?

1:09:02>> TBS, Smithsonian, TNT, >> TNT. Wow. Warner Brothers. >> The top two. >> What are What are the other ones? Adult Swim. Wow. >> Cartoon Network. >> All these cartoons. It's crazy. >> That's crazy. Country Music Channel. Wow. >> Food Network. Golf. >> Cooking. They got own the golf [snorts] >> and DC Comics.

1:09:21>> There's also the Golf Channel. >> [ __ ] They own everything. That is crazy. Eurosport. That is Discovery. That's crazy. I'll be I'd love I'd love to own all that to be honest. >> What would you do? Animal plan. >> I would sort of just I don't know. I'd probably just like [ __ ] with people who bullied me when I was younger or something.

1:09:37Just like [laughter] put out this put out a random little news article every now and again about some guy having a little dick. >> They own the free press. They own everything. It's a It's a strange time. But it's like the all that mainstream stuff other than things like Paramount Plus and streaming networks that show shows and and you know that things that people actually still watch, most people are [ __ ] tuned out to that.

1:10:00Young people are just like, you're not going to get them. No, >> they're done. >> It's it's Yeah, it's >> It'd be crazy to meet a a 20-year-old who sits down and puts on a little bit of [ __ ] CNN at night >> and really is invested in. Wow. >> Wow. Did you >> I didn't know. >> Yeah. It's like the most boring and it's it's like embarrassing.

1:10:18It's like >> things whizzing by the screen and [ __ ] like that coming up. Breaking news coming up. It's like it's been been coming up forever. >> Jimmy Carr was on the podcast yesterday and one of the things that he brought up was that was it was it his father that he was talking about who recognized that when they started putting music on the news.

1:10:37>> Yeah, I think I think he so when they started putting music on the news like oh [ __ ] they're making it breaking news. They hired some movie director. >> Yeah. And then it zooms in to [ __ ] Anderson Cooper standing there with his glasses on looking very intelligent, very professional, >> standing in front of a big big screen TV.

1:10:56Yeah. >> Breaking news today. >> We've got some bar charts that that mean nothing. >> Yes. >> And you sit there and go, "Hm, I'm learning." And then but a lot of people watch that [ __ ] too. And then you go, "What did you just watch?" And they go, "I don't really know." >> They just got upset. >> They kind of just Yeah.

1:11:09They kind of just phase out with the headlines. Well, no. It's the numbers are very low, which is really crazy that people are still willing to buy it. Like, I don't know why you wouldn't understand that that's a dying thing. >> Yeah. Well, once you also know that they have an obligation to the advertisers to Oh, yeah.

1:11:27>> kind of say certain things, then it's like the whole thing is a fraud. >> Well, there's a lot of the old liberals do not want to believe that. And that's one of the things they >> they're not doing it for the good of your their [ __ ] health. They're doing it's a business and your attention is the [ __ ] money.

Pharma ads and Xanax

1:11:39Well, the best piece of evidence is that is they don't criticize pharmaceutical drug companies. >> Yeah. >> Because they're they're a primary advertiser. >> You think it's unethical for to do that? >> Yes. >> To that. >> But there's only two countries that even allow it. United States and New Zealand.

1:11:54>> What's going on over there? >> I [laughter] don't know. Apparently, they're much more restrictive though than us. >> The Kiwis. Yeah. But uh in the United States they allow people like how many [ __ ] ads if you watch regular television do you see that are pharmaceutical drugs that are naming off a bunch of very obscure conditions that you've never even heard of.

1:12:11So why is there enough of a desire for this that you're going to put an ad on television for a very obscure medication? >> Yeah. If if you're sick and you need it, you should be able to find it. Ask your doctor. It shouldn't be impulse like, "Oh, that's that sounds like me. I should I should try that."

1:12:27Ask your doctor column about [ __ ] it all. [laughter] >> I think what's really going on though and you know this has been this is not my take. This is Cali Means and a lot of these other people that their position is that why they do that is not to advertise their drugs so people buy the drugs. They do that so that the networks won't criticize the pharmaceutical drug companies.

1:12:49So they advertise all their various products. Yeah. >> And it gets it out there but more importantly it protects them from the eye of Sauron. Yeah, >> it protects them from the news looking because if their news really was the news, they would look into all the adverse drug deaths and all the different people that die because of these [ __ ] drugs that wind up getting pulled from the market because the FDA didn't do their due diligence when they passed them.

1:13:12Yeah, >> cuz I but I remember with I I was listening to some guy had a role in um you know I guess a big farmer regulations or whatever and they were talking about Perdue Pharma and um the the one of the things that was crazy was they the guy asked him a question. And he goes, "Is Perduru Pharma with all of their uh unethical techniques that they did to push that heroin essentially on um innocent people?

1:13:41Were they operating uniquely in the industry?" And they're like, "No, every single pharmaceutical company follows the exact same way." The problem was is that Perurdu Pharma and the Oxycotton [ __ ] up communities to such a degree that they couldn't get away with it. Whereas Xanax, you could argue is a lot of people addicted to Xanax.

1:13:59[ __ ] people. But it's not enough that people are tweaking and smashing [ __ ] someone's head in at a liquor store for $20. >> Exactly. >> So, they're getting away with it, you know? >> Yeah. >> But it's the same lying on it. >> Yeah. It's the same lying. It's the same [ __ ] It's the same like [ __ ] doctorred results, things like that.

1:14:15>> Have you ever seen someone trying to get off Xanax? >> No, actually. I haven't lived through that. No. >> It is one of the hardest ones apparently. >> I know a few people that have had, but one of them real well and Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is a big one. Like Jordan uh he got addicted to Xanax and it took him a full year.

1:14:33>> Is that why he disappeared for a while? Because of Xanax. >> He had to go through some medical detox in Russia. >> Why Russia? I don't know. >> Pull him into a coma or something. >> I don't know. Maybe [laughter] >> he doesn't really talk too much about it, but he seems different, >> you know, and I think there's a bunch of factors there why he seems different.

1:14:52He was very wise and interesting when I first not that he's not still he's very [snorts] wise very interesting very well read guy but much more um damaged now and whether that is because of health I think it's also the pressure that comes with fame I mean he was a 40some year old professor in Toronto you know who's a psychologist who's he's not a guy who was >> seeking out >> this kind of attention and fame And then all a sudden he's doing lectures in front of tens of thousands of people all

1:15:28over the world like traveling everywhere doing these soldout lectures where he's talking about all kinds of different interesting things and it showed that people have a hunger for fascinating topics and deep discussions and conversations cuz his his lectures were very very popular but I think over time like some of his outbursts and like he's like you know yelled at people online all these different things.

1:15:53I think some of that is just the pressure. Most people don't have any idea what that pressure is like and then you all a sudden get in it when you're in your 40s. >> Yeah. >> And you're never seeking it. And then everywhere you go, you people are misrepresenting who you are >> and trying to make it seem as if you're some evil right-wing racist xenophobic, you know, transphobic homophobic >> Yeah.

1:16:21>> ideologue. It would be exhausting to have to live your life where every single thing is a take that is like a [ __ ] controversial argument with people every cuz everywhere he lives >> you know in conversation is a difficulty. It's not it's not a very simple >> uh you know let's all have ice cream and watch [ __ ] NBA.

1:16:42It's something about surgeons should be [ __ ] losing their license for for operating on trans people or whatever, you know? And that's like just a difficult It's a real heavy life to be in that conversation, >> right? >> All the time. >> All the time. >> Yeah. That's one of the benefits of doing a podcast, especially if you're a comic.

1:17:02Like I could have a guy on one day that talks about that stuff and then the next guy on he, you know, met Bigfoot. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Tell me. Do you have a Is that a Bigfoot t-shirt? the Sasquatch. [ __ ] sure. I went to Mount Rushmore. >> I I bet I'm the ultimate tourist. I'll do it all. >> I love it.

1:17:19I love going to [ __ ] bookies and then getting a photo with the mascot. I went to Mount Rushmore. I did a one of the best trips of my life last summer. I I I I heard about how beautiful Montana is and everything. So, I [ __ ] worked with my agent to get like we went Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, which is probably the most beautiful place in [ __ ] America.

1:17:40pretty gorgeous >> all up there. And now I've got the So, we went everywhere, but over there, which is like I think Rapid City is the closest to Rapid City is nice, but then they've got the like the black mountains um out there, the Black Forest Mountains. It's beautiful out there. Beautiful. So, that's all I want to do now.

1:17:56>> Is there supposedly Bigfoot sightings near Mount Rushmore? >> I don't think there is. That's the funny thing about it. I think I just it was the the only thing that didn't say like I heart [ __ ] Mount Rushmore. So, I I wanted a shirt and I was like, "This will kind of do a Sasquatch type of uh Mount Rushmore shirt."

1:18:10But >> that's a special kind of person, the person who really loves Bigfoot. >> I'd love to go to these places and do a little hunting. >> Duncan and I did it. >> You went looking for the guys. >> Yeah. Duncan Trussell and I I had a show back in 2011 or 12 called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. Yeah.

1:18:26>> And one of the things we like, let's do a deep dive on chemtrails. Let's do a deep dive on UFOs. let's do a deep dive. And so we did a deep dive on uh Bigfoot hunters. So we went and met people that met Bigfoot. We took a lot of it is in the Pacific Northwest. >> Yeah, that's the that's the hub. >> Yeah.

1:18:42Also a lot of meth. Lot of meth. A [laughter] lot of Sasquatch. A lot of heroin. A lot of Sasquatch. >> There is a card. >> Are these the Bigfoot sightings? >> Yeah. Look where the big clump is here. >> Oh, it's in Texas. >> Close to the pod. >> Is Is that where the moonshine's made? >> I have no idea.

1:18:57I just popped it up cuz I was going to >> Is there any near Austin? But there's like there's not >> Yeah, >> there's Bigfoot sightings in Austin. >> Yeah, there's at least four. One down in >> Are you sure those aren't Memed Mezer with a wig on? >> Yeah. >> Let's see what it says. >> When is that? >> Airman encounters nighttime encounter on Birdstrom Air Force Base >> in 81 Air Force Base.

1:19:16He might be a Yeah, it might be an alien. >> Uh September 2013. Man has afternoon sighting of large bipeedal creature. >> Afternoon sighting. Sitting there drinking moon. Oh, this big hair fell come over to me wants me to suck his dick. I'm like, I'm not going to do it. >> I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. >> 1980.

Bigfoot sightings and solo hiking

1:19:37While two go shoot target practice, two men see upright hair covered figure. >> Homeless guy. >> Yeah, it's a guy. [clears throat] >> A guy with a fur jacket on. >> There was no homeless people in the 80s. Is that what you're saying? >> There's barely anybody here back then. [laughter] >> This is a ghost town.

1:19:53But is so is the um Northwest up in Washington is that much is that more busier? >> Well, there's a lot of bears up there and bears walk upright. >> They do it [clears throat] all the time and I think that's a lot of it. Also, the way it look one of the things that one of the first things that Duncan and I noticed when we went up there is that when you're in the Pacific Northwest, the trees are so dense cuz it rains so much.

1:20:15It's like a box of Q-tips. Like you can't see you can't see through the trees. >> Like there's so many trees. It's like >> and you just sort of see a shadow. >> You see a shadow. You see a thing moving and then in your head your head starts spinning. Like I was in uh Alberta once and for like a second I thought I saw a wolf and it was a squirrel.

1:20:36>> Oh, >> it was a squirrel moving through the woods and I saw the gray and I think it's a [ __ ] squirrel. Like what's wrong with me? But my mind had convinced me for a very short amount of time that it was a wolf. >> Definitely. >> And I was like you silly [ __ ] >> Where was I? Alberta. >> Alberta.

1:20:53Nice. >> Very against again very dense. We did see a wolf up there. I'm pretty sure he was either a wolf or a big coyote, but it was at dusk and it was running across the road. But they have wolves up there. >> Yeah. >> My friends John and Jen, they run a bear hunting operation up there. >> And they send me photos of wolves.

1:21:08They just send me a photo of a wolf uh that were over a trail cam today. >> Wow. That's all that's like kind of all I want to do right now. I'm organizing like a a hike in the thoroughare. Do you know that? in South Yellowstone. It's like >> Oh, you want to go to the woods? >> Uh it's it's not even the woods.

1:21:24It's just like open uh rolling hills in like South Yellowstone near the lake. It's called the Thoroughare. And then you walk to the middle of it. It's 40 mi in any direction from a road. >> And uh it's grizzly country, wolf country, elk, some moose, I believe. >> You want to go in there? >> Yeah, that's all I want to do.

1:21:41>> Why? Why do you want to do that? >> Just cuz I I just started solo hiking and it's like my my favorite thing in the world. So, do you get like a big backpack of food and a tent in it and the whole deal? >> Exactly. And then it's the most I don't I can't even explain it, but it's like a therapeutically you pack up all your [ __ ] You have no distractions.

1:21:59You make your food and then you just all your goal is just march >> by yourself. >> Yeah. And well, you'll meet people, you say hello. I've never done like the thoroughare. I was like that's as wild. But I'm I'm definitely going to do it. >> But you've done the solo camping where you put the backpack on.

1:22:13Yeah. >> How far deep into the mountains did you go? >> Oh, I've never gone too crazy. I've gone like along the Appalachian Trail and things like that. So, you don't see people, >> but the trail is at least is a documented trail. >> It is a documented trail. You'll have you'll have designated campsites and then there's all like beer safety stuff where you're not allowed to cook where you sleep and you have the beer hangs and things like that.

1:22:34>> So, >> yeah, >> I'm excited. You You worried about me? >> I'm a little worried about you. Yeah. Like don't do you bring an inreach or anything? Do you know what that is? >> Yeah, like [clears throat] a satellite. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I gotta buy a garment. >> Yeah. >> Or is that how you say? I'm not going to buy one.

1:22:47Go expensive one. I got to get bear spray, things like that. >> Yeah. >> And then I It seems like people do it all the time. I've watched so many just vlogs of people walking around these areas. And as long as you're not stupid and safe and >> and they get cool videos, they're woken up by the elk [ __ ] bugling in the morning, all this type of stuff.

1:23:04That's all I want to do is just >> I don't have any kids yet, so I'm kind of hoping to get this out of the way before it seems a little too responsible. Irresponsible. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're going to do the solo hike and get eaten by a wolf, do it now. >> But the thoroughare is definitely my my goal.

1:23:19That's what I want to do. It's eight days. You have to pack all your [ __ ] with you and you just head out. You just head out. But something about that when I'm marching on those it's after about 20 minutes I just I don't know. I get into this weird [ __ ] headsp space where I'm just like march march march and that's all I'm thinking.

1:23:35I'm just empty head. >> Yeah. >> I think I got too many [ __ ] thoughts going on in there. >> I think everybody does. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, I also think that there's something about being in the woods that's very therapeutic just naturally because that's our that's our na that's the natural environment where human beings are supposed to be.

1:23:54>> We're supposed to be in nature. We are a part of nature and we're disconnected by nature by being in cities. And I think there's a little bit of anxiety and weirdness that comes with that and that it goes away when you're out in the woods. >> It definitely goes away. And I think the simplicity of life is like your phone, you don't have signal so it doesn't really matter.

1:24:09You have your map out. I'd love to even go a step further and have like a [ __ ] compass on a real map and try to do like orientering style, but I don't I don't really have the >> I have a bunch of friends who do solo hunts where they go in and hunt. >> Yeah, >> solo. >> And where do they do this all over?

1:24:25>> What's that? >> They do this everywhere. >> Well, you know, you have to go to designated areas and you have to go to like places where you can get a tag, but there's a bunch of places where you can get what's called an over- the-counter tag or, you know, you put in for a draw, you know. So what it means is like these uh biologists determine like say if you're deer hunting uh the biologists determine there's x amount of deer in this area and to keep the population healthy you should remove x amount and

1:24:52so they they put out generally uh enough tags to be it's most people aren't successful. So it's like they put out more tags probably than they want animals killed. So they'll give you like five tags. You don't have to get five. >> You most likely you get one. Okay. You would get one tag, but they'd put tags out for, you know, let's say it's so there's the way uh public land works in America.

1:25:16>> There's uh certain areas that are restricted units where it takes a long time to get a tag. Like if you want to get like a Nevada elk tag, very hard to get, you might put in for 20 years and then you get one. So it's a tag of a lifetime. And if you get a like a Nevada elk tag is a big one because they have giant elk in Nevada.

1:25:32It's a very famous place to elk hunt. >> Wow. >> And so people will wait forever. They finally get that tag and then they organize. They get some friends to help them and then they'll go out and they'll, you know, pack in. >> And and these are probably in the kind of mountainous regions of Nevada where where the grass is out.

1:25:50>> Like uh the Apache reservations in Nevada are famous for uh elk hunting >> um because it's like some of the best elk hunting territory in the world. And um the way it works is the nations control it. So um reservations in our country, they're essentially have their own laws and they they're not subject to the laws of the United States government.

1:26:11So they >> even when with animals, even with >> Yeah. with everything. Oh wow. >> Yeah. Well, it's it's crazy like in Canada they alongside everyone else. So in Canada it's called crown land. That's what public land is in Canada. And uh if you're on crown land and you're a whitey like me or you, >> you you know you get a tag for a bear or a tag for an elk or a tag for a moose.

1:26:34They can do whatever they want. The indigenous people, they call them first nation people. When we were up there, we were fishing, right? And when you're fishing, you're allowed to catch one walleye a day. So we're on this dock and we're catching, but we're next to these natives and they're pulling in walley left and right, putting them in buckets.

1:26:50They can catch as many as they want. They can use spotlights at night to shoot moose. [laughter] So they blind us moose to the spotlight and boom, they're shooting them off the top of trucks. They >> And they eat moose. >> Yep. >> Oh, moose are delicious. Moose good. >> I've never seen one. I want to I want to see one so bad.

1:27:05I want to go up to the aderondex and do some canoeing. >> If you see a moose thing about a moose, as opposed to every other deer species, they will [ __ ] kill you. >> They're going to go nuts. >> They'll kill you. They They will stomp you to death. >> I want to see one from afar. I don't want to get stomped to death by a moose.

1:27:18That's a little >> The females with their calves are the most dangerous. They're [ __ ] dangerous. They They're huge. You don't realize how big they are until you're with them. >> You're like, "Oh my god." I only went moose hunting once and that was in BC. And uh it is >> wild when you see one in real life.

1:27:33You can't believe how big they are. They're so big. They're enormous. And they will [ __ ] kill you. Like they'll kill you cuz they have to defend themselves. They're around bears and wolves. They're used to stomping things >> and they weigh 1,800 lb. And they probably they kind of waddle in the water a little, right?

1:27:53So you're >> they go in the water canoe and they'll just [ __ ] >> Well, they won't come after you if you're in a canoe. >> No, >> no, they'll come after you if on the like if you're on the land and they feel like you're too close or you might be a problem. >> Fast, too. Are they? >> Oh, they're faster than they're faster than you and me.

1:28:07That's for [ __ ] They have four legs and big muscles. Yeah, they they'll [ __ ] you up. >> I kind of That's the way I want to go. I want >> stomped by a moose. >> Something. >> Yeah. Getting stumped by a wild animal standing on a snake while you're on a hike or something like that. >> Kind of tragically hilarious.

1:28:21Yeah. >> And everybody makes fun of me on a podcast going [ __ ] [laughter] idiot column >> tried to get a [ __ ] selfie with a moose and he [ __ ] got that antler in the back of the head. >> Have you ever seen that uh Instagram page Turons of Yellowstone? >> No. No. >> Oh, >> it's just fat idiots getting ran over by a bison.

1:28:39Bison's love sending people flying through the >> Yeah, there was a video last year of this old guy, some old geyser and the bison [ __ ] hit him and he [ __ ] he did he did a huge and he he got up, brushed himself off and [ __ ] he was good. >> Wow. >> But it was unlucky cuz they I think the bison chased a car that drove by and then when the car moved away, they were right there.

1:28:59So they they were doing their distance, right? And then [snorts] they were running around a tree like [ __ ] uh three stooges trying to get away and then he just caught one and he went, "Oh god." And it's like a viral photo of him just being thrown huge in the sky. >> There's so many people that want selfies with those animals.

1:29:15>> That was crazy. >> And to this day, people the There's something about I wonder how many people have died from selfies. >> Yeah, it's kind of fine though. It's kind of [laughter] It's kind It's kind of There's a lot of traffic and if you if you're on a cliff getting a selfie and you tumble down, >> right, >> it's kind of okay to me.

1:29:33Or if or if or if a [ __ ] elephant [ __ ] >> It's tragic, but it's it's tragic. It's understandable and especially young people. >> Not all deaths have to be tragic, do they? For [ __ ] sake. >> Well, we're all going to die. And some deaths are learning experiences for the people that survive. >> Yeah.

1:29:48Which happened of Yellowstone. >> It's not happened to me. >> Not yet. >> That's that's the New York mentality. When someone gets pushed in front of a train, we all kind of go, >> wasn't me. >> Well, it happens infrequently enough that you're not nervous about it, but you know it's a possibility. You don't stand right there and like peek out.

Selfie deaths and near-death stories

1:30:06>> I just don't think Yeah, I just don't think that would happen to me. I don't know why. I just have this confident feeling that someone's not going to shove me in front of a [ __ ] train. >> Really? >> Something about I just think of my They They know better. >> They know better. >> They Yeah. >> Well, they probably try to do vulnerable people.

1:30:20>> They little Asian ladies. Yeah, probably. [snorts] That would be the That would be the easiest. >> How many people every year get pushed in front of a train? >> I think one or two. It's like a big news story usually. If even if even that much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But you know, I I've never gone hunting.

1:30:34I'm organizing a hunting trip. My cousin, he's a hunter in Ireland. >> Just started. He's a YouTuber now, actually. He makes these great videos. Known hunting? >> Yeah, he hunts in Ireland. He hunts there in the Sleeve Bloom Mountains. Huge beautiful. Like they're more like Irish mountains or hills, by the way.

1:30:49But like beautiful. So he's a YouTuber now. Kran, if anyone wants to go check out this is uh >> shout out to my little cousin. >> 20 to 25 people are pushed onto the tracks per year. >> Okay. But they're pushed onto the tracks. Yeah, >> that's just the New York subway. >> Yeah, not necessarily people struck or killed by a train.

1:31:06Some victims escape before the train arrives. December 24, Brooklyn case. The victim climbed back onto the platform seconds before an incoming train. [ __ ] >> See, that's what I would do. >> What if you're old and you can't pull yourself up and you realize like you're just going to sit there until that train turns you into a jelly.

1:31:23>> Also, there's a count on selfie deaths. It's a >> Let's guess. Let's guess how many people per year die by selfie. Globally, are we 400? >> I say 2,000. >> Yeah, I think you're right. I [ __ ] up. >> 20,000. >> Let me go again. >> Cuz Okay. [laughter] >> 2010. >> 2010. Okay. You'll say 2010. I'll say 1,700.

1:31:44>> Okay. >> I'll go low. >> Way too way too high. >> Way too high. Really? I mean, this is uh just reported. So, it's 425 deaths linked over 49 countries. I would have to say since 2011 or so. >> But how many of them get reported? That's what I'd say. >> If a guy falls off a mountain, how do you know how he fell off?

1:32:03>> Do you ever Well, you ever see that? Do you ever see that uh the fellow who got caught killing his wife? I think it was India. Maybe I'm wrong, but they were getting photos and he kept go a little further, but he didn't realize people were up when another cliff could see it. And then he ran over to and just shoved her off the [ __ ] thing >> and people were watching.

1:32:17>> People were watching from afar. They saw him [ __ ] shove her. >> He almost got away with it. >> Cuz then he But like then he would have to come down and be like, "Oh, she wanted a photo." Ask her. Look at this. Oscar uh Otto Aguilar died accidentally shooting himself while posing for a selfie with a loaded handgun.

1:32:38>> Yeah, >> a few times more recently. >> That's in Mexico City. Taj Mahal, India. A disputed example. Japanese tourist Hayito Ua was widely reported to have died falling on stairs while taking a selfie at the monument's royal gate. An eyewitness described a selfie related fall, but a police official told AFP the postpartum found a heart attack.

1:32:59Okay. >> Right. But if I fall off a cliff because I'm taking a selfie, it's the [ __ ] head wound that kills me. But the selfie didn't kill me. So that's kind of this. It's the selfie led to the heart attack. No, >> maybe. Maybe >> this is going to evolve into being caught while live streaming. Maybe he had a heart attack when he realized he was falling down the stairs and he's 66 years old and he realized, "Oh my god, I'm going to die."

1:33:24[laughter] So he had a heart attack. >> That's possible, too, cuz you do freak out when you realize like, "Oh my god, I might die." >> And then your heart's like, "Check, please. >> I'm about to die right now." >> Well, that means he's probably on the way to but dying anyway. That's what killed him. Just a little bit of a freak out from falling down a flight of stairs.

1:33:42>> Yeah. >> You know, >> work on your core strength, sir. >> Have you ever thought you were going to die? Have you ever like really were like, "Oh, >> I I was in an accident when I was uh 14. Not an accident with a car. We were uh hanging out in this um it was like this place that had these uh giant sewer pipes, like these huge cement sewer pipes.

1:34:04And there was this crane, this attachment that would lift up the pipes, like it would slide into the pipes and they would put it on a crane to lift them up. And we were [ __ ] around and something happened and we were climbing on this thing and it fell and it hit me on the head. It hit me on the back of the head.

1:34:24I still have a scar on the back of my head and um it hit me so hard that my consciousness grayed out and I survived but I thought I was dying. I was convinced I was dying and I was 14 and I had to go to the hospital. Just blood everywhere. I still have this gas. >> How do they how do they deal with it?

1:34:43back then they just sort of say, "Hey, toughen up." >> Well, they said, "You're okay. You're not dead." >> Yeah, that's how they just in the 80s or whatever. >> I don't even know if I got stitches cuz I have It's a pretty significant scar. It's like right here, right? But >> if I was here instead of here, I'd be dead.

1:35:00>> Yeah. >> So, it grazed my head. It like this thing dinged the back of my head >> and could have easily crushed my skull. I mean, it was this huge metal thing that they used to pick up these uh these huge cement tubes. >> Yeah. >> And uh it it bang my head and I thought I was dead. I did. I thought I thought it was going like it hit me so hard and it was so big and the pain was so extreme and I didn't go unconscious, but I got real close like like like this like >> you're a rock for sure

1:35:31>> like where consciousness like and everything went gray and I was like and I was like, "Oh my god, I'm going to die. I'm going to die." My friends had to take me to the hospital. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It was very scary. I think my friends took me to my parents. My parents took me in the hospital. It's hard to remember it all because it was so traumatic.

1:35:47But I I thought at that moment I was dead. >> Wow. You were like saying goodbye to everybody. >> No. I was just like, ah. I was just terrified like I've never even done anything. Now I'm dead >> for being [ __ ] Yeah. [snorts] >> Being a dumb kid. >> I'm I'm I went to Lao years a I traveled Southeast Asia when I was younger.

1:36:06the Thailand, Vietnam, Lao or Laos as sometimes people call it. But the it's the whole place there is built on like a tubing economy where they just you get in a tube and you float down a river from bar to bar. It's like this cool party. They everywhere you go there's a DJ and each place has like a slide.

1:36:20Each bar has a slide. So you get in this tube at the start of the day where they drive you up to the top of the mountain. You jump in the water, you flow. And then there's these little seven-year-old Thailand boys with a water bottle full of water on a [ __ ] rope and they're swinging it. And there's like six of them and they're like swinging it and they they'll and it'll fly through the sky like [ __ ] arrows from the [ __ ] Indians flying and they'll land boom right in your lap and they'll [ __ ]

1:36:48pull you in and you'd flip them with like a [ __ ] euro or whatever it was that these like kids because that's their job. And I mean they had a [ __ ] accuracy like insane. You want to see talented people like people in Thailand, Lao, Vietnam because they learned just one thing since they're [ __ ] can stand and it was incredible.

1:37:04But I was over it. Anyway, one of these places had this uh cliff you would jump off and then you land on this big inflatable like um cushion. I said massive like 20 ft wide and I jumped on it, fell off it and then whatever happened to someone which is natural in the water and I went down someone else jumped on it and the thing kind of rotated around.

1:37:24So then I came up. I'm just [ __ ] trapped under this whole thing. And then I said, "Fuck." I swam and I tried to swim somewhere else, but it followed me up and then I [ __ ] I hit it again. So I'm just like then I remember I started I started to panic and then I I do remember specifically going relax, don't panic.

1:37:42And I swam down and I just swam and apparently I swam for like [ __ ] so far and then I came up like and everyone was worried about me. Everyone [ __ ] crazy. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah, cuz people died down there. I think they kind of shut that down. That used to be like the coolest. That was like the last fun South Southeast Asia thing where white people could die and it it didn't matter.

1:38:01It just said it didn't matter. It's like, "Yeah, welcome to [ __ ] Vietnam, baby. You're going to die here." But it's so much fun. >> Well, before the internet, people would die and it would only be a local story. >> Great. [laughter] What a nice time to not have to hear about every [ __ ] person that goes through trouble.

1:38:20>> That's true. That's a big problem with society today is that we are inundated by the bad news of the whole world. So 8 billion people worth of bad news. >> And then the visual stuff of the amount of people I've seen die >> Oh. >> is is is crazy. >> Yeah. >> And the amount of things I've experienced through these [ __ ] screens that should not, you know, >> right versus what you've actually seen in real life.

1:38:43>> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's a big It's a big problem. And it's a big problem desensiti desensitizing young people. Like they used to think that like video games desensitized young people and I'm sure they do. I'm sure like being able to shoot a bunch of people in Call of Duty definitely does some kind of >> thing to your brain.

1:38:59It's a unusual thing and people are spl blood splattering all over the place and you're like [ __ ] yeah you're having fun. >> Um but then when you're seeing it live all the time like when I was a kid until Faces of Death came out the V do you know what that is? >> No. VHS tapes that came out in the 19 God I gota was I want to say it's the 1980s they came out and it was a collection of videos of people dying.

Faces of Death and Mount Rushmore

1:39:27One of them was this guy uh they attached him to I think they attached him to cars like they tied his arms and legs and then pulled him apart and uh you you see a bunch of things. The one of them the famous one was Bud Dwire. >> Yeah. >> You know from that song Hey Man nice shot. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> like that guy, he got caught in some corruption thing.

1:39:48I believe it was in Pennsylvania. >> I think it was anyway puts a 44 Magnum in his mouth and just blows his brains out in front of everybody. >> It's funny that whatever that scandal was back then, unpaid [ __ ] parking tickets or some [ __ ] that [laughter] was going to rock his whole life and embarrass the family.

1:40:03It's like nowadays it's like you got to be caught with a child on your [ __ ] lap before you [ __ ] >> admit it or retire or anything like that. There's a meme that I just found the other day. Hold on a second. >> But we we had rotten.com. That was my generation's version. Rotten.com. I remember being like 8 years old and my cousin showing me a photo of a man with his hard dick in a fish's mouth.

1:40:28[laughter] I remember so young. And it would load. So you would just >> And you have to wait and it would load and you go, "Is that a fish? And is that and then it was just [ __ ] in his mouth. hard [ __ ] in this guy's mouth and like what? >> Yeah. And then they show you another suicide guy who just everywhere.

1:40:47[snorts] >> Meanwhile, that's normal now. >> It's so normal. >> Yeah. >> There's like there look there's like there's these like I think society might be better with I got I know it's like freedom versus [ __ ] you know uh the good the good of society but I think having a couple of walls in place for me to see a man with a [ __ ] and a fish would be good for people.

1:41:08Yeah. [sighs] Yeah. >> I think it's just it's a constant battle of like do we have speed and limits? Do we not? You know. >> Well, I think that's more extreme because it's it's shaping your mind. Like you're you're getting access to information that formulates your worldview and that that information is not necessary.

1:41:29>> Like you maybe don't need to see a guy mouth [ __ ] a fish. [laughter] >> You know, mouth [ __ ] a fish is so mild today. >> I I know >> that's what's nuts. like today that's like we've seen so and it's desensitized people to an extreme level like I don't know how much of an effect it's had on how people behave but it has to have a giant it definitely has had an effect on how people communicate online to each other.

1:41:53They're much shittier to each other than they were back then. >> Yeah, I think they kind maybe they realized that you know being online's kind of there's a distance you know so it doesn't feel like you're really being human to that. >> Did you get that meme I sent you? Oh, no. Sorry. I was reading about Bud Dwire.

1:42:09I did stuff. I had never heard >> this Craig he was facing 55 years. And >> for what? >> Big scandal about some he I don't know. >> I could I could see the suicide rather than >> 55 [clears throat] hard years. >> The part that's crazy is he had the speech that no one knew he was going to give and it was like it had gone on for 30 minutes and halfway through it the press was getting ready to leave and he says, "Some of you putting your cameras away.

1:42:33I think you ought to stay cuz we're not finished yet." Wow. >> And that's that's great. >> Well, I was enveloping >> 30 minutes. [snorts] >> Yeah. >> 30 minute speech and then Well, I would have been happy it was over. >> Sure. I I had to shoot it myself. >> What does it say? Uh >> SC go down a little further.

1:42:52Down. Yeah, there we go. Uh Dwire alleged that his legal wos were political persecution due to his refers refusal to grant a travel voucher for Governor Dick Thurber's wife for a trip to Europe, alleging that Thurber said uh that he would get Dwire and that Thurber referred to him as the fat [ __ ] [laughter] Dwire spoke out against the death penalty and expressed regret for voting in favor while he was in the Pennsylvania Assembly.

1:43:24speech lasted for nearly 30 minutes and then he blew his brains out. >> Whoa. >> He faced 55 years and a big fine and like his co-conspirator got one year. >> Oh, someone threw him under the bus. >> Yeah. >> I'm surprised there's not more suicides like that constantly. >> Yeah. >> Like a a big [ __ ] show.

1:43:43I guess that's what a like a a mass shooting suicide thing is. I mean, just a suicide is like >> this is the meme. Politicians 1996. I smoked pot once but I didn't inhale. Politician 2026. [laughter] I [ __ ] a child but I didn't eat it. >> That guy's [ __ ] face. That guy's sweaty face. >> That's so funny.

1:44:07>> You [ __ ] up. >> That's so growing up and people said I never I didn't I smoked but I didn't inhale. As if that was like this weird >> right. And then Obama was like I did coke. I'm like whoa. >> Did he say that? >> Yeah. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. Good for him. >> He definitely said he smoked weed. I mean, there's pictures of him smoking weed.

1:44:23>> Good. >> What were we just talking about just before that? >> Oh, no. Was it the rotten.com stuff? >> I didn't know you guys were getting into the fish. >> No, no, no, no. Just much more recently. I had a >> suicide people doing a f a fun suicide for everyone to see. >> Maybe that's it. I can't remember.

1:44:40>> Big showcase. >> I lost my thought, but I had a thought. >> Are these Are these stars that you have? Because they're shooting by. There we go. >> Sometimes they shoot by. Yeah. Are they Is this like a replica of the of the actual night skies? This is just random. >> You guys, we we me and a few comics last week went out to Big Bend.

1:44:55One of the most fun things we've ever done. >> Uh no, no, sorry. Uh no, Big Ben. >> Here. >> Oh, Big Bend. >> Big Ben National Park. It's South Texas. It's It's like the darkest region of >> Oh, that's the darkest region. >> South one of them. Yeah, down there. So, it's a designated night place, so all the lights go off.

1:45:15But we went out there. Yeah, that's exactly where we stayed at the Chisos Mountains. >> [ __ ] look how beautiful. [ __ ] insane how nice it is out there. And there was tarantulas walking around and [ __ ] cuz it's mating season. They came over. We're climbing on our [ __ ] and stuff. N so cool. It was [ __ ] cool.

1:45:30But I look So we sat out at night, the sunset would go down and we would watch the the the stars come out and we would sit there for seven hours just staring at back, leaning back in our Tommy Bahama chairs. >> Wow. We did a little LSD >> and then just looked at the stars all night. It was one of the most insane things I've ever done.

1:45:50But I've I after that I feel like I' I'd never seen the sky truly until I went out there. >> Right. >> It was unrecognizable there. You you couldn't pick out the Big Dipper or anything like that because there was so many stars. It was a mess. >> Yeah. Ain't it beautiful? >> It was so cool. It was the I I I would recommend everyone alive, head out the big band.

1:46:11Look at the stars. do a little acid if you feel like it. Really think about [ __ ] how insignificant you are. And my buddy Tim Butterly, who's an amazing comedian, he's he's in Austin, from Philly. He's one of the Philly boys. He brought his telescope with him. He has this huge big telescope and we we search we able to see Saturn and you could see Saturn's rings like in detail through the telescope.

1:46:30And it truly was crazy. >> On acid >> on acid looking at Saturn and you're just going, "What the fuck?" >> Yeah. And it's quiet. It's quiet out there because people are camping all around you, but it's quiet. So like you'll hear someone from not far away just in his tent, [laughter] you know, in the middle of the night.

1:46:49Some guy whacking off in the tent. >> Whacking off at a is crazy. You could be out there staring at the stars on acid, but you're like, "No, one more nut. >> I got to get in there." [laughter] >> Think about a girl you dated in high school. >> But we Yeah, but that was that's a cool place to go out there.

1:47:05It's not It's like 8 hours from here. We are denied that image. Cities in as great as they are, they've [ __ ] us and that we we have a disconnect with the universe. Now, you used to be able to every night you would see that in the sky. >> That would be what I would do for entertainment if that was the sky in New Jersey.

1:47:23I would sit out my backyard and I would stare at that [ __ ] all night. >> Yeah. >> And you're and at the at the beginning of the night, Saturn's there. And then you think, I'll watch for another hour and f five hours later, you're just staring as this thing rotates and you can see the Milky Way, which I'd never seen before.

1:47:40>> Yeah. >> There was like little clusters of [ __ ] that I'd never seen before. And you're just >> And the reason why you can't see it is all just light pollution. >> Yeah. >> There was a a time when um [sighs] we went out to the Big Island to uh with my family to the KEK Observatory. And this is I've been there three times, Hawaii.

1:47:59>> Yeah. But I've only seen it really once. And uh the Big Island, you drive, you actually drive through the clouds. Like we as we were driving up to the observatory, we're like, "Ah, [ __ ] It's cloudy out. We're not going to see [ __ ] This sucks. Let's just keep going." But then as you keep going up the mountain, you pop through the clouds.

1:48:14>> Nice. >> And then you get to this observatory and the sky is magnificent. I caught it one night where there was no moon out. And that's what you want. Yeah. You want no moon. And the sky was just littered with stars. >> Crazy. It seemed like we were on an organic spaceship. That's what it seemed like.

1:48:30It did not seem like we were on Earth. It seemed like it was like a convertible spaceship and we're flying through the universe. It was incredible. >> And then you don't realize then you go back to your city stars and you're like, "This is whack. This is not enough. >> It's just not enough. >> A couple little dots.

1:48:44It's not enough. >> It's weird that weird tradeoff, but it's like that weird trade-off has allowed us to do so much, but yet it has disconnected us from just our place in the universe. It's very humbling and I think that humbling thing is very important to people just to put it all into perspective to be able to see the stars and go, "Wow, wow.

1:49:04What the [ __ ] man?" And that's just all you can see. This is just one puny little galaxy. >> Yeah, >> that's hundreds of billions of galaxies in an infinite universe. >> It it can get a little thinking about it can get a little heavy. >> Oh yeah. >> Cuz then you kind of start to go, why do we care about anything?

1:49:23Right. >> You know, >> well, it's supposed to put it into perspective when you're looking at little tiny insignificant things that are freaking you out. >> Yeah. >> You know, little weird things like, "Oh, [ __ ] the guy at work, he's going to [ __ ] me. I'm not going to get that promotion." And you're all like, "Okay, >> this is a bigger picture."

1:49:40There is a way bigger picture than Safeway where I work at or whatever, you know? >> Yeah. Being upset that the Netflix subscription's gone up or whatever, you know, >> whatever it is that's bothering you. >> These goddamn liberals ruining the country. Sure. Exactly. Star. So, we we had a funny moment.

1:49:57We were all lying out at this um just decked out looking at the stars enjoying it. And we're quiet cuz it's late at night. It's 2:00 in the morning and just tents everywhere. It's quiet as [ __ ] And Mike Rainey, who's a comedian, he does Dad Me podcast. He was like, "I'm going to bed, guys. I'm off to bed."

1:50:11He gets into his tent and it's quiet and I'm staring there and you're thinking about like all of the previous humans that have looked at the same stars and that same thing. And in the middle just out of his tent, you just hear out of nowhere just it's fun to stay at the what? And you [laughter] and I mean that echoed through this why and it just echoed through the [ __ ] mountains.

1:50:35He had gotten into bed and whatever way he opened up his phone but there was no signal. One of the last things on his timeline was the [ __ ] YMCA song, which is when you excuse yourself from a bunch of boys, look at the stars, [laughter] and get into a tent. And then the loudest, most embarrassing, gayest song of all time goes bellowing.

1:50:53Like there was people in other tents. We were crying, laughing so hard because we were trying not to laugh but there was other pe we could hear other people's tents start to laugh because we we laughed for 25 minutes crying [laughter] >> and we're like what the [ __ ] Mike and he just he never said anything.

1:51:10He was too embarrassed >> and all Yeah. >> H that's hilarious. >> One of the most fun trips ever. >> That song isn't it weird that that song became a part of Trump's campaign? >> Yeah. >> How odd. Like I went to the inauguration. One of the weird things about the inauguration was that the village people were performing at one of the after parties.

1:51:29What's left of the village people? Yeah. >> Which one? >> I don't know. Whatever ones are left. >> What was he wearing? >> The thing is like you could have a new cop. You could have a new Nobody knows who anybody is. >> There's some purists out there. [laughter] >> There's a couple of >> There's a couple of >> village people in fish.

1:51:45>> You guys, I saw what I Yeah, I saw the village people. The real village people. I saw them at their prime. Yeah. >> Back in the 70s when they were all alive. That's some [ __ ] gay orgy thing going on. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's fun to stay. >> It became the anthem of of It's just a gay anthem, I guess. >> But it also became the anthem of the Trump administration.

1:52:03Like he would go out there and do a little dancing like what? >> Yeah. I don't know. >> Junk man. [laughter] >> It's very weird, right? >> Yeah. But see see his um Nicki Minaj's ass thing going on now. No. >> So Nicki Minaj is like a big Trump girl, >> which is so odd. >> Yeah. What do you think that's all about?

1:52:24>> Needs to sell CDs or something. I don't know. [laughter] Like, I don't get it. Why? Why the [ __ ] would Nicki Minaj Also, I'd be embarrassed to bring her out and go, "Hey, look at this [ __ ] Remember Nicki Minaj who used to rap about having a fat ass 10 years ago? She thinks I'm cool. That's [laughter] like a bizarre [ __ ] >> It's like embarrassing.

1:52:43>> If you're a fan of his, he'll take you in." >> But he brought her out and he's like, "Nicki Minaj is great." She go He goes, "She got a great ass." He goes, "Yeah." He goes, "Can't miss that ass." He goes, "Show them. Show them Nikki." And Nikki got up and did a little Nikki did a little [ __ ] spin for the crowd and all the >> Trump.

1:52:58Trump. >> Oh my god. >> He might be going for a third term with Nikki's ass. [ __ ] vice president. >> Well, there's people that think there's some sort of a loophole, bro. I got a piss. Let's uh let's come back. Come back. Come back. We're back. >> Nice. >> And we're back. Where were we? YMCA. >> Nicki Minaj's ass.

Trump's Bill Maher post and crypto

1:53:17Let me see that. Can we see the video? Pull up Nikki's ass there. >> Did you see the breakup letter he wrote to Bill Maher? >> No, Trump did. Trump pan the letter. >> It's a breakup letter. It's like uh a girl who got dumped like [ __ ] him and he's always a loser and like that kind of thing. It's really crazy.

1:53:35Well, Bill Maher was like anti-Trump and then he [ __ ] had dinner with him and then he's >> a couple times and had dinner with him recently and then went on his show and I guess he said some things about how Trump is losing support in the polls or whatever it was and Trump wrote this long [ __ ] screed, this scroll that he put on Truth Social about uh Bill Maher's a [ __ ] loser and he was like he was drunk at the White House.

1:54:03He needed a drink. It's just he he he is a gift that does not stop giving even if you don't want the gift, you know. >> Well, there's there seems to be two things. This doesn't have her in it, but this is definitely a quote he said about her from there. >> I'm studying him and then I made the mistake I told in fun.

1:54:22I said I looked at his ass and I've never done that with a man before. It's true. Off the record, women Yes. men know. Okay. [laughter]

1:54:42>> By the way, I looked at one hell of a beautiful ass before Nicki Minaj. That [laughter] >> that is so crazy. >> That's hard [laughter] to miss. >> That's stand up. That's hard to miss. >> It's hard to miss. >> Is she showing her ass to everybody? She must be. >> She's twerking or something over there.

1:55:08that anaconda. >> Okay, I'm gonna get back to my story, Nick. I hope Nikki wasn't insulted, but we love Nikki. >> Love Nikki. [laughter] >> So crazy. >> It's crazy that politicians used to be so straight laced or like organized. [laughter] >> She's staring at her. >> Oh yeah, >> she's up there talking >> in her custom [ __ ] Louis Vuitton.

1:55:28[laughter] >> The crazy thing is all politicians swear now. >> Do they? Yeah, they swear. That was unheard of. You never heard a president swear, >> but now they all swear. It's super common. >> I don't like it. I like the idea of having a politician who's [ __ ] >> full of [ __ ] >> Kind of straight.

1:55:47Yeah. >> Full of [ __ ] >> Full of [ __ ] Talk like a real But you kind of like that kind of I I think the guy in charge should be a little bit [ __ ] >> reserved. >> Yeah. I don't want them writing letters to Bill Maher. >> To see the pull up the letter to Bill Maher. It's crazy. >> Yeah. >> Way to read it.

1:56:03[ __ ] >> it's so long. >> The only files released are the letters. [laughter] >> I don't even think what Bill Maher said was that bad. I think the the thing that got him was saying that Trump lost all of his support with the Republican party and then he pulls up. >> He's lost a lot. >> Not according to him.

1:56:24According to him, there's a CNN poll that says like 98% of Republicans. >> That's part of his magic though. >> Yeah, >> you can find a poll. Here it The polls are fake. >> Let's talk about this complete and total loser. All caps, Bill Maher. Let's talk about him. He got a low-rated show on equally lowrated HBO, which was once long ago a network of quality and excitement.

1:56:48But that's all gone. It's not hot all caps anymore. Mars friend and business associate Chuck Leella was also a friend of mine. Worked on the top hit show The Apprentice as a gopher. And because of the success of that show, number one and top rated on many weeks, with the finale being among the top shows of the year, he was automatically and quickly brought up through the ranks of NBC along with everyone else associated with the historic happening in all cap in u quotes rather.

1:57:17I don't know why happening is in quotes. The success of the apprentice was so great that everyone parttook it built many careers and that is a wonderful thing. Some boy this is wordy. Some people say it even built my career because I became president. I would have won without it. Exclamation point. In any event, over the last few years, LeBella would call me non-stop and say hello, be very nice, and tell me how much Bill Maher loves and respects me and would constantly ask of me, even before I was president, for

1:57:46any form of meeting with Maher. And would I do his show? When I became president, I agreed to meet after the first one and the last one, but never agreed to do his show, which he wants me to do desperately. All caps. It won't happen. When I have watched the show, which isn't often, it always ends with dishonesty about me at least.

1:58:06But who cares? He doesn't think it was a good thing to take the nuclear weapon away from Iran, which shows you he's not very smart. [laughter] If I allowed them to obtain a nuclear weapon, the world would be a different place right now. Using fake polls. I like how he like capitalizes fake and polls.

1:58:30>> He also said I had my lowest rating so far. Even the Republican party doesn't like him in quotes, but that's not true. I have high ratings. And more importantly, he said that I'm losing the support and approval of the Republican party when in fact CNN just came out with a poll showing them I am at 98 and 99% rep support within the Republican party and alltime record high all capitalizes all capitalizes the T in time the R and record and the H and high which I don't understand Ronald Reagan

Trump crypto profits and legal questions

1:59:04was at 86%. CNN's Harry Anton also said, "I am the most influential president of the last century." Is this after the Ellison's bought CNN? Uh, >> okay. >> On HBO, which is confusing why he's talking [ __ ] but I >> I mean, this he has a lot of time on his hands. Uh CNN did another poll, the most popular person in the history of the Republican party and I won that too with me being at 53%, Ronald Reagan being at 18% and Abraham Lincoln being at 8%.

1:59:36This is crazy. And these CNN polls, people not exactly in love with me. So Bill Maher lied, but his li but he lies about everything. And I believe he lied to me when I asked him with all the applause and laughter he gets after almost everything he says about things that aren't funny or even good. What laughter machine does he use?

1:59:54Laughter and machine have capital L and a capital M. Uh people can't think he's funny. >> You might be right about that though cuz >> you think there's a laugh track. >> It's not funny. I know that. >> Yeah, but people like love it and they're there live and they get enthusiastic. And if you ever been to a live taping >> Yeah.

2:00:15>> live taping of the show, they have like a person that does this thing. It says applause and they have like a producer with a headset on. It's like applaud appla. Uh, okay. A laughter machine. Um, about things that aren't funny or even good. What laughter machine does he use? I don't know Bill. He didn't know me.

2:00:33And that was okay. I didn't know Bill. He didn't know me. And that was okay. Then Chuck Leella and my friend Kid Rock called me incessantly about meeting with Bill Mar. My first response was, "Fellas, this guy's a goofball." They said he wants to go down to the White House, be with you, and talk. He said, "You're smart, but you're not into the liberal platform.

2:00:52Will you start thinking about it?" He invited himself to the White House. We had our first meeting. Bill was very nervous. He asked for a drink. He was very insecure. And he had a seriously bruised eye and nose area as though somebody had just beaten him up. But it wasn't me. What? No sooner had we had that first dinner at the White House, which was very a very seductive and beautiful place, especially now that I've fully renovated and fixed it in the style which it deserves.

2:01:21>> Thank God >> Bill wanted to come back. >> Uh the gopher called me many times, multiple times, saying how much he loves me and that he respects me more than anybody and he wants to come back for a second meeting. After 10 calls from Chuck Leella, it seemed that these guys were serious and wanted to learn more because their policies are so bad.

2:01:41It's ridiculous. Excl. Also, I wanted to tell Bill that he has that he's a major pthead. All caps. He's got to stop. It's very bad for his health. This [laughter] is a guy spiraling. This is a guy that's eating McDonald's all day. >> He's walking around the room saying this to someone typing it out and he's just looking around.

2:02:01And another thing, >> he looked like hell this time. Bill was drunk and had alcohol in his hand as he walked through the White House. Stephen A. Smith and Kid Rock came along with him. Overall, I thought it was a good meeting. It didn't last four hours. It lasted two hours, maybe less, and everybody was happy.

2:02:16We have the time stamps. I learned nothing and felt it was a waste of time. After the first dinner, Bill Maher was friendly. I guess everyone walked away pleased. He gave me a good first show with a lot of laughing machine laughter and laughing machine and laughing and machine. The L and M are are capitalized which is a real term.

2:02:36Uh [laughter] but it is what it is. And then he reverted back to his former self and his old ways. I understand that he's doing his thing. I never took it personally. I'd always mock his low ratings whenever I heard. He's not a nice guy and what he spouts isn't what he believes. He has to cater to his base, which is mostly composed of losers.

2:02:56There's a capital L in losers and people who don't like working. [laughter] It's why for so long I didn't get another call from Chuck Leella and I didn't miss him one bit. After the second dinner, Bill's show in quotes was far worse than the first. He went crazy. He's gutless because he enjoyed every minute.

2:03:18Also, I am not building a swimming pool in the White House briefing room and never had any intention of doing so. I am thinking about moving the press and putting them in a different location, but I will use that location for very badly needed space. Bill also attacked our great Republican candidates when he knows my endorsement record is 98% in the House and 100% in the Senate.

2:03:38So, how can he make a false statement like this? These statistics are facts, all caps, and he should speak about them. But he won't because he's very unfair. Exclamation point. >> Caroline Levit was great. This is so worthy on the show. But he started a bi but he he started with a biased dumb sleas bag all caps asking questions.

2:03:59She defended me and herself so well but couldn't be comfortable going against lie after lie capital L in lies. Uh, importantly, Bill lied about all the illegal voters in the radical controlled, decrepit, and devastated state of California. Just in the last few days alone, they found 20,000 and the number could easily go to over 1 million.

2:04:23There are so many falsehoods, Bill spewed. But I won't waste time in factchecking all caps him. He isn't worth it. Bill, don't call me anymore. It's useless. and tell Chuck Lebella not to call so much and say how much you love Trump all caps in quotes and want to get together because you're a hopeless guy who is just trying to cater to your small group of fans in quotes.

2:04:48You're also a coward who is afraid to tell the truth about how well our country is running because of your few fans in quotes and how badly the d democrats have done almost destroying the USA. If I hadn't won the election, it would be dead. All caps. Also, turn your laughing machine off. It's a joke.

2:05:09When they laugh uncontrollably, even when you said nothing funny, and I'm going to have have the Republicans not cover you anymore because they try to talk about you as a guy who is transformative. You're not transformative. You're a loser. Capital L and loser. I never watched your show much, but I will never watch it again because it's nothing more than fake news.

2:05:30all caps that America and the world is unfortunately subjected to. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President Donald J. Trump [snorts] has 4.64,000 retruths. >> Nice. >> At the time, I'm sure more now. >> Sure. [snorts] >> Where that like there's got to be just questions about how much time he has >> to write that.

2:05:53There's such a minor thing and everyone just goes, but I think the people around him probably just go, he'll be distracted for a couple of hours. Let him go. Let him work on his little blog. [laughter] >> Let him go work on his little blog and just and we'll try correct the decisions he made earlier today.

2:06:08>> I think he gets very upset when people talk about the polls. >> Do you think the person writing it knows what to capitalize or >> I think he has to go back through and be like capitalize that, capitalize that. >> Capitalize the yell and lies. >> Nope. You didn't get losers right. Capitalize losers.

2:06:25>> Guess at the end. Did I mention the laughter track yet? >> Put fans in quotes. >> Maybe they didn't get >> the laugh machine. >> Yeah. >> I just don't know why. Um I mean that's not something I would ever do. I don't understand. >> He balances his time >> oddly. Yeah. Well, how much he must have a lot of time cuz did hasn't his like net worth like quadrupled in the last two years?

2:06:48>> Well, it's definitely gone up with the coin, right? The Trump coin. But but I think across the board he's his his money's going up. So he must have a lot of time to be president and also become 5x's billions. >> Well, I would imagine he has people doing that too, right? Yeah. >> And that's probably why some of it is >> that's that's the best thing about America is that like a lot of countries would probably have it so that the most powerful man couldn't get become grow that much in wealth.

2:07:14>> Well, it should be the case with the entire government that they shouldn't be able to profit off of it. His net worth has increased an estimated 2.7 billion to 4.1 billion since winning the 2024 presidential election, bringing his total net worth to roughly 6.4 billion. That's a lie. It's more than that.

2:07:32>> See, >> um, see, I don't know what that is. Um, how much of it is stuff that I would disagree with. Right. So, the the the memecoin's crazy. The memecoin, >> it was like a pump and dump essentially, wasn't it? >> Yeah. They all Hunter Biden just did one of those. >> Yeah, >> they all do it. I mean, if you're going to put out a [ __ ] meme coin that I mean, they're almost all pump and dumps and even if they're not like whoever's putting money into it, they're pumping it up and with the idea that it's going

2:08:04to hit a peak and they got to know when to bail. >> Yeah. >> It's like everyone's doing that. It's a Ponzi scheme. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And the president did it and >> it's also I think it's a way to launder money. Um, so like >> is that better? >> So this is one of the things that Hunter Biden was accused of with his his artwork.

2:08:22>> And so he was selling his and I use artwork in quotes like Trump would use it. His artwork was selling for like a half a million dollars for a painting. >> And you look at the painting like what the [ __ ] is that? >> Yeah, >> this is who the [ __ ] is paying a half a million dollars for this? >> If you wanted to give someone money, >> but you couldn't just legally give them money.

2:08:42What you could do was say, "Why don't you draw a picture? Draw me piece of [ __ ] >> I'll buy that picture." And that's all you have to do. >> Yeah. >> And that's the same thing like with a memecoin. So, let's let's say we're going to do a Colin coin, right? >> Let's do it. Let's launch it. Let's do it.

2:08:57We're going to launch it, right? >> That's unofficial, by the way. >> Someone will probably do it. They'll probably do it. There's millions of >> Well, you know, I have to go buy it now. >> Yeah. There you go. Buy column [laughter] coin. So if you wanted to do that, the way those coins work is there's an initial investment that that goes in.

2:09:12So you get a bunch of people that to invest actual real money in this coin, right? And then there's a bunch of people buy into the coin. So they buy the coin. >> Yeah. >> So if you're a person that uh like if I wanted to bribe you, right? And I said, uh, listen, what we're gonna do is we're gonna start this memecoin, and, uh, my country is gonna put in $300 million into this memecoin, and this country is going to put in X, that's going to put, and and then, you know, once it gets to

2:09:40a certain level, we're'll pull out, you going to be worth billions. >> And then you say yes to that. And whether you're Hunter Biden or whether you're Trump or a wide variety of people have done these things. This the Hawka lady did it. Yeah. Right. She had one and I think she she legitimately I think was unsophisticated and didn't really know what was going on.

2:10:00They rug pulled her >> but I think I don't know what I'm just being nice. Um but >> I'm being nice by calling her a stupid idiot. >> Well, a young kid. She's [ __ ] 20 years old. >> I also I think so. I actually agree. >> I would have been completely [ __ ] if that >> she's not around anymore. So that's kind of >> She is around.

2:10:15Is she? >> I thought she I thought she like went back to working in [ __ ] Wendy's or >> Instagram. Yeah, she's still out there. >> She still h she still spitting on that thing? >> I don't know. She don't spit like she used to >> now that she's rich. >> Silk sheets and the whole deal. >> Oh, these [ __ ] get rich and they stop spitting.

2:10:30>> They stop spitting. >> It's a great >> more sophisticated now. >> Big [ __ ] Yeah. >> Yeah. You got caviar in your teeth. [laughter] >> But the point is you could put a bunch of money into a meme coin. That person gets the meme coins and then pulls that money out and then that's legal. You see what I'm saying?

2:10:47>> Yeah. >> And so that's a way to give someone money. >> It's all legal and we all just kind of tolerate it, I guess. >> Well, it's weird. The the whole memecoin market is weird. Like who's who's running out the door to put all their life savings into the Melania coin. >> Yeah. >> It's an odd It's an odd thing.

2:11:05>> The guys who know the sus. >> Yeah. Guys know that like there's a way somebody made money. Some people made money. And clearly he made money. Like what does it say Trump made his money from? >> Cryptocurrency. >> Cryptocurrency. Yeah. >> Nice. >> Fake money. Why can't you >> why can't you be president and and earn $2 billion on the side a little a little passive income?

2:11:28>> Well, the weird thing is the it's legal. This is the thing. So, he's done nothing wrong in terms of the eye of the law. This is the fact [clears throat] he is a businessman. >> In the eye of society, we kind of understand that this is a kind of a conflict of interest, right? >> For sure. Not not something that looks good to the average person that this guy is making billions of dollars from being a the idea the the the what we would hope this is the thing that we the goal that we would strive for is to have

2:11:57someone who's a president and what they really want only is for the good of the American people. >> That person would be shot early on. Sorry, that's not that's not what this is. Sorry. >> They don't want that person to be making billions while they're in office. >> But you also that person will run on honesty.

2:12:12They'll lose an election and then next election they'll they'll lie through their [ __ ] teeth because they go, "I lost it on honesty before. and now I'm corrupt. You'll get voted out if you turn around and go, "Hey, evidence sucks and it's going to suck for a long time." >> Here's an interesting stuff that I just found out here.

2:12:28>> It says, "Trump making money from crypto is not automatically illegal, even while president." Yeah. But [laughter] particular details could be unlawful if they involve bribery or prohibitive benefits from foreign government. >> All right. So kind of he lives in that space though where is it illegal?

2:12:44>> Right. So it's now a concrete legal challenge. October 20. 22nd 2026 federal civil lawsuit alleges that Trump unlawfully benefited from two UAE linked world liberty financial transactions a $500 million purchase a 49% stake by an entity backed by UAE national security adviser Shik Taknun bin Zed al- Nah how do you say that na >> I couldn't uh $2 billion purchase of world liberty USD1 stable coin by an Abu Dhabi investment fund chaired by Takmoon.

2:13:20Uh the transaction amount is not the same as Trump's personal profit. Lawsuit alleges unconstitutional foreign >> emolments >> emulments emoleuments >> amaluments and seeks discourse disclosure rather and return of allegedly unlawful profits. So what is it's unlawful that the Abu Dhabi shake put bought into it?

2:13:51Is that what's unlawful? >> I believe so. Foreign entity. >> You know, I'm just going to stick to stand up >> including main financial conflict provision that means a financial interest that will require an extraordinary executive branch official to step aside does not automatically create the same statutory violation for the president.

2:14:13That exemption is written into law. It isn't unique to Trump, but it's not a blanket exemption from anti-cor corruption law or the constitution. Okay, look at the whole [ __ ] crypto world is weird. They try to get us to do a cryptocoin. They're they contact >> Joecoin >> and what the a JRE coin or something like [ __ ] off.

2:14:32Like what are you talking about? That's not real money. Like what are we doing here? But it's a loophole. >> It's a loophole. And this this is this is the thing. Like if it's legal, like would if you can do it and you're a businessman, your guy would like that's your whole thing. Make make as much money as possible.

2:14:48It's clearly a big part of his whole thing is to make a ton of money and you can make the money and he's like, I'm still doing great for the country. >> Yeah. [clears throat and snorts] >> Get a little for myself on the side. >> Yeah. I don't know. I think we've had our fill of Trump though. That Trump was a lot of fun and now it's kind of just it's my whole time living here has been pretty much just dominated by Trump.

2:15:06And I feel like it's like things need to >> Well, I think >> mix things up a little. >> Things like that letter to Bill Maher are not the best. Like that's that's not a good look. >> One of the worst things he's ever done. [laughter] >> That's the worst thing I've [snorts] I've seen. Yeah. I got out of it though.

2:15:26I got sucked in. remember with the Iran [ __ ] uh war and invasion or whatever way you want to call it and I was like listening to [ __ ] just too much like Fentes and Dave Smith all day and I I just had to kind of just turn my phone off one day [sighs] >> went [ __ ] out into the woods and stuff. >> But then there's two arguments, right?

2:15:42If you turn turn your phone off and don't pay attention, then all the craziness just keeps going on and your life eventually gets affected by it because they start bombing us. >> Sure. >> Like you know that maybe it's better to pay attention and to just keep your eye on whatever the [ __ ] is boiling.

2:15:54Uh, when does bombs dropping? I'll [ __ ] put on a little frantas and find out what's going on. >> Well, a lot of people are worried that after the midterms, so when the midterms are over, that that's when they're going to start doing more [ __ ] in Iran. >> Okay. >> That this isn't done yet. >> Have I drank all that on you?

2:16:11>> No, bro. >> Um, but there's a lot of people that believe that that it's all going to start popping off again in Iran cuz it's like it's not resolved. >> No. >> I mean, they have to have people >> Yeah. a real blunder, a real disaster of the situation. It doesn't look good. It's actually kind of kind of pathetic actually, honestly, on a world scale.

2:16:31Doesn't look good for America to not be able to just wipe out [ __ ] country. >> Well, it's not just that. It just doesn't seem like it was something that was it. Every other president was the attempt to talk them into doing this. >> Yeah. >> They tried to talk Obama into doing it. They tried to talk Biden into doing it.

2:16:49Nobody did it. >> Who's there? Whoever wants us to bomb Iran that might live in Israel. [laughter] >> Not saying anything. It could be it could be them. It could have been the Swedes. It could be anyone. >> Well, it could have been the Russians. >> Yeah. Uhhuh. >> That's a that's a fun one. They always like to blame everything on the Russians.

2:17:06>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, you know, look this the thing that disappoints everybody who supported Trump before he got into office was one of his big things that everybody agreed with was no more war. >> Yeah. >> Like please, that sounds great. no more war. Because we keep thinking like why we involve these unnecessary wars because we always assume there's so much money involved in politics because the military-industrial complex has a huge amount of cash.

2:17:31They influence politicians. They influence policy. They need more war so they could sell more weapons. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's like that's like this is the feeling of exhaustion where it's like I'm going to turn this off. I'm going to go to Alaska. I'm going to see some [ __ ] beers. I'm going I'm doing a weekend of shows in Anchorage and I'm hoping to go to uh Catmy National Park.

2:17:53Do you know it? Where the beers like catch the salmon coming out of [ __ ] >> I'm going in September. So like the it's a little different. But >> is it past the salmon run by then? >> It's over. So they they they go to a different section. They're not jumping out and they're catching them out, but they still catch the salmon at a different section.

2:18:09So I'm hoping to go out there and camp overnight. But they you camp in a in like a fenced off electric uh gate type of thing, but you camp out there. Have you ever been over there to do any of that? >> I've been to Anchorage. Ari and I went over there and we went salmon fishing. Yeah, we went salmon.

2:18:22We we had a two-day thing. Look at that. That's nuts. >> So, I got a I got a trip. I'm doing a bunch of shows. Uh column.com for all my tickets. Oh, check out the special, by the way. Sorry, just to interrupt, but a new special right now on YouTube called Bells and Whistles. Please check it out. Leave a comment if you like.

2:18:36Anyway, back to the grizzly bears. Yeah, this is what I'm going to go do and take photos of beers. Um, but it's like there's a limited amount of spaces. So, they have like cabins, but the cabins are like $700 a night or something. Or you can sit in a tent with the beers for $12 a night. And I go, I'll I'll do that.

Birding, lions, and Irish elk

2:18:56[laughter] >> Well, that's the more authentic experience. You don't want to be behind a door. >> But these beers are so wellfed that they they have no interest in >> Yeah. >> I just watched the thing about the lions in [ __ ] is it Botswana? Do you know the guy on Instagram, Grizzly Guy or Grizzly Guy?

2:19:11And he has this cool He does these shows. I think they're called Endless Venture. Yeah. And he goes all over the world. He just they just did a thing in in um the uh the Tundra up in [ __ ] Alaska where it was like 24-hour sunlight and they went looking for grizzly bears or polar bears. Real fascinating stuff.

2:19:28But they went on a trip to Botswana and the lions there are so wellfed that the lions won't attack you as a human. So, they had this cool Yeah, this guy's [ __ ] awesome. I love this fella. >> Um, >> wow. He's just hanging out with lions. And they'll so they'll sit down and they get into a decent like non-threatening position and they put out like a call like an injured something and then this pack of and you see the lions just slowly spread out and they all follow the main [ __ ] leader and then they he

2:19:58gets right up to them and then they see them and they stare at each other and everyone's quiet and they stare for like five minutes and then the lion goes and just sort of plops down and they're just sitting there surrounded by a pride of [ __ ] lions in the middle of uh this delta whatever it's called the oak or something delta.

2:20:15where like it's one of the wildest that the and they sleep at night. They camp and they have to keep the fire on all night so that elephants don't trample them in the thing. So like someone's job is to wake up every hour to keep the lion the elephants away. That's what I want to do. >> You just hear them in the middle of the night.

2:20:30[groaning] >> Yeah. And you could probably feel them walking around. >> That's a mountain. >> Just showing you got one. >> This is the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, so he's done does a bunch of stuff like this. Yeah. I think he was on my friend Cam Haynes's show. >> He's cool. I want to I'd love I'd love to [ __ ] do something with him someday.

2:20:48This is a like they went out to >> Well, I bet he'll reach out. You can go do something. >> Please reach out and bring me to somewhere really scary. And >> that's really what you like to do, huh? >> That's That's all I want to do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know why. I'm just obsessed with it right now.

2:21:01Getting out there and seeing animals and >> Oh, it's very exciting. >> Yeah. I think I got into it through birds. I got into start getting into birds. Birding. >> Birding. Birding is the most fun thing. >> So, you're one of those guys that buys the binoculars and stares at the trees. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> We always I'm really bad on I get it, too.

2:21:21It's kind of little gay. >> Well, there's two groups of guys who buy high-end binoculars. >> Yeah. >> And the biggest market is actually birders. The second biggest market is hunters. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I there's a lot of kind of similarities between I guess just tracking a bird to shoot it with a camera or and tracking an animal to shoot it with a a gun.

2:21:40There's a lot of knowledge you have to learn the calls, the [ __ ] the wind directions and things like that. I don't think that's as true with birds, but certainly if you want to take a photo of like an animal, you you got to do the same thing. >> Well, just seeing them in their natural habitat is very exciting, especially it's a rare bird.

2:21:59>> The thing about the birds are everywhere. That's why I think most people would rather be into more uh mammals running around, but there's none around. So, but the birds are in your [ __ ] garden. And it's cool to look out and go, I recognize that bird or I recognize a call. >> My friend Tommy has this uh bird feeder and it's hooked up to a camera that has AI.

2:22:19>> Yeah. >> And so the AI camera takes a photo of the birds when they show up and then tells him, sends it to his phone, tells him what kind of bird it is. >> I got them. >> You got that? >> Yeah, of [laughter] course. You kidding me? What? Which ones you got? The problem is you get too many alerts though cuz I get a bing bing bing bing.

2:22:35>> And where do you have your camera set up in New York City? >> Yeah, in in New Jersey at my in-laws house cuz they live out closer to the woods. I set it up there and you and I remember like I remember seeing one day like accidentally a hummingbird landed on the water because a hummingbird shouldn't have been there.

2:22:49But I got it and I was able to write it on my list of all the birds that I've seen. >> Oh, you make a list. >> Yeah, I'm a little [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah. >> Wow. [laughter] But from there that I just wanted to take an interest in what I'm hearing. >> Mhm. >> When I'm sitting around reading a book or whatever, what what is that and why is that and what are they saying?

2:23:05And then once you start to do that, >> I started getting more into animals and now I'm just hiking and camping and [ __ ] >> One of the things you'll see when you go to Alaska is eagles. Those are They're like pigeons up there. It's crazy. They're everywhere. >> Yeah. Yeah. The eagles are [ __ ] cool.

2:23:20We saw some eagles in Montana when we were fishing. Just big [ __ ] guys. >> Wild. >> Yeah. And they just fly around. I got these amazing videos of [ __ ] these huge birds flying around, >> snatching fish right out of the water and flying off of them. >> Yeah, it's like the most enjoyable thing you can ever do is witness that.

2:23:37>> That's so interesting that you're so into nature. >> That's all I want to do is just kind of go turn my phone off and go [ __ ] hiking and maybe if I'm lucky ever see a mountain line somehow. I reckon if you see a mountain line might be too late, but you know, >> I've seen a few. >> You've seen them in California?

2:23:52>> I saw one of them in California. It was in uh Santa Barbara actually. We were in Monaceto and we were driving down the street and I saw this thing running across the road. I said, "Oh, is it a coyote?" And I saw the tail. See that wavy like, "Oh [ __ ] that's a cat." >> And you realize, "Oh my god, it's a mountain line."

2:24:07We just saw a mountain line run across the street in a really nice residential community. Like Monaceto is gorgeous. >> Yeah. >> Like beautiful old homes and mountain lines. I wonder how close they get cuz I was thinking about when we were camping like cuz there's definitely mountain lines in that region of big bands but they >> generally they avoid people >> but I wonder how close like at night when we're seeing like truly I know they avoid them but is it by miles is it you know

2:24:33>> no they don't need to be miles away from you. I mean, you can't they know where you are. >> We heard we heard some noises of something growling out there. When we were watching the sunset, you could hear something animal. It could have been anything, but you just It's late at night and then you just hear kind of a and you're like, "What was that?

2:24:49What could have that been?" >> Yeah. They have a crazy sound that they make. Mountain lions. It's really weird. >> Yeah. >> See if you can find mountain lion cries. It's very strange. Very strange sound. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I I don't even remember. >> Foxes make a weird noise, too. There's an animal.

2:25:04I just saw a I can't remember now, but I just saw a clip of an animal where when they let off a noise at night, it's like sounds like a man in pain screaming. There's like I just saw this like two days ago AND IT'S LITERALLY LIKE and like so it's like it [screaming]

2:25:26>> that's a mountain line. >> It's dark out and you hear that you're like, "Oh my god, we're going to die." >> Yeah. And you're lost cuz you're >> Oh my god. >> You can't figure out how to read the map. >> Your phone died by >> You're almost out of water. >> You promised your wife it's right up here.

2:25:41I swear. [groaning] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> [ __ ] >> Yeah. How would you How could you sleep? I can't. >> Have you ever been hunting? >> No, I've not. While I was saying that, I'm planning a hunting trip to Ireland. My cousin uh he's like a YouTuber now and he he posts these videos. Kronone, if you can give him some support.

2:25:58H but he he hunts deer. Say that in a way that people are going to be able to write it down. >> Cotle, which is spelled C A T H A L. Cotle. Cotle, but the T is silent. >> Okay. >> Cole Rowan. W O W A N. >> So he's got a YouTube channel now and been watching it. But he goes out hunting. But he he he goes out in the morning and he'll have like a big tripod and he [ __ ] sets it up and he's [ __ ] and he's killing these deer.

2:26:27There he is. Yeah, >> there he is. >> You're welcome, you little prick. He's only got 70 725 followers right now. See how many he gets. >> He's doing his That'd be so funny. Now he he has a million by tomorrow and I have nothing. [laughter] >> It'd be so [clears throat] funny. But we're going to go hunting next year cuz So he knows all this [ __ ] about the deer and there he is with my uncle out there.

2:26:47>> I didn't know there was a lot of um >> there's a lot of deer hunting. It's not elk. I know that. >> No, I don't think they have. >> But you know, Ireland had this thing called the Irish elk. It's the biggest >> biggest deer species ever. They were huge. Do you know they found their antlers accidentally?

2:27:00Like people pulled them up when they were fishing? >> No, I didn't. >> Cooked them like like fossilized. They're like bigger than you could ever imagine. Bigger than any moose. Insane. >> Yeah, it was a huge huge animal. >> It's an interesting because a lot of Irish history we I guess like everyone we just don't really know what's going on.

2:27:14Like there's a certain timeline where everything is like >> that's what it looks like. That's an Irish elk skull. Irish >> elk. Crazy. That's found in a lock. >> It's like the biggest kind of deer species animal ever. Is it correct? >> Yeah, it was enormous. But we had beers too that that's crazy. >> We had beers that we killed out before they started documenting anything because they find these beer bones that have been carved up and stuff.

2:27:37So whatever humans were living in Ireland kill these guys off >> maybe naturally from the climate change and two or whatever. But there was definitely >> probably killing them. >> It was it was co we were co living together at the same time and now they're gone. >> We used to have wolves. I think they reintroduced the wolves.

2:27:53We we killed them off and then they brought them back. >> What a good idea. bring them back. >> I guess if there's regions where it's not going to really be too much farmland, I guess a couple of wolves are kind of kind of cool. >> They're a problem. >> Yeah, >> they breed and then they're smart and they figure out what to do.

2:28:08Colorado's the they had the most [ __ ] decision. They brought wolves and they reintroduced them right outside of Aspen. >> Okay. So, >> and they dropped them off. Some of them they dropped off on my friend's ranch. And so [snorts] this ranch is uh he doesn't run any livestock, but he's connected to other ranches that run livestock.

2:28:26And so these wolves are now killing all these cows and yeah, calves. >> That's why we killed them off, I think, in the first place, wasn't it? 100%. It wasn't that they were necessarily killing us. It was that they >> they were killing us, too. >> The wolves were taking us, too. >> Do you know the story from World War I?

2:28:41It's a great story. >> Do not please. >> The the Germans and the Russians had a ceasefire because so many of them were getting killed by wolves. They had a ceasefire where they decided, "We're going to kill the wolves, then we'll go back to killing each other." >> Yeah. Is that true? This is like when they played soccer at [ __ ] New Year on Christmas Eve.

2:28:57>> That's a different one. I think that was [laughter] Wasn't that the British and the Germans? >> Yeah, the British did they apparently on Christmas day, they stopped and had a little kicker bell and then they went back to shooting each other after that. I don't know. I think that's a myth. >> No, it's not a myth.

2:29:07It's real. >> No, the soccer one I'm saying. >> I don't think it's a myth. No, soccer one's real. >> They they stopped and had a little kick around Christmas. Why not? And then apparently the generals and everyone got very angry at them like these are your enemy. Go back to killing them. But I mean like you don't know these [ __ ] people.

2:29:22>> How could you go back to killing someone after they just [ __ ] did scored a great goal or something did something impressive on the on >> just shook your hand and gave you a cigarette. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> They were hanging out together. They they decided to have a ceasefire shirt for skins.

2:29:35Yeah. >> [ __ ] man. >> And there was a referee and stuff and the people [laughter] >> This is the New York Times Associated Press report of it. the when I asked for like the AI stuff, it said it's a potential myth. >> Yeah, it's not. It's real. The the meat eater did a whole piece on it where I brought up the story because someone I forget what historian told me about the story and I was like, is that real?

2:29:58And then I brought it up and then me eater did a whole story on it. Story is widely syndicated in contemporary newspapers. Mainstream historians and archival checks note a lack of official military orders, command logs, cooperating. Go to the mediator story about it because the mediator story was pretty uh well documented.

2:30:14You see it above there? It was there's a link. >> Those guys were >> See where it says mediator? Click on that. Okay. Was there a ceasefire during World War I to hunt wolves? So here it goes in there. There Joe Rogan. Uh multiple New York uh newspapers in 1917 reported the story including the El Paso Herald, Oklahoma City Times, and New York Times.

2:30:35Since then, it's become a favorite bit of barroom banter among amateur historians like the powerful Joe Rogan. Uh 1917, a dispatch from Berlin noted large packs of wolves moving into populated areas of the German Empire from the forest of Lithuania and uh Bohemia. Uh locals hypothesized the war effort displaced the wolves.

2:30:57So, the canine started seeking out new hunting grounds. Hungry wolves infiltrated rural villages, attacking calves, sheep, goats, and in two cases, children. They also showed up at the front lines feeding on the fallen and sometimes taking advantage of incapacitated fighters. So this is what happened.

2:31:15>> So they would they would have some sort of a way to send someone over with a white [ __ ] >> Yeah. So it says as a last resort, the two adversaries with the consent of their commanders entered into negotiations for an armistice and joined forces to overcome the wolf plague. >> Wow. >> Did it say how many?

2:31:32This is according to a 1917 New York Times article. But all to no avail, the wolves nowhere to be found quite so large and powerful as in Russia were desperate in their hunger regardless of danger. So point apparently what one of the things that had happened was they'd sent guys on patrol and they wouldn't find them.

2:31:48They wouldn't come back and then they would go look for them and they'd find like a foot in a boot with their leg had been severed off and eaten and they realized like, "Oh my god, they're getting hunted by wolves." Cuz if you're a small group of people, like two guys, and you go out and there's 50 wolves, like a large pack, they will eat you.

2:32:06>> Yeah. >> I have a friend of mine who was elk hunting, and he shot an elk, and they didn't realize that they shot an elk essentially where the wolves had their dent, and the wolves surrounded them, and they started running in at them, and he killed >> doing their thing where they kind of >> they killed three of them.

2:32:21He killed two of them with a bow and the guy he was with killed one of them with a rifle. And then they backed off. The wolves took off. They realized that something was wrong. Like >> Yeah. They realized they didn't know how this ain't no bison. >> Yeah. >> They also realized like something's happening where arrows are flying at them and killing them.

2:32:35And they watch these guys get killed and they they eventually took off. >> They're super smart. >> But he said we were surrounded. >> My friend John Dudley, he talked about it on the podcast. He's got the wolf skulls in his house. >> Yeah. You ever do you ever see like a video of like a bison gets singled out surrounded by the wolves and they just b they just and he's just he's just spinning and spinning for five eight hours and they the I've seen it with behind the scenes with the documentary

2:33:01like the whole people recording it. They're like all crying because they're literally watching an animal fight for life for eight hours while these packs just bite it and bite and bite it. But there's a reason why all those old nursery rhymes like the big bad wolf like the kids worrying about the big bad wolf dressed up like grandma that that was real.

2:33:19They you had to worry if you sent your children home through the woods they could get eaten by wolves. That was real. I thought it was like a metaphor for pedophiles or something. >> No. Well, that too. I'm sure >> maybe I mis misinterpreted the art. [laughter] >> It's probably that's probably part of it as well.

2:33:34But but a real problem back then was wolves killing people. Can I ask you a question about the bows? What's the furthest you've uh got an animal from when you're hunting >> with a bow and arrow? Yeah. 80 yards. >> 80 yards. So, you you'll go out, you'll have your what? And this will tell you kind of a distance of something.

2:33:55>> I have a rangefinder. So, I have a rangefinder and I lock in on the animal with the rangefinder. It gives you a yardage. And then my bow is specifically calibrated with a sight that moves up the there's a reticle on the site that moves up and down depending on where the distance is. So like say if it's 60 yards, I dial to 60 yards and my sight moves to a very specific position where my pin that's where the arrow will drop.

2:34:24If I shoot straight and I don't move when during the shot, that's where the arrow will be roughly at 60 yards. Yeah. So, but it's always the same release. It's just the dial will tell you go a little higher. >> It's very complicated. You want to go down a rabbit hole of like obsession. Bow hunting is the greatest rabbit hole of obsession I've ever gone down.

2:34:43Oh, I bet you would. >> I could. >> Yeah. You want to see one? >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. >> Um, when you do it, it is one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life. >> Do you remember the first kill you got? >> It's right there. >> That's you? >> Yeah. That uh that's a a mu deer that I shot in um Montana with uh Steve Reanella.

2:35:03>> And how far from that show? >> How far was that? >> That was a rifle. So that was 250 yards, I think it was. >> Um but when you're doing it, um you know, you're looking through a scope and you're shooting with a rifle. That's that's hard to do. But a bow is exponentially harder. It's way harder. It's way harder.

2:35:20You got to get close. Like the 80 yard shot that I had, the only reason why I would have ever taken that shot, that's that's a elk thrust shot. >> Nice. >> That was >> And you don't have any support on that thing. You're holding it with your >> I'm holding it. >> Yeah. >> Because my cousin, he he brings out like a kind of a big tripod that gets the shot for the gun.

2:35:38>> That's different. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you don't do that with the bow. >> No. But I would do that with a rifle. It makes a rifle more accurate. It's smart. Especially if you're shooting at a distance. >> He has a silencer on, too, which weighs a ton. >> Yeah. Well, there silencers aren't that.

2:35:51It's They're not that >> Well, maybe he's a little bit of a [ __ ] about it, but [laughter] >> it's not that heavy. I mean, it's And it's not really a silencer. It's a suppressor. So, it really just takes some of the sound out. You can still hear it. >> Is that So, if you miss, you don't scare everything off or even if you >> No.

2:36:04So, it doesn't blow your eardrums out. [laughter] >> Cuz if you have a like if you have a rifle like one of my rifles is um it's uh it's is a it's got what's called a muzzle break. And a muzzle brake is at the front of the rifle. There's holes in the barrel that allow the gases to disperse. So what that does is it lessens the recoil.

2:36:25So there's less of a kick when the gun goes off. So a very powerful hunting rifle like if you're shooting a moose or something like that, you need a powerful rifle like the kind you want to if you want to kill Charlie Kirk, you got a [laughter] powerful rifle and on the impact there's a lot of movement, right?

2:36:39And if you flinch and if you worried about that recall, you you'll be less accurate. So there's a thing called a muzzle break. The problem with a muzzle break is it makes the rifle shot way louder. And uh I have two friends that have lost hearing because they were close to a rifle when it went off with the muzzle brake on it and they blew their eardrums out.

2:37:02>> A buddy of mine um he's he has [ __ ] hearing aids. Really? Yeah. But the point is that like a a tripod or a shooting sticks, they sit down allows you to have a much better like most guys when they're shooting at real distance. So there's things so there's like say like 50 yards to 100 yards. A lot of guys are comfortable shooting offhand.

2:37:26That means just holding the rifle, wrapping the rifle sling around your arm so you're, you know, tight, pushing it to your chest and then then making sure you're not moving and boom. And you could up to like a 100 yards, you could probably get away with that. But if it's anything more than that, you really want to be stabilized.

2:37:45So you want to be on a tripod or shooting sticks. >> When it's further than like 300 yards, most guys want to be prone. So they want to be laying down. So what they'll do is they'll lay their pack down and they rest the rifle on their pack and they want their whole body to be rested on the ground so there's no movement.

2:38:03And so they're looking through that and all they're moving is their finger. So everything is stable and all they're doing is slowly squeezing. So their rifle is resting on that pack. So there's no nothing that could possibly move it. >> Yeah, it seems >> so with a bow you don't have anything. seems like a lot of like fun or at least a very exciting especially if you can I don't know if if you're >> especially if it's like a thing that's needed for the ecosystem to continue the

2:38:30ecology of a thing. >> It certainly is kind of >> well that's the excuse we're going to use so I can kill an animal [laughter] and pretend I'm helping. >> Well, the thing is if you don't kill them they're going to get killed there. No, no animals live forever and become angels. What happens is they get killed by wolves and usually they get killed in a horror.

Wolves, hunting, and conservation

2:38:47>> But in Ireland we don't have the [ __ ] wolves. They freeze to death or they starve to death. They they run their teeth down and they can't process food anymore >> and you see them and they're they're scrawny and all [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. >> And then um something gets them. You know, it's usually winter.

2:39:01More of more animals die from winter than anything, especially in like the mountains. >> They they'll have strong winter die offs where like in Utah where I was at two years ago, they lost something like 70% of their population of mu deer >> from the winter winter die off. 70% of them froze to death.

2:39:19>> So then the following year they've got less tags to get out. >> Exactly. Exactly. And so in those kind of situations, you know, you don't really need humans to take care of the population. The idea is that humans manage the population in a couple of ways. One, um, you do keep the population in check.

2:39:35If it's an area where there's not a lot of predators, then it's kind of important that humans do it because otherwise they can get disease and there's too many of them, starvation, overpopulation. But the other thing is that the money that goes into um tags and also sporting goods equipment. So when you're buying a tent, if you're buying um a rifle, if you're buying a bow, a certain percentage of that money goes into wildlife conservation.

2:40:01>> So that REI or one of these kind of places, they they have to kind of >> Yeah, it's part of the law. I think it's called uh something Pitman Pitman Roberts Act and look that up. Um, so what that is, I think it's I forget what the percentage is, but that percentage here, uh, Pitman Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act, uh, that was in 1937.

2:40:25US federal law places an excise tax on the sale of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment to fund state level wildlife conservation, habitat restoration, and hunter safety programs. So, it's 11% federal excise tax on sporting firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment, and a 10% tax on handguns.

2:40:44And all that goes to conservation. So, that pays for game wardens. It pays for wildlife biologists. It pays to make sure that the populations are healthy. They do studies on them. >> Yeah. >> Things like collaring wolves and, you know, finding out what their migration patterns are, following >> deer migration patterns.

2:41:01It's also that we keep their populations healthy. It's like the number one contributor in this country to wildlife conservation is hunters. >> Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because they if you the people that don't hunt and don't eat meat or think it's cruel, they would think that there's no way someone who hunts loves animals.

2:41:20There's no way you could. >> Yeah. Exactly. Once you understand the role of it all. Yeah. >> I think it makes it And also I think a lot of hunters who are outside, they're more in tune. I think they're more environmentalist probably than most people who never leave because they have an understanding of leave no trace things like that the importance of it keep keeping these hunting >> places that they hunt keeping them wild keeping them like that >> keeping them pure and it's like the one

2:41:44of the most disappointing things when you go hunting and you find like a water bottle or a beer can you find like a bunch of >> use condom [laughter] >> at least if you're responsible but you find like places >> how many people are wrapping up in the middle of the woods today [laughter] >> when you when you go out to these places, you know, you you want them to be Look, footprints are one thing.

2:42:03That should be it. Footprints maybe like a fire pit that you put out, but that should be it. You shouldn't be leaving your [ __ ] behind. >> Yeah. >> It makes a lot of money every year, but I just noticed this at the end. >> Okay. So, it says uh regular generates between 800 million and $1.2 billion annually.

2:42:22non-hunter contribution, even though it was originally pushed by sportsmen, data now shows that roughly 73 to 74% of the revenue actually generated by non-hunters purchasing firearms and ammunition for recreational shooting, home defense, or collecting. That's just cuz because it's 10% goes to uh handguns and 11% with rifles.

2:42:40Um it's just because more people have those than go hunting. >> But that's also no one's like fighting against that. It's a good It's a good use of tax money. >> It's uh it's very important because if you don't have that, then you just have these wild open lands and you don't have people patrolling them to make sure people aren't poaching.

2:43:02Yeah. >> Cuz that's a real problem. Poaching is a giant problem. It's a giant problem in this country >> where people go into land that's not theirs. They they go on to private land or public land where they don't have a tag and they hunt and you know, >> they're like America's so big. It's like [ __ ] impossible.

2:43:17But your the lands that you have here are probably the best thing about this country. The national parks, the systems that you have. Like I I I never learned about it until I moved here. That wasn't something you thought about. And you just think of America like it's all kind of just fast food and fatties in their car.

2:43:34That's kind of it. Just some fat [ __ ] from [ __ ] Tennessee eating Wendy's. And then you get here and then you hear about these national parks. You're like, "What?" And then you go to them and you're like, "What the fuck?" >> I know it's not. I remember first time going to Zion was just [ __ ] >> Zion's crazy >> crazy.

2:43:50All of Utah is Utah's Utah. I could move there pretty soon. Become a Mormon, have 16 wives. >> Let's go. >> Yeah, why not? That's the American dream I want. >> Yeah, Utah's [ __ ] Utah. >> Beautiful. >> Yeah, the mountains of Utah is one of my favorite places to go. That's the one place I've saw a real mountain lion.

2:44:06I I was with my friend Colton a few years back and we were driving. He's a a hunting guy that I go with every year and we were driving back. Um, so what we do is you drive into the mountains, you park, and then you're walking 8 10 miles a day. You're going through the mountain. You have to be in serious shape.

2:44:24Like I get in shape like I work out specifically for these trips >> cuz how much what's the weight on the back? >> It's not the back. It's just the the real carrying them out is a [ __ ] dude. Cuz then you're you got like uh we carried that elk out >> and I got a bunch of guys to help me. I mean, we didn't even have to go very far.

2:44:42We only went a few hundred yards, but it was like this like like an insane angle with loose dirt. And I had a quarter on my back, a rear hind quarter, which is like 100 pounds. >> Wow. >> And you're going straight uphill. And >> are you like tying that onto a thing? You're tying it on type of thing. >> I have a pack and my pack is specifically gone.

2:45:01I have It's called exo mountain. >> You must when that's all done cuz it's the same feeling as when you go to the gym and you're finished and you feel [ __ ] great or whatever. When you've done hunting, got the deer back, you must feel like that's good. >> It's amazing. >> And then your phone goes pleat.

2:45:17Did you hear about this? And you go, no, I don't want to know about it. I'm killing [ __ ] >> But when you're when you're doing that and you eat it, your connection to that food is so different. Like I made an elk steak uh or an elk roast rather yesterday and uh I was eating it and and I was eating. I was like, I was there.

2:45:37Like I remember when this happened. I remember the arrow flying. I remember the sound when it hit the rib cage. >> I remember quartering it up and carrying it out. I remember I remember all the work. I remember all the hours I practiced shooting my bow. >> Wow. >> Well, you have to practice. >> People get that kind of feel like a little bit of that feeling from [ __ ] growing like herbs in their yard in their yard.

2:45:58And then you feel great when you put a little parsley on something. So if you were to really learn how to bow and track it and learn to [ __ ] how to follow them where they find them, I think it's probably rewarding more rewarding than going to [ __ ] Burger King. This is the problem is people think >> and I love animals and I think I'm an environmentalist and I but like I think people associate hunting with this kind of an anti-environment thing.

2:46:21Whereas the guy eating a Burger King is probably just as like that's maybe arguably you could say that's like less ethical. The way we like farm cows versus actually catching a [ __ ] >> well especially industrial >> agriculture when they when they when do industrial farming of animals is wild. That should be illegal.

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2:46:39They should have never allowed that to happen in the first place when they have these giant warehouses stuffed with pig >> and now we're reliant on it. So you can't you can't get now cities need it. I could be I could be probably persuaded I could have somewhere in there with the right argument I could probably persuaded to kind of like get away from like unethical food.

2:46:59Yeah, I I could I could be convinced to go like vegan, I guess, but probably not. But >> it's not that good for you. It's very difficult to do it right to to be vegan and to get all the essential amino acids and B12 and you have to supplement with a lot of things. Yeah, >> it's very difficult. Great to tell.

2:47:15You get to tell everyone. >> Yes. >> But you do get to tell everyone go sorry make you get to make Christmas difficult for your [ __ ] >> the animals die in making food. Especially monocrop agriculture. You have to kill millions and millions of birds and >> rodents and rabbits and groundhogs. They all have to die.

2:47:36They all have to die. And if you have a large monocrop farm, you're killing a fuckload of animals every year. >> Yeah. >> And forget about the bugs. the amount of bugs you murder. You have to murder so many bugs in order to have a farm. >> What you spraying [ __ ] I thought driving >> pesticides. Uh they get run over by stuff.

2:47:55Combines chew up animals that are there. It's uh there's a lot of death involved in in acquiring food. It's just the difference between the death envir involved in acquiring food. The the feeling that you get from just going to a grocery store and picking up some vegetables. You don't think about it.

2:48:12You think, "Oh, vegetables. No big deal. get some vegetables. A lot of death involved in growing those vegetables. No [ __ ] question about it. Unless you're going to a regenerative organic farm and buying all your vegetables from there. But I think the best way is to grow your own in a garden. The feeling that you get, like we're talking about like parsley and herbs and stuff like that.

2:48:32The feeling that you get when you make a salad from your own garden is [ __ ] amazing. Amazing. It's amazing. You're slicing up your own peppers, >> tomatoes. >> Yeah. All that stuff. putting it in a salad, putting the olive oil and vinegar on it, you're eating it like I freaking grew this >> and then you make it and you also you share that with your family which is the probably the purest thing of life is to eat with your family >> might be >> nothing better than that.

2:48:56Kill killing on stage and then feeding your family tomatoes that you grew in your yard are the two great goals in life. We get to experience a thing that most people will never experience and that is the the feeling that you get from a crowd of people having a great time laughing. >> Yeah. >> That is I can't imagine a life without that.

2:49:17>> Yeah. >> Cuz it's such a high it's such I I have had so many conversations with my friends like imagine going through life and never killing. >> Not once. >> Yeah. >> Never once. Never once you get a standing ovation, everybody's laughing. Thank you very much. Good night. That feeling is We're so lucky.

2:49:33We're so [ __ ] lucky to have that feeling. >> Yeah. >> And the to have it all the time. >> You have it tonight. >> Yeah. Hopefully. Well, here is even even great comics can bomb, right? And then even bad comics can kill. It's sort of just the >> I Yeah. less likely than a great comic. >> Oh, yeah. But especially when you release a special, then you're unarmed and then you have to go on stage with new material.

2:49:59You don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about. You're just trying. And the beginning few sets, they're painful. >> I'm going through some grown. I got this like new bit without giving away about a caveman and his wife having a fight and it crushes so hard for the first little bit and then I kind of get into some deep waters where I don't know where the fight's going and sometimes it works out where they, you know, make sense and then sometimes it just >> But one day it'll work.

2:50:27>> Hopefully >> it'll take forever. Yeah, I mean that's what it is, man. It's like this this long journey of trying to figure out what a bit really is and then there's a real problem with getting trapped in the original structure of it. >> Like sometimes I get accustomed to saying something in a certain way and then I'm like, boy, this is dull.

2:50:43There's something about this I don't like. >> I need to abandon it and redo it from the beginning. I know there's a something in the premise. >> Yeah. >> But it's not. get repetitive to and like I start off that's my biggest problem is I start off loose and then you say it so many times so many nights that suddenly you recite to go now I'm reciting a script and I'm not talking to these people at all >> so sometimes I'll intentionally say something different even if it makes the

2:51:06joke a little worse >> it elevates the experience cuz they know I'm [ __ ] in the room but that's how I tried all my favorite people Patrice and Burr and all these guys they are like that where not every set is the same >> yes you're [ __ ] around with it Yeah. Yeah. >> And it keeps it fresh in your mind.

2:51:20It's still >> real. >> We're blessed with some of the Patrice O'Neal stuff because he has the same jokes in multiple different places, but there it's a different kind of thing each time. It's a different vibe. It's a different way of speaking. >> Yeah. Well, he was very improvisational, very loose, and also wise like he he would do these points.

2:51:38He would make these points. He'd be like, "Oh, yeah." >> Yeah. >> Always. There was so much of his >> he could sell it to you in a dumb way. It might be real stupid. [laughter] Like that bit about him enjoying uh watching uh baseball and then his wife comes over and his girlfriend comes over, sits beside him and go, "What are you doing?"

2:51:55He goes, "Were you watching baseball? Put the Why are the blinds shut?" Like, "Let me put open the blinds. Get the light in here." He was like, "What are you eating? You're eating a burger. You don't want a burger. It's 11:00 a.m. I'm going to make you a sandwich. A dried turkey sandwich." And she's [laughter] like, "Hug me.

2:52:09Kiss me. Kiss me. Mean it. Mean the kiss." Um, yeah, he's got the best bit. He's got the best. >> He was awesome. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I wish I I wish I wish he was around when for just to have seen him once, you know, before he was dead. He was dead by the time I got here. >> Well, he would be the biggest podcaster on earth.

2:52:29>> You think so? >> Yeah. Beige. >> He'd be right up there. He'd be like me and him would be right there together. He might be number one. I might be number two. That would be good for me. >> Yeah. Your rival. >> Take a little No, just take a little weight off me. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't know.

2:52:43Maybe he's a [ __ ] wacky old [ __ ] [ __ ] too. Because a lot of people that that happens. >> You don't You don't know. >> No, no, no, no, no. He was too smart. He wouldn't not been wacky. He would had great takes on things. He was just always He was fantastic on Opie and Anthony. Like that's where I hung out with him the most.

2:52:58Yeah. >> Like doing Opie and Anthony with him. >> Yeah. He He was the best. >> Crusher. Just He's just It was so funny like finding things that you do that are stupid and like rubbing them in your face and you have to lag like No, [laughter] no. That's so true. Yeah, he would have been awesome on podcast cuz it was like designed for that.

2:53:17That's where cuz OP and Anthony was really the first podcast. It was really It was a radio show for sure, but credit to them the way they ran it. They let the comedians run it. It was, you know, Voss and Jimmy Norton and Burr and Ari and all of us. We'd be in there and it would just be like a wild podcast.

2:53:36>> They they let everybody just go nuts. They they didn't have a structure. Like if you do Howard Stern, you have a structure. Howard Stern's not going to let me come on with three of my friends >> and and just talk [ __ ] and smoke weed and and get crazy. With with Howard Stern, you'd go on. So So let me tell you, let me ask you a fear factor.

2:53:50Did you do that? Did you like that show? Did you just do it for money? He would ask it was an interview. >> And that was emailed to you beforehand. These are the questions we're going to ask. >> No, no, no, no. Howard didn't do it that way. But but when you would do Opie and Anthony, you would do it.

2:54:04It was a hang. You just go in and everybody would hang out. And there was always content and it made me realize like, oh, you don't have to have a structure like this conversation. You and I met last night for the first time. We hung out in the green room, had a grand old time >> and then we came here today.

2:54:19We didn't talk about what we're going to talk about. >> We actually didn't talk about a single thing we talked about last night. [laughter] I was coming in here today going, I think I'm going to talk about Ark of the Triumph or what? Not the the Ark of the Covenant, Arc of the Covenant being guarded by some [ __ ] Ethiopians.

2:54:32I was like, that we're definitely talking about that. didn't even come close [laughter] to it. >> But that's the thing about a podcast and that was the thing about Opie and Anthony. It was wide open and I think that was the birth of podcasts. I think that show in particular because of the way they ran it particularly because of Anthony like Anthony Kumia is a very uh he's got a lot of interesting information and knowledge in his head.

2:54:55Yeah. And he always will pull these things out like historical references to things like that. So the way this started and he would explain something you're like whoa that's crazy. like he knows a lot of things and it like contributed to the depth of the conversation and then everybody would be talking [ __ ] about each other but they just let it play out.

2:55:12>> Yeah. If you listen to on Spotify somewhere someone's put all of the Patrice O'Neal it's like a whole like album of just Patrice O'Neal and OA and like sometimes [clears throat] I'd put that on you when I used to drive trucks I'd put that on and it was just there was something about it because it was so it was very slow almost like as in no one was in an any hurry.

2:55:28Sometimes with podcast now we're all like trying to zing zing whatever. They had this kind of a calm thing where going we're here for four [ __ ] hours so let's take our time let's relax >> and they're doing it every day >> and they would talk about one subject for a long time. >> They would stick on it for an hour and a half.

2:55:44>> Yeah. >> I remember before I did it I would listen to it all the time. I'm like these guys are having fun. >> Kumi is doing something with Jim now. >> Yeah. >> They have a podcast. >> Fantastic. They were just uh guests on Kill Tony. >> Nice. >> So the episode's out this week. >> Kill I didn't I saw I did Kill Tony a couple of weeks ago.

Kill Tony and closing remarks

2:55:58I was in town and they just let me go up and do a spot, you know. I didn't have to do a book bucket or anything like that. But, uh, I got more feedback on that show than like pretty much anything I've ever done. Like I had like >> huge >> Yeah. I had like cousins I haven't talked to in years reach out to me and things like that going, "Hey, I saw you on [ __ ] with Gilton."

2:56:12I was like, "Yeah, well, I'm doing stuff all the time actually." But yeah, thanks. You found this. Yeah, it's massive. >> Yeah, I went to the Monday night. Well, I went went to meet Jeremy Clarkson cuz he came to watch the Monday night. >> He was just hanging out and awesome. >> Just hanging out. Hanging out in the green room.

2:56:24He's the best. He's so fun. But Jimmy introduced me to him. Jimmy Carr. So, he was a guest on the panel. >> You know, I heckled Jimmy Carr in a theater before I ever did standup years ago. [ __ ] years ago. I I don't know what got into, you know, he insult. No, he was doing a Q&A at the end of it and this is a big theater in Ireland and he was like, "Anyone have any questions?"

2:56:44And I said, "Can I get a photo with you after the show?" And then he started making fun of my accent going, "I get a photo with you." He goes, "Oh, stolen camera or whatever." And then I said, "Uh, your fat head might not fit in the photo." And then the whole crowd goes and then he he did a little let me just open this can of whoop ass.

2:57:00And I don't even [laughter] I don't even remember what he said to me but he just unleashed all of the and people ARE GRABBING ME GOING STRANGERS. [laughter] You [ __ ] idiot. You [ __ ] >> Did were you thinking about doing comedy before that? >> I think I might have been. Yeah. >> And I definitely started at I met him again years later at another show and I told him the story.

2:57:23But I had definitely I I wanted, you know, I wanted to do comedy when I was like 16 cuz I saw it on TV. I go, this is the coolest thing ever. But I'd only ever seen like specials. That's all I knew was specials. So I was like, I I got to write an hour and then I'll go do a special. That's what I I was 16.

2:57:37I didn't have any idea. So I remember sitting down going, "All right, I'll write it. I'll write a little every night and then after a couple of weeks I'll have an hour and then I'll just go be on TV like these guys." Like [laughter] that's genuinely I had no understanding of what was the in between that.

2:57:51>> That's hilarious. And yeah, so I remember writing a story one night and then the next night I I sat down to write again. I reread the previous night. I was like, "That's not funny at all." And I just said, "All right, I can't do that." And then it wasn't until like [ __ ] you know, six years later, I saw a thing on TV about open mics.

2:58:04I was like, "Oh, I didn't even realize there's like a whole thing in between." Yeah. Process. Yeah. And then that was like years ago. >> Well, listen, brother, you're very funny. >> Really funny. I'm I've enjoyed watching your [ __ ] I'm I'm looking forward to watching you tonight live. >> Yeah. Yeah.

2:58:19The caveman. We'll see if it goes or Let's go. >> This is the new special. >> The special bells and whistles available right now on YouTube. Where'd you film it? >> New York Comedy Club. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Beautiful. >> So, yeah. There we go. >> Beautiful. All right. >> Yeah. Thank you so much, brother.

2:58:31Let's do this again sometime. I loved it. >> All right. Bye, everybody.

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